Could you have tolerated Linda Young in Kai onward?

[8000 Saiyan]

She would have sounded like this, if not slightly better: https://youtu.be/wviMF1sUTco?t=39

A Boo Saga clip? I thought you were going to post this, as that's probably the "best" we'll ever see of Linda Young's Freeza...and even with accurate dialogue, it's still not that good.

...I wonder what Pauline Newstone's Freeza would have been like with an accurate script. Sure, LittleKuriboh and Chris Ayres' portrayals are better, but Newstone's Freeza is pretty good as far as female voices for the character go, better than Young's that's for sure. For one thing Newstone's voice can actually be threatening and scary when she wants it to be. Young...not even close.

Probably even creepier than the Saban dub version.

[Lord Beerus]

No way. Even as the years went by her performance as Freeza never became any less grating.

[TheBigBoy]

I listened to some of her work after not hearing it for years...and my first thought was "Lunchlady Doris." Yeah, not good.

[Danfun64]

Looking at this, there are actually times where Young's performance in the original Season 3 actually sounded better than the remastered dub. It's like the only performance that actually regressed as time went on. Still nowhere near as good as Newstone, let alone Ayres and LittleKuriboh.

[huzaifa_ahmed]

If Young hadn't been recast, I might not have bothered with Kai.

You say that, but it would still be the best dub by far. Would you really pass on it just because one villain, albeit an iconic one, had a voice that didn't perfectly reflect the character? I don't think anyone could honestly say they would, other than people who don't care about dubs at all.

There are literally dozens of anime & game dubs easily better than DB Kai. It's only special in the context of being based on an infamous dub. The main reason people bother with it at all is because the old dub was such a widespread introduction, & the recent dubs allow that nostalgia+accurate story to keep up with the modern anime industry.

A few of the other DB dubs have better casting too actually, or at the very least they're closer to the original audio, which tends to be the MO in casting dubs.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

There are literally dozens of anime & game dubs easily better than DB Kai. It's only special in the context of being based on an infamous dub.

Stop. There's no way you don't know exactly what I meant.

[8000 Saiyan]

If Young hadn't been recast, I might not have bothered with Kai.

You say that, but it would still be the best dub by far. Would you really pass on it just because one villain, albeit an iconic one, had a voice that didn't perfectly reflect the character? I don't think anyone could honestly say they would, other than people who don't care about dubs at all.

There are literally dozens of anime & game dubs easily better than DB Kai. It's only special in the context of being based on an infamous dub. The main reason people bother with it at all is because the old dub was such a widespread introduction, & the recent dubs allow that nostalgia+accurate story to keep up with the modern anime industry.

A few of the other DB dubs have better casting too actually, or at the very least they're closer to the original audio, which tends to be the MO in casting dubs.

Are you trying to imply that as if it were a fact?

[Theophrastus]

Could I have tolerated such a situation? Sure, easily. I never hated her performance. Still very much happy that Chris Ayres ended up with the role, though.

[huzaifa_ahmed]

(So I wanted to post this earlier in my other comment, but my net went out so I couldnt edit it later.)

...Personally, while I think that the recent Freeza is one of the only objectively good castings in FUNi's DB dub, I think that if the idea of having Freeza voiced by a man had never been brought up, we'd have dealt with it all the same, the same way that people are just fine with other castings that stray from the original in DB's case. Rarely do people complain that Piccolo sounds too brutish, Yamcha is too deep & a bit fake-sounding, or Reccoome sounds too dumb. The biggest thing is the script is actually appropriate & doesnt change the tone. There's also the matter of Steve Blum as Orochimaru; it's kind of the same thing? & people tend not to mind too much (personally I think it's just rad).

Ultimately I think most people wouldn't really notice, as they mainly like the Kai dub because they grew up with DB with mostly those voices, but as a rabid enthusiast of dubs, I feel like that'd take away the one really notable & exceptional thing about Kai's dub for me - I didn't really grow up with the DB anime or its dub, so I'm not too attached to their voices, so my experience is probably not normal here.

There are literally dozens of anime & game dubs easily better than DB Kai. It's only special in the context of being based on an infamous dub.

Stop. There's no way you don't know exactly what I meant.

Call it pedantry, sure; however, I feel the attitude of "it's such a good dub" disregards what good dubs actually are. Sure, we can't quite expect DB to have a perfect dub, considering its history, & that's definitely a factor to be taken into account. However, it'd be unfair to give DB that double standard when it comes to the dub. Most people wouldnt be nearly as lenient with other dubs.

Are you trying to imply that as if it were a fact?

Obviously good/bad is subjective; however I've seen enough people that default to DB dubs (yes, Kai included) however arent really interested in dubs in general, to say that. Pretty much any dub that gets a wide exposure is going to be popular - it's usually given a shot at a decent budget & hopefully good quality, but it's not necessary, & while DB Kai's dub is good for what it is, plenty of dubs tried much, much harder in the way of reflecting the source material.

[8000 Saiyan]

(So I wanted to post this earlier in my other comment, but my net went out so I couldnt edit it later.)

...Personally, while I think that the recent Freeza is one of the only objectively good castings in FUNi's DB dub, I think that if the idea of having Freeza voiced by a man had never been brought up, we'd have dealt with it all the same, the same way that people are just fine with other castings that stray from the original in DB's case. Rarely do people complain that Piccolo sounds too brutish, Yamcha is too deep & a bit fake-sounding, orReccoome sounds too dumb. The biggest thing is the script is actually appropriate & doesnt change the tone. There's also the matter of Steve Blum as Orochimaru; it's kind of the same thing? & people tend not to mind too much (personally I think it's just rad).

Ultimately I think most people wouldn't really notice, as they mainly like the Kai dub because they grew up with DB with mostly those voices, but as a rabid enthusiast of dubs, I feel like that'd take away the one really notable & exceptional thing about Kai's dub for me - I didn't really grow up with the DB anime or its dub, so I'm not too attached to their voices, so my experience is probably not normal here.

There are literally dozens of anime & game dubs easily better than DB Kai. It's only special in the context of being based on an infamous dub.

Stop. There's no way you don't know exactly what I meant.

Call it pedantry, sure; however, I feel the attitude of "it's such a good dub" disregards what good dubs actually are. Sure, we can't quite expect DB to have a perfect dub, considering its history, & that's definitely a factor to be taken into account. However, it'd be unfair to give DB that double standard when it comes to the dub. Most people wouldnt be nearly as lenient with other dubs.

Are you trying to imply that as if it were a fact?

Obviously good/bad is subjective; however I've seen enough people that default to DB dubs (yes, Kai included) however arent really interested in dubs in general, to say that. Pretty much any dub that gets a wide exposure is going to be popular - it's usually given a shot at a decent budget & hopefully good quality, but it's not necessary, & while DB Kai's dub is good for what it is, plenty of dubs tried much, much harder in the way of reflecting the source material.

A lot of people hate Recoome's Funimation voice. It's not rare to see hatred for that voice.

Aside from a few script changes, the Kai script is pretty accurate.

[huzaifa_ahmed]

A lot of people hate Recoome's Funimation voice. It's not rare to see hatred for that voice.
Aside from a few script changes, the Kai script is pretty accurate.

I was thinking of the hold-overs in term mistranslations, plus all of the voices they pretty much made up from the picture according to their personal interpretation & direction without any influence from the actual producers. Toei, if they cared, would've reauditioned or recast everyone - that's what they did for both Sailor Moon & One Piece - & IIRC, they did the casting for both of the old bowdlerized dubs themselves as well (only obvious huge issue being direction & censorship).

[8000 Saiyan]

A lot of people hate Recoome's Funimation voice. It's not rare to see hatred for that voice.
Aside from a few script changes, the Kai script is pretty accurate.

I was thinking of the hold-overs in term mistranslations, plus all of the voices they pretty much made up from the picture according to their personal interpretation & direction without any influence from the actual producers. Toei, if they cared, would've reauditioned or recast everyone - that's what they did for both Sailor Moon & One Piece - & IIRC, they did the casting for both of the old bowdlerized dubs themselves as well (only obvious huge issue being direction & censorship).

Since when did Toei cast any of the actors for Sailor Moon's DiC dub? I don't think they cast Tracey Moore, and then decided to replace her with Terri Hawkes, who was replaced with Linda Ballantyne. And if they did the casting for 4Kids' One Piece, then how the hell did we get David Moo for Sanji when he doesn't sound nothing like Hiroaki Hirata? Can you explain that to me? I doubt they wanted the voices to sound like the Japanese ones when we have Sabat as Zoro, and he sounds nothing like Nakai, and Strait as Usopp, who sounds nothing like Yamaguchi. They probably don't care much if the voices don't sound like the Japanese ones.

Well, Funimation was a relatively young company back then. I respect someone wanting every voice to sound like the Japanese version, but that's relatively impossible to happen with every dub they churn out.

[ABED]

plus all of the voices they pretty much made up from the picture according to their personal interpretation & direction without any influence from the actual producers

I think the directors SHOULD cast based on their interpretation of the material and who they think best fits the character.

[floofychan333]

I certainly could have because I've gotten so attached to her Freeza that it would be kind of weird for me to hear a new VA. I'm sure I could get used to Chris Ayres in time, though.

[8000 Saiyan]

I certainly could have because I've gotten so attached to her Freeza that it would be kind of weird for me to hear a new VA. I'm sure I could get used to Chris Ayres in time, though.

You don't like Ayres?

Looking at this, there are actually times where Young's performance in the original Season 3 actually sounded better than the remastered dub.

Yeah, but I don't think that's saying much.

[floofychan333]

I certainly could have because I've gotten so attached to her Freeza that it would be kind of weird for me to hear a new VA. I'm sure I could get used to Chris Ayres in time, though.

You don't like Ayres?

I've just never watched Kai so I've never heard his Freeza.

[TRIZACK]

Looking at this, there are actually times where Young's performance in the original Season 3 actually sounded better than the remastered dub. It's like the only performance that actually regressed as time went on. Still nowhere near as good as Newstone, let alone Ayres and LittleKuriboh.

I thought I was the only one that thought this on her season 3 material. It's still pretty bad and am glad Ayres replaced her.

[DBZAOTA482]

Hell no... her, Tiffany Vollmer, and Stephanie Nadoley are all terrible voice actresses that shouldn't be involved with the franchise majorly at all.

[Cure Dragon 255]

Hey there DBZOTA! I missed you...but how can you post if you are temporarily banned?

[Kokonoe]

I prefer her voice actually, so I wouldn't mind her returning.