How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

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How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

Post by Kefla » Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:49 pm

How much stronger would it be than Super Saiyan 4? Would it be able to compare to Super Saiyan Blue and Ultra Instinct in terms of power and performance?

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Re: How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

Post by Vijay » Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:52 am

Isnt SSJ4 Gogeta in GT is somewhat SSJ5 in terms of strength?

I know dat'll be sayin Super Vegito in Z to be successor to SSJ3 while it was in fact just fused SSJ

Goin by AF SSJ5 Goku fan pics, I always thought duds could wipe out DragonBall World with an amped finisher. It can be Kamehameha or Final Flash. Its dats much of a behemoth

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Re: How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

Post by RedShift » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:44 am

As powerful as the next villain (read: plot) required it to be in order to confront the next major villain on equal terms.

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Re: How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

Post by sunsetshimmer » Mon Feb 26, 2018 3:20 pm

Kefla wrote:How much stronger would it be than Super Saiyan 4? Would it be able to compare to Super Saiyan Blue and Ultra Instinct in terms of power and performance?

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I don't think SSJ5 is needed to beat Blue. SSJ4 is enough (if we take GT Goku).
Would SSJ5 be stronger than UI? Hard to tell. In raw power probably yes. UI is more about speed and technique as far as i can tell.
In technique it's hard to tell what you need to beat UI. Also, we don't really know much about the real UI right now.
And we don't know anything about SSJ5 bcause it doesn't exist.
RedShift wrote:As powerful as the next villain (read: plot) required it to be in order to confront the next major villain on equal terms.
True. The truth is characters are always as strong as plot needs them to be at the moment.
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Re: How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:18 pm

In the Super era of Dragon Ball stories? As powerful as the writers need it to be.
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Re: How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

Post by Helios518 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:48 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:In the Super era ofDragon Ball stories? As powerful as the writers need it to be.
FTFY. For real though, this is the right answer. Though if I had to guess, it would likely be much weaker than SSJG.
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Post by Helios518 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:53 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:
Kefla wrote:How much stronger would it be than Super Saiyan 4? Would it be able to compare to Super Saiyan Blue and Ultra Instinct in terms of power and performance?

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1) I don't think SSJ5 is needed to beat Blue. SSJ4 is enough (if we take GT Goku).
2) Would SSJ5 be stronger than UI? Hard to tell. In raw power probably yes. UI is more about speed and technique as far as i can tell.
In technique it's hard to tell what you need to beat UI. Also, we don't really know much about the real UI right now.
And we don't know anything about SSJ5 bcause it doesn't exist.
1) I really doubt that. DBS SSJG almost accidentally destroyed the universe with a few mistakes, Omega could only dream of being able to emit that amount of destruction in that timme.

2) Even EP110 UI"O" showed us that power beyond SSJBKKx20 Genki-Dama & Infinite Zamasu (who's arguably around SSJB Vegetto in power). So the power increase is drastic.
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Re: How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

Post by RedRibbonSoldier#42 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:18 am

This much.

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Post by Asura » Wed Feb 28, 2018 2:26 am

RedRibbonSoldier#42 wrote:This much.

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In regards to the question, I would say it's probably SSB Kaioken levels of power.

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Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:24 am

This is DB so the form would be as powerful as the writing needs it to be if it existed.

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Post by Hugo Boss » Wed Feb 28, 2018 10:51 am

Considering the games have been portraying SSGSS and SS4 like rivals, I think SS5 would be similar to Ultra Instinct in relevance, but it depends on who has the final word on its power.

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Re: How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Wed Feb 28, 2018 11:34 am

Stronger than SS, SS2 and SS3 for sure. How far would the ceiling go? Who knows.
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Re: How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

Post by Gogeta Blue » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:06 am

It was a long time since i used to read Toyble/Young Jiji's Dragon Ball AF, both were awesome, but if i recall correctly:
SSJ5 Rage Gohan defeated Second Form Ize.
Full Power SSJ5 Goku defeated AF Omega Shenron

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Re: How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

Post by sintzu » Tue Mar 20, 2018 1:03 pm

It's not a thing yet (I think it'll be in the future) so we'll just have to wait and see. They haven't given any number for the post ssj3 forms so when this becomes a thing they'll probably leave it up to us to decide.
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Re: How powerful would Super Saiyan 5 be if it existed?

Post by Bebi Hatchiyack » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:40 am

If Super Saiyan 5 would exist it would be simply a Super Saiyan 4 stacked on top of a Migatte no Gokui 8)
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