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[Bansho64]

Freeza, Cell, and Black with a minor detail changed could have made great heroes. Or at the very least could have been as good as Goku.

What? Literally every single one of these guys have major deep-rooted motivations as to why they're villains. One of them's even biologically engineered to be that way. I don't think it's as simple as how you're making it.

[8000 Saiyan]

Watching the Shin Kikoho scenes in Japanese, I feel that Suzuoki doesn't get enough credit as a great screamer. Does anyone else feel this way?

[Gog]

Freeza, Cell, and Black with a minor detail changed could have made great heroes. Or at the very least could have been as good as Goku.

What? Literally every single one of these guys have major deep-rooted motivations as to why they're villains. One of them's even biologically engineered to be that way. I don't think it's as simple as how you're making it.

It is as simple as I'm making it out to be, Goku was meant to destroy all life on Earth, and bumped his head removing all of his evil traits. The traits that make the villains, villains can easily be changed and could have made them the heroes of the story themselves.

Examples?

Freeza, Cell, and Black with a minor detail changed could have made great heroes. Or at the very least could have been as good as Goku.

That's not an example, that's a restatement. Name a change that you think could make one of these villains a hero.

Sorry about that, anyways Freeza if you removed his blood-lust, and lack of care for life would have been a good hero. Cell, if he didn't literally want to kill everything would have been a good hero, he probably would just save people out of boredom. Goku Black with his smugness would be a fun hero, you'd just need to change the fact that he wants to kill all mortals.

So, erm remove the traits that makes them villains.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Freeza, Cell, and Black with a minor detail changed could have made great heroes. Or at the very least could have been as good as Goku.

That's not an example, that's a restatement. Name a change that you think could make one of these villains a hero.

Sorry about that, anyways Freeza if you removed his blood-lust, and lack of care for life would have been a good hero. Cell, if he didn't literally want to kill everything would have been a good hero, he probably would just save people out of boredom. Goku Black with his smugness would be a fun hero, you'd just need to change the fact that he wants to kill all mortals.

So, erm remove the traits that makes them villains.

I get you, but I think your reasoning is a little flawed. It's a matter of phrasing, you could say the same about any villain, including real-life people. The Borg wouldn't be so bad if they didn't forcefully absorb other cultures. Sauron would be okay if he used his rings of power and immortality to promote world peace. Can I invoke Godwin's Law? Adolf Hitler would be remembered no worse than Napoleon or Alexander the Great if he hadn't been responsible for such a recent, successful genocide.

[Bansho64]

It is as simple as I'm making it out to be, Goku was meant to destroy all life on Earth, and bumped his head removing all of his evil traits. The traits that make the villains, villains can easily be changed and could have made them the heroes of the story themselves.

That's way different to the people you're comparing him too.

Sorry about that, anyways Freeza if you removed his blood-lust, and lack of care for life would have been a good hero. Cell, if he didn't literally want to kill everything would have been a good hero, he probably would just save people out of boredom. Goku Black with his smugness would be a fun hero, you'd just need to change the fact that he wants to kill all mortals.

So, erm remove the traits that makes them villains.

None of those are minor details.

[8000 Saiyan]

Freeza, Cell, and Black with a minor detail changed could have made great heroes. Or at the very least could have been as good as Goku.

What? Literally every single one of these guys have major deep-rooted motivations as to why they're villains. One of them's even biologically engineered to be that way. I don't think it's as simple as how you're making it.

It is as simple as I'm making it out to be, Goku was meant to destroy all life on Earth, and bumped his head removing all of his evil traits. The traits that make the villains, villains can easily be changed and could have made them the heroes of the story themselves.

Freeza, Cell, and Black with a minor detail changed could have made great heroes. Or at the very least could have been as good as Goku.

That's not an example, that's a restatement. Name a change that you think could make one of these villains a hero.

Sorry about that, anyways Freeza if you removed his blood-lust, and lack of care for life would have been a good hero. Cell, if he didn't literally want to kill everything would have been a good hero, he probably would just save people out of boredom. Goku Black with his smugness would be a fun hero, you'd just need to change the fact that he wants to kill all mortals.

So, erm remove the traits that makes them villains.

That applies to all villains. Remove their traits and they're basically good guys.

[TheGodfather93]

Anyone else think it was kinda silly how Spopovich and Yamu jumped Gohan at the Budokai expecting to steal his energy? You't think that with the amount of power he was putting out, he'd be able to vaporise effortlessly. Had it not been for the Kaioshin paralysing Gohan, they would've gotten their asses handed to them.

[jeffbr92]

Lupe Fiasco''s real last name is Jaco. That's pretty cool IMO.

I prefer Lupe Fuentes

[Boo Machine]

Anyone else think it was kinda silly how Spopovich and Yamu jumped Gohan at the Budokai expecting to steal his energy? You't think that with the amount of power he was putting out, he'd be able to vaporise effortlessly. Had it not been for the Kaioshin paralysing Gohan, they would've gotten their asses handed to them.

It's pretty silly, but I don't think those 2 are all that smart. They kind of just saw a lot of energy and jumped on it because they wanted it. I think Babidi expected them to just take the energy from a bunch of humans instead of just one really strong one, if I remember correctly.

[ekrolo2]

Talking about Dragon Ball outside Kanzenshuu is a fantastic motivating factor for building a time machine to stop the whole thing from ever existing.

[ShadowDude112]

You guys ever notice how Gohan could have used Kinto Un to get to Karin's tower in Movie 5 instead of using Haiya Dragon and they wouldn't have gotten caught. Things that make me realize Haiya Dragon is a dumb anime addition.

[TheGodfather93]

Talking about Dragon Ball outside Kanzenshuu is a fantastic motivating factor for building a time machine to stop the whole thing from ever existing.

As long as you stay away from YouTube you should be fine. Don't think there's a single site on the net that is worse when it comes to talking DB.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Could Majin Bu (any form) be killed in one of these scenenarios?:

* Death starvation.
* Death by dehydration.
* Death suffocation.

[Soppa Saia People]

Talking about Dragon Ball outside Kanzenshuu is a fantastic motivating factor for building a time machine to stop the whole thing from ever existing.

As long as you stay away from YouTube you should be fine. Don't think there's a single site on the net that is worse when it comes to talking DB.

YouTube comments are the worst, it's just edgy teenage's, who think their hot shit. Plus don't even look at comments for any music video, it's just full of "this genrations music sucks this is real shit!" gabarge. I honestly hate it more than Reddit, because at least that has some pretty great Subreddits, like Lewronggenration, SRS, and HHH. I don't think I've ever read a YouTube comment section that didn't piss me off

[Noah]

Watching the Shin Kikoho scenes in Japanese, I feel that Suzuoki doesn't get enough credit as a great screamer. Does anyone else feel this way?

I miss Tenshinhan original VA even though I can barely spot the difference between his actual one, I need to rewatch DB/Z again someday

[Zephyr]

After reading his brief backstory again, I've come to realize that I really want a Kakao spinoff/prequel:


[spoiler]

Kakao
A battle cyborg who used to be a lone-wolf space bounty hunter. However, he joined the Tullece Corps to further strengthen his cyborg body. His entire body is covered in a special metal, rendering him impervious to normal attacks. His chest, shoulders, and legs are equipped with high speed rocket burners, allowing him to dodge his opponents’ attacks with super speed.

[/spoiler]
[spoiler]

Kakao used to be a galactic lone-wolf bounty hunter. However, before even that he was originally a Battle Cyborg built on the planet Ikonda to fight in an interstellar war. He volunteered to join Tullece's group in order to strengthen his cyborg body, which is made from a special metal that makes him immune to ordinary attacks.

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A built-for-an-interstellar-war cyborg lone-wolf space bounty hunter with high speed rocket burners on his chest, shoulders, and legs sounds really cool. He could have comedic run-ins with the Galactic Patrol, including Jaco.

[8000 Saiyan]

After reading his brief backstory again, I've come to realize that I really want a Kakao spinoff/prequel:


[spoiler]

Kakao
A battle cyborg who used to be a lone-wolf space bounty hunter. However, he joined the Tullece Corps to further strengthen his cyborg body. His entire body is covered in a special metal, rendering him impervious to normal attacks. His chest, shoulders, and legs are equipped with high speed rocket burners, allowing him to dodge his opponents’ attacks with super speed.

[/spoiler]
[spoiler]

Kakao used to be a galactic lone-wolf bounty hunter. However, before even that he was originally a Battle Cyborg built on the planet Ikonda to fight in an interstellar war. He volunteered to join Tullece's group in order to strengthen his cyborg body, which is made from a special metal that makes him immune to ordinary attacks.

[/spoiler]
A built-for-an-interstellar-war cyborg lone-wolf space bounty hunter with high speed rocket burners on his chest, shoulders, and legs sounds really cool. He could have comedic run-ins with the Galactic Patrol, including Jaco.

I always thought Kakao had one of the most unique designs.

[Gog]

Where was it stated that a Warrior Class Namekian and a Dragon Class Namekian cannot fuse together?

[Ki Breaker]

Where was it stated that a Warrior Class Namekian and a Dragon Class Namekian cannot fuse together?

It wasn't as far as I know

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Where was it stated that a Warrior Class Namekian and a Dragon Class Namekian cannot fuse together?

Nope, but some fans do work under that assumption for some reason. Maybe it is in some untranslated interview or Daizenshuu that I'm not aware of, but it would be my first time hearing about such a thing.