Why Kibito Kai unfusing was best for Super

[mecha3000]

I don't know if many people think about this, but I'm sure on Kanzenshuu's forums - What I'm about to say is common knowledge to fans. But still, I'm going to bring it up anyway. As we all know, Supreme Kai and Kibito are no longer fused together as Kibito Kai. Honestly, I enjoyed Kibito Kai in GT even if his role could easily be seen as the annoying bumbling sidekick to Old Kai. Still, as far as Super's storyline goes - I like that he is unfused.

I'm going to call Supreme Kai "Shin" even though I'm pretty sure this isn't his official name (only the name he used for the tournament even though DB Wiki now states this is his name, which I don't mind because it makes it easier to name him). Shin is a Supreme Kai and Beerus is a Destroyer God (I also like how Funimation calls Beerus a Destroyer God because it fits alongside a title like Supreme Kai more in terms of word numbering - but that's another story). Both characters have attendants in the characters of Kibito and Whis. Having Supreme Kai unfused makes the whole "If one of us dies, the other dies" parallel stronger because we know that both Shin and Beerus have their own attendants instead of Kibito Kai being one entity while Beerus still has his attendant, Whis.

Still, it'd be interesting to see if Super would ever make it to where Supreme Kai remains unfused BUT Beerus and Whis are forced to fuse together like in DB Fusions. It'd be kind of unique to have Beewhis (or whatever his name is) be permanently one character with elements of both Beerus' unhinged nature and Whis' calm/reserved nature.

[precita]

Overall I was indifferent about them defusing at first, but now I admit I like it.

I really do like Shin's design more than the fused form where he's taller and has long hair.

[FortuneSSJ]

I didn't like it at first, because I hate the lack of consequences the Dragon Balls offer to this franchise.
But they made up for it with how well they've using Kaioshin. Now that the Kaioshin and Hakaishin connection became such a central aspect in DBS, I rather this way and I don't want to see Kibitoshin again.

Still, it'd be interesting to see if Super would ever make it to where Supreme Kai remains unfused BUT Beerus and Whis are forced to fuse together like in DB Fusions. It'd be kind of unique to have Beewhis (or whatever his name is) be permanently one character with elements of both Beerus' unhinged nature and Whis' calm/reserved nature.

I love their fusion design in DB Fusions but it's something that never crossed my mind. However, skinny Beerus and fat Champa to fuse and become a muscular cat...Yeah, it did.

[emperior]

Agree with you on everything you wrote but Beerus fusing with Whis. It would ruin two amazing characters. Luckily we know only Kaioshins can permanetly fuse. I swear that potara "retcon" is one if the best thing to ever happen. We finally won't see fans crying "why don't they fuse" anymore, or, at the very least, as much as they used to, considering we also got the "SSB consumes too much of the potara energy" bif

[floofychan333]

I honestly felt kind of crappy when Supreme Kai and Kibito put on the potara earrings without knowing that they would be permanently fused. Seriously, Old Kai really should have told them that so they could have decided to be fused forever.

[lancerman]

Shouldn't old Kai defuse from the witch then? Could be a nice comedy gag. He finally gets his chance have his youth back, but by the time he defuses he is already an old man.

[funrush]

Luckily we know only Kaioshins can permanetly fuse. I swear that potara "retcon" is one if the best thing to ever happen. We finally won't see fans crying "why don't they fuse" anymore, or, at the very least, as much as they used to, considering we also got the "SSB consumes too much of the potara energy" bif

Wouldn't the new potara rules increase the amount of people asking why they don't fuse? If fusion isn't permanent, what prevents them from using it in literally every world threatening situation? I can't think of anything besides pride.

[dbzfan7]

It wasn't best, it made hardly a difference. If they did more with Kibito I'd agree, but really Kibitoshin is just Kaioshin but stronger. Otherwise they could have had Kibitoshin do all of what's happened, and nothing changes. It's an indifferent change.

[ekrolo2]

It wasn't best, it made hardly a difference. If they did more with Kibito I'd agree, but really Kibitoshin is just Kaioshin but stronger. Otherwise they could have had Kibitoshin do all of what's happened, and nothing changes. It's an indifferent change.

If it served as a setup for how they'd defuse Vegetto, that would've been a good piece of foreshadowing but....

[precita]

It wasn't best, it made hardly a difference. If they did more with Kibito I'd agree, but really Kibitoshin is just Kaioshin but stronger. Otherwise they could have had Kibitoshin do all of what's happened, and nothing changes. It's an indifferent change.

Well the change is based mostly on appearance. I like Shin's design more where he's smaller with the mohawk over his fused form where he's huge and has long hair.

It makes Shin look more inexperience and young in his regular form which fits his character better.

[dbzfan7]

It wasn't best, it made hardly a difference. If they did more with Kibito I'd agree, but really Kibitoshin is just Kaioshin but stronger. Otherwise they could have had Kibitoshin do all of what's happened, and nothing changes. It's an indifferent change.

Well the change is based mostly on appearance. I like Shin's design more where he's smaller with the mohawk over his fused form where he's huge and has long hair.

It makes Shin look more inexperience and young in his regular form which fits his character better.

Hey that's cool and all, but I don't think it really adds much or makes much of a difference personally. I'd be inclined to only agree, if Kibito had more of a role. In the manga we see he did something. More of that would justify it.

[TheUltimateNinja]

It wasn't best, it made hardly a difference. If they did more with Kibito I'd agree, but really Kibitoshin is just Kaioshin but stronger. Otherwise they could have had Kibitoshin do all of what's happened, and nothing changes. It's an indifferent change.

If it served as a setup for how they'd defuse Vegetto, that would've been a good piece of foreshadowing but....

At the very least Vegetto's win count is still zero.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

I don't really care. I like their separate designs better, but their defusion doesn't add or subtract anything from the narrative. Quite frankly, I'm confused as to why Toriyama even bothered.

Having Supreme Kai unfused makes the whole "If one of us dies, the other dies" parallel stronger because we know that both Shin and Beerus have their own attendants instead of Kibito Kai being one entity while Beerus still has his attendant, Whis.

How does that follow, exactly? Fused or unfused, Kaioshin has a connection with Beerus. Whether or not both of them have attendants doesn't have anything to do with it.

[Hellspawn28]

I think Toriyama had them defuse for story reasons since he did have the life force of the Kaioshins and the Gods of Destruction together. Not to mention I always found Kibitoshin to be pointless since he is just Kaioshin with a different body.

[Ozotto]

I always thought Kibito Kai was an ugly man child of a fusion.

I preferred their own designs as individuals over their fusion.

Just my opinion on that though.

As it concerns Super... It just looks like their rolling with a tough God crew.
It's more unique and differs from other universes, Elder Kai, Kibito, and Supreme Kai with Beerus and Whis... God Crew checking in.