Question about the Pioneer LaserDisc Ocean Dub Movies 1-3

[SuperCyan2]

I've read that the Ocean Dub audio quality is much better on the LaserDisc ones but is it true and does it completely surpass the DVD versions (R1 Singles + RtD/R4 Madman)? To be honest, I never had any complains about the audio quality but if it's that's much better then I'd love to hear it someday.

If true then it's unfortunate FUNimation didn't use the best audio sources (and video) for the RtD boxset.

[TheMikado]

I was not aware these even existed. I would kill for these.

[Gaffer Tape]

I'm not an expert on these discs or an expert on LaserDiscs in general, so I fully expect someone to come in and rightfully school me. But from what I understand, audiophiles tend to like LaserDiscs because they support uncompressed audio, while DVD audio is compressed. If that is true, then if both releases are working from the same source, the LaserDisc audio would have the edge over the DVD.

[Robo4900]

I'm not an expert on these discs or an expert on LaserDiscs in general, so I fully expect someone to come in and rightfully school me. But from what I understand, audiophiles tend to like LaserDiscs because they support uncompressed audio, while DVD audio is compressed. If that is true, then if both releases are working from the same source, the LaserDisc audio would have the edge over the DVD.

The fact of the matter is DVDs do support uncompressed audio, but usually they don't use it.

I've read that the Ocean Dub audio quality is much better on the LaserDisc ones but is it true and does it completely surpass the DVD versions (R1 Singles + RtD/R4 Madman)? To be honest, I never had any complains about the audio quality but if it's that's much better then I'd love to hear it someday.

If true then it's unfortunate FUNimation didn't use the best audio sources (and video) for the RtD boxset.

The video looks slightly better, as it's the same master as the DVD, just without the DVD compression over it, but you'd need a top of the range player to actually get superior playback.
The audio is technically superior, as it's uncompressed, as opposed to the DVD's 224kbps AC-3 audio, however you'd need top of the range audio equipment to notice any real difference.

[Danfun64]

The main reason it looks better is because of how poorly compressed the Pioneer DVDs were. Laserdisc has a lower resolution that DVD's do, so a well mastered DVD will probably look better than the best LD... Unless we were talking about MUSE LD, but even D-VHS, let along HD DVD and Blu-Ray (and anything 4K and up) could kick the butt of that.

[clutchins]

I have heard a cap of movie 1 from pioneer and the audio compared to the DVD sounds muuuch less compressed. I always heard some sort of compression noise in the lossy soundtrack on the DVD even before hearing the LD, but hearing the LD only confirmed my suspicion. I would very much like to hear the other two captured as well since I don't personally know the guy who did the first one or anything.

[SuperCyan2]

So, I compared Movie 1's LD vs DVD audio quality releases and I'd have to say in my opinion, the DVD version sounds better, cleaner (the voices on the LD sound kinda muffled a bit), louder and with more punch to it. I'm of course no expert on this type of thing but at least I'm able to come to the conclusion the difference in quality isn't that grand between the two and if I dare say, the DVD audio is an improvement over the LD audio.

I've no idea about Movies 2 and 3 but suppose the results would be similar.

[clutchins]

Also would like to point out that the laserdisc audio is lossless PCM whereas the DVD soundtrack is lossy Dolby Digital

[Robo4900]

So, I compared Movie 1's LD vs DVD audio quality releases and I'd have to say in my opinion, the DVD version sounds better, cleaner (the voices on the LD sound kinda muffled a bit), louder and with more punch to it. I'm of course no expert on this type of thing but at least I'm able to come to the conclusion the difference in quality isn't that grand between the two and if I dare say, the DVD audio is an improvement over the LD audio.

I've no idea about Movies 2 and 3 but suppose the results would be similar.

It's probably just your equipment; the LD uses the same master as the DVD, just without the DVD compression, since the LD uses an uncompressed digital audio track, so at the very least, it should sound the same.

[SuperCyan2]

It's probably just your equipment; the LD uses the same master as the DVD, just without the DVD compression, since the LD uses an uncompressed digital audio track, so at the very least, it should sound the same.

Don't think it's anything to do with what's on my end but the DVD version just sounds better to me and I can upload untouched samples of both audios though they are out there, anyway.