That is primarily why a live action DB will never fly, it is impossible to do. Either you deviate away and piss people off or stick somewhat close and it becomes bad and turns people off completely (ie hair cuts and transformations etc there is no way these would look remotely good in live action).ekrolo2 wrote:Anime & manga adaptation standards are a bit different since the expecation there is to stick close to the source material which is why I can, up to a point, get why people are annoyed it wasn't just another page for page translation. It's not like with American comics where multiverses and alternate stakes are the norm and I want to wring the neck of every asshole who spews "NOT FAITHFUL TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL!" about anything and everything with their vast knowledge of 5 Batman TAS episodes.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Don't why so many people are surprised by the DN netlfix film. Right from the production I'm pretty sure it was known it wasn't gonna be faithful.
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A primary problem with most manga adaptations is that they aren't really made for films. They're long form stories that are made for serialization and work better in a longer format adaptations because of it. Now, if you had a series of movies you could cover more ground but that'll inevitably cause changes too.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:That is primarily why a live action DB will never fly, it is impossible to do. Either you deviate away and piss people off or stick somewhat close and it becomes bad and turns people off completely (ie hair cuts and transformations etc there is no way these would look remotely good in live action).ekrolo2 wrote:Anime & manga adaptation standards are a bit different since the expecation there is to stick close to the source material which is why I can, up to a point, get why people are annoyed it wasn't just another page for page translation. It's not like with American comics where multiverses and alternate stakes are the norm and I want to wring the neck of every asshole who spews "NOT FAITHFUL TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL!" about anything and everything with their vast knowledge of 5 Batman TAS episodes.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Don't why so many people are surprised by the DN netlfix film. Right from the production I'm pretty sure it was known it wasn't gonna be faithful.
Say we get a DB live action movie series, you cast a young kid as Goku for movie 1, let's say 12-13, by the time the second movie that's supposed to be about the 21st Budokai comes out, he'll be 2-3 years older. Then 2-3 more by the RRA arc which means Goku will be a grown man by the third movie when he's not in the manga. That's not even taking into account that Goku looks like a 10 year old until he's 15 and good fucking luck finding an actor to fit THAT criteria. This all assumes you can even get a movie series to begin with which is a presumption many a franchise has tried to and failed at realizing nowadays.
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I like that the Future Trunks arc had Trunks witness what he missed with seeing Super Saiyan 3 and the potaro fusion and stuff.
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Live action aesthetics aside, I think you can keep the essence of DB and hit many of the beats of DB in a movie. It's just a different form of storytelling. You can't adapt every single thing and every single character but you can get enough of them for it to work story wise.
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Unfortunately, Ocean isn't going to dub Super. God, I'd love to see Scott as Piccolo with better voice direction. Same with Brian Drummond as Vegeta.Pickle_Jar wrote:Piccolo needs to take care of more babies. He's destroying me with cuteness in Super.
Both links go to youtube clips.
Seriously, this is killing me in the best way. I'd love to see how Scott McNeil dubs that. (Sorry, I'm not into Chris Sabat's Piccolo voice...it doesn't work for me.)
Watch for Piccolo's "oh shit!" face, it's hysterical. He's such a mama hen.
What makes that so much sweeter is NONE of that would be happening if Piccolo never took off with Gohan at the beginning of DBZ. He's had character development that is just as profound as Vegeta's.
Now I want to see Piccolo use one of Pan's nasty poo diapers as a weapon in a fight JUST FOR LULZ.
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I remember Super Saiyan Rose got leaked early through a picture of Shikishi Art. Does anyone know when the next Shikishi art set comes out? I'm waiting for one that'll have Goku's new form
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Maybe not Holywood, but I could put faith that the japanese producers would do a good DB Live Action, just look at the Rurouni Kenshin trilogy, it's brilliant done apart from some characterizations.Doctor. wrote:Just watched the new Death Note and now I want a new live action Dragon Ball movie even LESS than before.
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Or be it an abysmal trash like Attack on Titan.Noah wrote:Maybe not Holywood, but I could put faith that the japanese producers would do a good DB Live Action, just look at the Rurouni Kenshin trilogy, it's brilliant done apart from some characterizations.Doctor. wrote:Just watched the new Death Note and now I want a new live action Dragon Ball movie even LESS than before.
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What would be a proper translation of the first sentence or two? Using google translate I'm interested in what they mean by, "Trunks mutated by anger".
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Not all American comics are Marvel and DC. There are many comics in North America that follow one story from start to finish like from Dark Horse, Image, Vertigo, IDW and many others. I had no issue with the casting for the Netflix Death Note movie because I view it in another universe type of movie. We already have movies from Japan of Death Note. Let America do it's own thing.ekrolo2 wrote:Anime & manga adaptation standards are a bit different since the expecation there is to stick close to the source material which is why I can, up to a point, get why people are annoyed it wasn't just another page for page translation. It's not like with American comics where multiverses and alternate stakes are the norm and I want to wring the neck of every asshole who spews "NOT FAITHFUL TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL!" about anything and everything with their vast knowledge of 5 Batman TAS episodes.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Don't why so many people are surprised by the DN netlfix film. Right from the production I'm pretty sure it was known it wasn't gonna be faithful.
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Sorry, I have a bad habbit of just chalking up American comics as just superheroes even though I know it's not the just that. But you're right, Death Note already got a whole set of live action movies so it's REALLY pointless to just get the same thing except made by Americans.Hellspawn28 wrote:Not all American comics are Marvel and DC. There are many comics in North America that follow one story from start to finish like from Dark Horse, Image, Vertigo, IDW and many others. I had no issue with the casting for the Netflix Death Note movie because I view it in another universe type of movie. We already have movies from Japan of Death Note. Let America do it's own thing.ekrolo2 wrote:Anime & manga adaptation standards are a bit different since the expecation there is to stick close to the source material which is why I can, up to a point, get why people are annoyed it wasn't just another page for page translation. It's not like with American comics where multiverses and alternate stakes are the norm and I want to wring the neck of every asshole who spews "NOT FAITHFUL TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL!" about anything and everything with their vast knowledge of 5 Batman TAS episodes.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Don't why so many people are surprised by the DN netlfix film. Right from the production I'm pretty sure it was known it wasn't gonna be faithful.
It would be as pointless as making a straight page for page Watchmen adaptation after we got the live action movie. Well, unless you're one of those people really sore about the squid being omitted.
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Hitorijanaí is the best ending song this franchise ever had.
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You know, watching both one piece and dbs being totally blind is exciting and all. But hell not knowing that there would be no episode this Sunday has killed me.
In super's #107 Frost was finally going to do some shit, Roshi would be in danger and my boy Magetta would be back. And #106 was pretty boring (poor Tien ) so that makes this even more painful.
And god damn i was really looking forward to seeing Luffy eat some crackers and i'm really invested with Sanji's family trauma plot (didn't care that much about him before).
Damn it if i knew about any of this at least two days ago, i would have been prepared for this shit
In super's #107 Frost was finally going to do some shit, Roshi would be in danger and my boy Magetta would be back. And #106 was pretty boring (poor Tien ) so that makes this even more painful.
And god damn i was really looking forward to seeing Luffy eat some crackers and i'm really invested with Sanji's family trauma plot (didn't care that much about him before).
Damn it if i knew about any of this at least two days ago, i would have been prepared for this shit
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Does anybody else laugh to this day when they are re-watching scenes and the match with Monaka and Hit comes up? I don't know why I love it a lot but it never fails to make me smile or chuckle.
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As much as I hate the Watchmen movie, they did a good choice in not using the squid. It would have been too silly.ekrolo2 wrote:Sorry, I have a bad habbit of just chalking up American comics as just superheroes even though I know it's not the just that. But you're right, Death Note already got a whole set of live action movies so it's REALLY pointless to just get the same thing except made by Americans.Hellspawn28 wrote:Not all American comics are Marvel and DC. There are many comics in North America that follow one story from start to finish like from Dark Horse, Image, Vertigo, IDW and many others. I had no issue with the casting for the Netflix Death Note movie because I view it in another universe type of movie. We already have movies from Japan of Death Note. Let America do it's own thing.ekrolo2 wrote: Anime & manga adaptation standards are a bit different since the expecation there is to stick close to the source material which is why I can, up to a point, get why people are annoyed it wasn't just another page for page translation. It's not like with American comics where multiverses and alternate stakes are the norm and I want to wring the neck of every asshole who spews "NOT FAITHFUL TO THE SOURCE MATERIAL!" about anything and everything with their vast knowledge of 5 Batman TAS episodes.
It would be as pointless as making a straight page for page Watchmen adaptation after we got the live action movie. Well, unless you're one of those people really sore about the squid being omitted.
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Discord is a more or less a chat app. Kinda like SkypeNoah wrote:What do you mean?Soppa Saia People wrote:Would anyone here join an Kanzenshuu discord?