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VegettoEX wrote:For what it's worth, this doesn't feel like our translation style (super stilted and broken)
Hahaha, I know what you're saying, Mike, but at first glance, it really reads to me like, "This isn't at all like our translation style. You know, our super stilted and broken style that's really barely legible at all! It's one of our proud traditions here at Kanzenshuu!"
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Gog wrote:The cell saga/android saga is the worst thing Akira Toriyama ever made. And nothing has ever actually managed to come close to it, after it. Even the terrible asspulls in the FT saga, weren't as bad as that. But of course this is all my opinion.
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Marz wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:27 pm
"Well, the chapter was good, the story was good and so were the fights. But a new transformation, in Dragon Ball? And one that's ugly? This is where we draw the line!!! Jump the Shark moment!!"
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90sDBZ wrote: ↑Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:44 pm19 years ago I was rushing home from school to watch DBZ on Cartoon Network, and today I've rushed home from work to watch DBS on Pop. I guess it's true the more things change the more they stay the same.
He said that at first glance, one could interpret that Mike was saying Kanzenshuu's tranlsation style is stilted and broken, when in fact he was saying the opposite.
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In addition to the note that the translation comes from before the DB anime first aired, I think another important factor is that, when it DID first air, the manga was 65 Chapters in (or about 32 episodes worth) and was in the midst of the Red Ribbon Army arc, so I would imagine extensive amounts of filler were mostly a concern for the future if this Dragon Ball thing were to keep going past that arc. For all anyone at the time knew, Toriyama might decide to end Dragon Ball after Red Ribbon and move on to something else, right?
It is very important to place the proper context on interviews, in this case, the interview was before the release of the Dragonball anime and around the Red Ribbon Saga. Toriyama was still 3 years away from starting Dragon ball Z, the part of the story that would truly define the franchise. I'm almost convinced that the series would not have the fanbase it had if it weren't for Z.
The manga might not have been called 'Dragon Ball Z' but official Syndication of the show began just a little over a month later and ran almost concurrently to the manga(probably spanned longer because of the filler) and Z is truly the part of the show that has the fanbase.
Seems to me that when the interview took place, he wasn't too much of a fan of what Toei had shown him in regards to bringing his creation to life.
No one will argue with you that Z was the height of DB's popularity, but without everything that came before it, it's not DBZ. I don't see what that has to do with this interview, though.
I thought it was smart of Toei to bring Pilaf into the story from the beginning, instead of at the tail end of that first arc.
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ABED wrote:No one will argue with you that Z was the height of DB's popularity, but without everything that came before it, it's not DBZ. I don't see what that has to do with this interview, though.
I thought it was smart of Toei to bring Pilaf into the story from the beginning, instead of at the tail end of that first arc.
Just applying the context that the series hadn't yet reached what it would become later. Not even close.
ABED wrote:No one will argue with you that Z was the height of DB's popularity, but without everything that came before it, it's not DBZ. I don't see what that has to do with this interview, though.
I thought it was smart of Toei to bring Pilaf into the story from the beginning, instead of at the tail end of that first arc.
Just applying the context that the series hadn't yet reached what it would become later. Not even close.
I still don't get what you are trying to say regarding the topic.
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ABED wrote:No one will argue with you that Z was the height of DB's popularity, but without everything that came before it, it's not DBZ. I don't see what that has to do with this interview, though.
I thought it was smart of Toei to bring Pilaf into the story from the beginning, instead of at the tail end of that first arc.
Just applying the context that the series hadn't yet reached what it would become later. Not even close.
I still don't get what you are trying to say regarding the topic.
To apply context to the fact that the show hadn't yet reached his peak, so that doesn't mean he hated the aspects of filler that we have all generally come to dislike.
To apply context to the fact that the show hadn't yet reached his peak, so that doesn't mean he hated the aspects of filler that we have all generally come to dislike.
Call me stupid, but I still don't understand the link. What does the show not reaching its peak have to do with his view regarding filler?
The biggest truths aren't original. The truth is ketchup. It's Jim Belushi. Its job isn't to blow our minds. It's to be within reach.
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