sintzu wrote:
That's what they did. Goku and Majin Vegeta's fight mostly happened of page in the manga while the anime showed us an entire fight, one that was anticipated for years. What a disappointment it must've been for manga only readers at the time to see such a bult up fight be pushed to the side.
The same thing happened with Goku's fight against Kid Buu, in the manga it was less than a chapter long while the anime gave it 2 episodes which are among the anime's best choreographed fights.
I remember more
standing around talking than fighting there. Again, it's hardly worth it when most of what's actually taking up the space is just people
reacting to things. By all rights, if Toei had simply bloated that fight as much as any other in the manga, it might have come out as
refreshing for it's pace and brevity without feeling rushed, but this only shows just how
much they've bloated the series do to the fact that that fight is as drawling and dull as most of the Z anime's fights.
ABED wrote:It's not a distraction. It's better just by virtue of not being a lazy deus ex machina. How is it a distraction and what is the plot supposed to be about?
First off, the plot at that point is about
fighting Piccolo. Even if you're planning on pulling the ol "Dragon Ball is about Goku's growth you can't say it's about anything else", it's still kinda bullshit. Dedicating as much time as it does to what's basically just Goku
walking to an instant boost rather than how he becomes stronger through it or what he does with that strength, when it's a nonsensical powerup like this, is just meaningless time-killing in a series that, even as a manga, takes a lot to finish off it's villains.
Second, the ultra divine water is going to be a deus ex machina no matter
what, because it's literally just something Goku drinks and then it makes him stronger. No training or grand understanding of one's opponent is needed because it's literally just whether he's strong enough to not die, which we all know he's going to be because he's god damned Goku and the villain's still around. Korin magically had (or remembered he had) it, and that's dumb and not good storytelling, but is him remembering it
exists and then sending Goku and Yajirobe on an episode-and-a-half fetch quest for it really any less of an asspull just cause it takes longer to get there?
Third, all that aside, what do we even have instead in the anime? Some bumbling around a frozen land, a trippy scene of Goku aruging with fake people and a weird demon, and then the exact same outcome for drinking the water as in the manga. No lessons learned, no new revelations about the characters or world, it's not even really fun to watch. So why even bother?
why ?
