Does Gotenks have the most "unique character" of all the canon fusions?
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Does Gotenks have the most "unique character" of all the canon fusions?
I've been thinking about this for a while but Gotenks really does feel like a separate character than Trunks/Goten.
Whereas Vegetto just largely feels like Goku/Vegeta combined, Gogeta barely got any character, and Kefla largely just felt like Caulifa with green hair. Hell even Supreme Kai fused with Kibito was really just Shin's personality and Kibito vanished.
But Gotenks feels the most unique. Him in all the videogames too makes him feel like he's this "new son" of Goku or Vegeta rather than just two characters fused.
Whereas Vegetto just largely feels like Goku/Vegeta combined, Gogeta barely got any character, and Kefla largely just felt like Caulifa with green hair. Hell even Supreme Kai fused with Kibito was really just Shin's personality and Kibito vanished.
But Gotenks feels the most unique. Him in all the videogames too makes him feel like he's this "new son" of Goku or Vegeta rather than just two characters fused.
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Well to me it feels like he's got Goten's playfulness and Trunks' arrogance. He reminds me more of Trunks tho
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Re: Does Gotenks have the most "unique character" of all the canon fusions?
I don't believe so. Gotenks is simply the son of Vegeto/Gogeta.
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Re: Does Gotenks have the most "unique character" of all the canon fusions?
I've yet to come across a fusion character that can spit out exploding ghosts that look like themselves..
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Re: Does Gotenks have the most "unique character" of all the canon fusions?
I think he is, but the only comparison really is Vegetto. Gotenks is much more showy and attempts to make fights "dramatic" and of course has ridiculous moves, but aside from that he and Vegetto felt like they had almost identical character traits, mainly being extremely cocky.
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If Saiyan/Namek Arc Vegeta is considered unique for you, guess Gotenks is
Cuz Gotenks gave = Namek Arc Vegeta vibe/personality
At least Vegito/Gogeta had proper fusion of Goku & Vegeta's personalities
Gotenks was Toriyama's way of substituting Veggie, only playfully
Cuz Gotenks gave = Namek Arc Vegeta vibe/personality
At least Vegito/Gogeta had proper fusion of Goku & Vegeta's personalities
Gotenks was Toriyama's way of substituting Veggie, only playfully
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Unique in terms of abilities mainly. I actually think of the fusions, Vegetto has the most amount of depth to him. Yes, on the surface he's just a cocky showboater, but there's something interesting about the way the fusion of two very flawed, very prideful characters who don't even like fusing can create this perfect warrior who's 100% confident in his abilities. And not arrogant like Vegeta or naive like Goku either; Vegetto really does represent what the two of them would be without any of their flaws.
Which is weird, because every other fusion ends up being a regression of the two halves if anything. One thing people often forget about Gotenks is that Goten and Trunks were actually taking the threat of Majin Buu seriously when they first started training to unlock the fusion dance. They'd lost a bunch of close relatives, they knew the world was counting on them, they argued when Piccolo told them they didn't have what it took. That's what made it so jarring to finally have Gotenks come into being and just be this stereotypical over-the-top brat obsessed with looking cool. It's one of the reasons I couldn't stand that section of the show.
Pretty much the same goes for Kefla, though not to the same absurd degree as Gotenks. If anything, she ended up most like Vegeta, all prideful and smirking when she was winning, but when the tables turned all she could do was flip out and FIRE EVERYTHING. As for Merged Zamasu, well...blobby arm aside, we got exactly what it said on the tin with him.
Which is weird, because every other fusion ends up being a regression of the two halves if anything. One thing people often forget about Gotenks is that Goten and Trunks were actually taking the threat of Majin Buu seriously when they first started training to unlock the fusion dance. They'd lost a bunch of close relatives, they knew the world was counting on them, they argued when Piccolo told them they didn't have what it took. That's what made it so jarring to finally have Gotenks come into being and just be this stereotypical over-the-top brat obsessed with looking cool. It's one of the reasons I couldn't stand that section of the show.
Pretty much the same goes for Kefla, though not to the same absurd degree as Gotenks. If anything, she ended up most like Vegeta, all prideful and smirking when she was winning, but when the tables turned all she could do was flip out and FIRE EVERYTHING. As for Merged Zamasu, well...blobby arm aside, we got exactly what it said on the tin with him.
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To be honest, i truly think that Fused Zamasu felt like the most unique fusion character in the series. Because even though he's the fusion between two Zamases whose personality and motives are actually quite similiar, his techniques were vastly different from any ever seen before. Yes, because i've never seen a Dragon Ball character fight in a stationary position using a Halo-shaped structure that can summon massive ethereal beings and fire lightnings or blade-shaped red Ki attacks. And his design also felt vastly unique, very reminiscent of Final Fantasy actually, which is a beautiful thing of course and sets him apart from any other character in the show. And it was fascinating how, separated, Black and Zamasu had perfect coordination and synergy (being the same person), but fused, Black and Zamasu conflicted, collided with each other, as their bodies had different states. Whereas with all other cases fusing was a good idea, in this particular scenario, fusion hindered the duo. Which is very interesting, because you would usually expect fusion to be a smart and brilliant move. And there was so much symbolism behind Fused Zamasu, the most blatant one of course being his body, that deteroriated into an ugly form as his sanity was slowly decaying.
And, obviously, Fused Zamasu is the first and only villain in the franchise who has been created by the Potara Fusion, so this already makes him one of the most unique and special characters in the entire franchise.
And, obviously, Fused Zamasu is the first and only villain in the franchise who has been created by the Potara Fusion, so this already makes him one of the most unique and special characters in the entire franchise.
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I agree, I was quite shocked when I watched Z Kai's coverage of him and saw how dismissive he was, compared to how Goten was super-concentrated on training after Buu kills his mum. He's practically a Scrappy character, but the story gets away with it because a lot of the time he's bitten in the ass for it, from Buu escaping the Time Chamber to Buu flat-out absorbing them.Kataphrut wrote:Which is weird, because every other fusion ends up being a regression of the two halves if anything. One thing people often forget about Gotenks is that Goten and Trunks were actually taking the threat of Majin Buu seriously when they first started training to unlock the fusion dance. They'd lost a bunch of close relatives, they knew the world was counting on them, they argued when Piccolo told them they didn't have what it took. That's what made it so jarring to finally have Gotenks come into being and just be this stereotypical over-the-top brat obsessed with looking cool. It's one of the reasons I couldn't stand that section of the show.
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Re: Does Gotenks have the most "unique character" of all the canon fusions?
I understand he's probably your favorite character, but man are you wanking him way too hard. Most of his attacks seemed insignificant and while you're right, they do look pulled out of Final Fantasy, they were still uninteresting and felt really out of place considering Zamasu and Black hadn't used anything like that before. The wings and the halo also looked like some kind of asspull design. If they were going for the "holy being from another realm" route I wish they would have explored that better.SupremeKai25 wrote:To be honest, i truly think that Fused Zamasu felt like the most unique fusion character in the series. Because even though he's the fusion between two Zamases whose personality and motives are actually quite similiar, his techniques were vastly different from any ever seen before. Yes, because i've never seen a Dragon Ball character fight in a stationary position using a Halo-shaped structure that can summon massive ethereal beings and fire lightnings or blade-shaped red Ki attacks. And his design also felt vastly unique, very reminiscent of Final Fantasy actually, which is a beautiful thing of course and sets him apart from any other character in the show. And it was fascinating how, separated, Black and Zamasu had perfect coordination and synergy (being the same person), but fused, Black and Zamasu conflicted, collided with each other, as their bodies had different states. Whereas with all other cases fusing was a good idea, in this particular scenario, fusion hindered the duo. Which is very interesting, because you would usually expect fusion to be a smart and brilliant move. And there was so much symbolism behind Fused Zamasu, the most blatant one of course being his body, that deteroriated into an ugly form as his sanity was slowly decaying.
And, obviously, Fused Zamasu is the first and only villain in the franchise who has been created by the Potara Fusion, so this already makes him one of the most unique and special characters in the entire franchise.
Gotenks wins here.
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That's like your opinion. Oh, forgive me if i find a character who represents the archetype of a fallen God, shows unique and special techniques that suit his theme, has a lot of symbolism behind his design, and overall fascinated me, more interesting than a spoiled brat who has the logic and personality of a toaster.supersaiyanZero wrote:I understand he's probably your favorite character, but man are you wanking him way too hard. Most of his attacks seemed insignificant and while you're right, they do look pulled out of Final Fantasy, they were still uninteresting and felt really out of place considering Zamasu and Black hadn't used anything like that before. The wings and the halo also looked like some kind of asspull design. If they were going for the "holy being from another realm" route I wish they would have explored that better.SupremeKai25 wrote:To be honest, i truly think that Fused Zamasu felt like the most unique fusion character in the series. Because even though he's the fusion between two Zamases whose personality and motives are actually quite similiar, his techniques were vastly different from any ever seen before. Yes, because i've never seen a Dragon Ball character fight in a stationary position using a Halo-shaped structure that can summon massive ethereal beings and fire lightnings or blade-shaped red Ki attacks. And his design also felt vastly unique, very reminiscent of Final Fantasy actually, which is a beautiful thing of course and sets him apart from any other character in the show. And it was fascinating how, separated, Black and Zamasu had perfect coordination and synergy (being the same person), but fused, Black and Zamasu conflicted, collided with each other, as their bodies had different states. Whereas with all other cases fusing was a good idea, in this particular scenario, fusion hindered the duo. Which is very interesting, because you would usually expect fusion to be a smart and brilliant move. And there was so much symbolism behind Fused Zamasu, the most blatant one of course being his body, that deteroriated into an ugly form as his sanity was slowly decaying.
And, obviously, Fused Zamasu is the first and only villain in the franchise who has been created by the Potara Fusion, so this already makes him one of the most unique and special characters in the entire franchise.
Gotenks wins here.
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Re: Does Gotenks have the most "unique character" of all the canon fusions?
To me, Gotenks is basically Trunks dialed up to max like Kefla is Caulifla dialed up to max. Very little traits of Goten and Kale, respectively.
I think Vegetto had the most "unique character" because I personally view him as a very good mix of Goku and Vegeta's qualities. But that's just my opinion.
I think Vegetto had the most "unique character" because I personally view him as a very good mix of Goku and Vegeta's qualities. But that's just my opinion.