What's the retcon here? Could you elaborate?Chuquita wrote: Honorable mention for the Omni twins. Togepi voice is cute, but that's all they have going for them, imo.
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Maybe it isn't a retcon? They didn't exist in Z and now they do.Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:What's the retcon here? Could you elaborate?Chuquita wrote: Honorable mention for the Omni twins. Togepi voice is cute, but that's all they have going for them, imo.
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Vegeta having a brother.
Bardock seemingly being the 1st Ssj or even the legendary one.
Everything about DB minus.
Freeza destroying planet Vegeta on Beerus' order.
Future Trunks' hair and power in the anime.
The Potara fusion having a time limit.
What they're doing with power levels.
Bardock seemingly being the 1st Ssj or even the legendary one.
Everything about DB minus.
Freeza destroying planet Vegeta on Beerus' order.
Future Trunks' hair and power in the anime.
The Potara fusion having a time limit.
What they're doing with power levels.
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Arale got revived, but 16 didn't, how does that work? They are both androids.
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She got rebuilt, or she didn't die when earth exploded and ofcourse there's her being a gag character and allcoola wrote:Arale got revived, but 16 didn't, how does that work? They are both androids.
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It would be Vegeta having a brother but thankfully Super never mentioned it so I don't consider Tarble canonical.
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Freeza knowing that Super Saiyan God exists is probably the one that irritates me the most. I don't see how Freeza wouldn't mention it on Namek at one point or another if he's already aware of it. Particularly as a way to mock Vegeta.
Are you really gonna tell me that after Vegeta's numerous "I'm a Super Saiyan now!" boasts, Freeza wouldn't say something along the lines of "Poor luck Vegeta, perhaps turning into a Super Saiyan GOD will help ellivate the issue?" after he breaks Vegeta's spirit? Or at any other point at all?
Are you really gonna tell me that after Vegeta's numerous "I'm a Super Saiyan now!" boasts, Freeza wouldn't say something along the lines of "Poor luck Vegeta, perhaps turning into a Super Saiyan GOD will help ellivate the issue?" after he breaks Vegeta's spirit? Or at any other point at all?
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This dubious honor is shared among the Legendary Super Saiyan Bardock and Beerus ordering Freeza to destroy Planet Vegeta. The form is non-inconsequential side story but the latter is awkwardly stitched into the lore, making me resent that retcon more.
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When Dende's wish to revive the Earth was made in Buu saga, non-life objects like buildings were brought back, so that would likely include Arale-chan.mute_proxy wrote:She got rebuilt, or she didn't die when earth exploded and ofcourse there's her being a gag character and allcoola wrote:Arale got revived, but 16 didn't, how does that work? They are both androids.
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Almost forgot about the Kaioshins... The idea that there is just one in other Universes is a very ridiculous retcon and shows how lazy they are to draw five Kaioshins for each Universe (it could just be explained that the one attending the Tournament of Power is Dai Kaioshin, but they were referred to as just Kaioshins).
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Beerus ordering freeza to destroy planet vegeta irks me
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These are my top 3:
- DB minus;
- Beerus ordering Freeza to destroy planet Vegeta;
- Future Trunks's blue hair.
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- DB minus;
- Beerus ordering Freeza to destroy planet Vegeta;
- Future Trunks's blue hair.
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Oh, you beat me to itThe gr wrote:Beerus ordering freeza to destroy planet vegeta irks me-future trunks hair,did they really needed to have trunks hair blue in the future gohan flashback
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let me add the tingly back stuffRubens wrote:These are my top 3:
- DB minus;
- Beerus ordering Freeza to destroy planet Vegeta;
- Future Trunks's blue hair.
Edit:Oh, you beat me to itThe gr wrote:Beerus ordering freeza to destroy planet vegeta irks me-future trunks hair,did they really needed to have trunks hair blue in the future gohan flashback
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A poster Toriyama made in 2013 already showed Kid Trunks with a blue hair, also.SonReggie wrote:Future Trunks blue hair. Wouldn't have been a problem in itself if they hadn't show flashbacks..... where he has Blue hair.
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The blue hair isn't a big deal. It's just a design change, nobody in-universe commented on it. It's not like Trunks found blue hair dye in the future and changed his hair color.
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AgreeThe gr wrote:let me add the tingly back stuffRubens wrote:These are my top 3:
- DB minus;
- Beerus ordering Freeza to destroy planet Vegeta;
- Future Trunks's blue hair.
Edit:Oh, you beat me to itThe gr wrote:Beerus ordering freeza to destroy planet vegeta irks me-future trunks hair,did they really needed to have trunks hair blue in the future gohan flashback
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I would agree with you on that except that the series seemed to delight in shoving the contradiction in our faces at every turn by keeping Kid Trunks's hair purple. It honestly wouldn't have bothered me in the slightest if they hadn't done that. Hell, if they had gone the "Trunks found blue hair dye in the future" route, that would have been fine too. But when you have two different versions of the same character who suddenly and magically have different hair color, to the point that characters do reference in dialogue that it's now always been this way, I find it somewhat irksome. I mean, do what you need to do, but stop rubbing my nose in it at every opportunity. It's the same reason why, as much as I enjoy them, I cringe whenever Pilaf and the gang show up, because each time is one more opportunity for them to actually, FINALLY explain why they're there and why they're suddenly kids now, and they just keep failing to do so! Every time they show up it's just this glowing neon sign of a reminder of this big, gaping plot hole that's begging to be filled, that would take a minute and a half to fill. But they just! Won't! Do! It!precita wrote:The blue hair isn't a big deal. It's just a design change, nobody in-universe commented on it. It's not like Trunks found blue hair dye in the future and changed his hair color.
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That's not really a retcon, it's just a fact not revealed before. We never saw hundreds of alien races that still exist before. Most of Freeza's men largely came from planets either already destroyed or annihalated.FoolsGil wrote:28 Species in all of universe 7