Old artstyle vs New Artstyle 2.0

[Fionordequester]

Chelye? lol I don't know. I look at the puns to be based on what they're puns of, rather than being so on-the-nose and literal. Kind of like how "Kakarot" is not stylized as "Cacarrot" to fit "carrot" more.

That's fair. I tend to look at localization from the perspective of "we should feel exactly what the target audience felt". And with a lot of these names (like "Nappa", "Bardock", "Guldo", "Ginyu", and etc.), a lot of the puns aren't as clear to us as they would have been to the original Japanese audience. For them, "Kakarotto" WOULD be as obvious a pun as "Cacarrot" would be to us, you know what I mean?

It's silly, yeah. But Akira Toriyama is a silly man .

[JazzMazz]

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New scans are out, with new stuff for the side henchmen and Goku and Vegeta rocking jackets.

Love the jacket sheets, and I like the front on of Chelye.


What are other peoples thoughts on the new scans?

[KBABZ]

I tend to look at localization from the perspective of "we should feel exactly what the target audience felt". And with a lot of these names (like "Nappa", "Bardock", "Guldo", "Ginyu", and etc.), a lot of the puns aren't as clear to us as they would have been to the original Japanese audience. For them, "Kakarotto" WOULD be as obvious a pun as "Cacarrot" would be to us, you know what I mean?

Personally I like a more nuanced approach, so those work rather well for me.

[spoiler][/spoiler]
New scans are out, with new stuff for the side henchmen and Goku and Vegeta rocking jackets.

Vegeta looks like his internal thoughts are "This jacket's collar is UNREASONABLY large"

[TheGreatness25]

[spoiler][/spoiler]
New scans are out, with new stuff for the side henchmen and Goku and Vegeta rocking jackets.

Love the jacket sheets, and I like the front on of Chelye.


What are other peoples thoughts on the new scans?

Aw, I came up with "Chelye" lol (at least I think I did -- if not, then my train of thought was exactly the same as someone else's).

It's all well and good but... what the heck is wrong with Goku's face?

[JulieYBM]

I can't wait to see how those coat folds move. I hope there's a big emphasis on that.

[gokaiblue]

Still waiting on more footage of it in motion but so far, I like the style, but it just feels like a fan animation. I think it could probably use slightly more shading, but hopefully it'll look more refined as we get closer to release.

[JulieYBM]

Still waiting on more footage of it in motion but so far, I like the style, but it just feels like a fan animation. I think it could probably use slightly more shading, but hopefully it'll look more refined as we get closer to release.

Judging quality based on shading, rather than movement is a sure way to miss actual quality. Fan animations are nit synamous with bad quality, either.

[gokaiblue]

Still waiting on more footage of it in motion but so far, I like the style, but it just feels like a fan animation. I think it could probably use slightly more shading, but hopefully it'll look more refined as we get closer to release.

Judging quality based on shading, rather than movement is a sure way to miss actual quality. Fan animations are nit synamous with bad quality, either.

Fair enough, but it still looked rough overall in motion. It looked especially odd seeing this new style placed up against a highoy detailed backdrop. I'm simply judging this by what I saw in the teaser, so hopefully it will be better once we get closer to release

[Gafonso6]

Still waiting on more footage of it in motion but so far, I like the style, but it just feels like a fan animation. I think it could probably use slightly more shading, but hopefully it'll look more refined as we get closer to release.

Judging quality based on shading, rather than movement is a sure way to miss actual quality. Fan animations are nit synamous with bad quality, either.

Fair enough, but it still looked rough overall in motion. It looked especially odd seeing this new style placed up against a highoy detailed backdrop. I'm simply judging this by what I saw in the teaser, so hopefully it will be better once we get closer to release

The movie will probably just look similar to the teaser and not exactly like it. The teaser was 100% animated by Ryo Onishi with no corrections, that's why, for example, the noses are still very Yamamuro'ish and Goku's eyes are rounder than what we can see on the sheets.

[JazzMazz]

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Not sure how accurate the colours for the designs are.[/spoiler]
Found this comparison online.

With this in mind, what do people like or dislike about Shintani's Goku side-profile deisngn, in comparison to Toriyama's side profile of Goku from the manga?

The neck is a definite improvement in the Shintani side profile.

[gokaiblue]

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Not sure how accurate the colours for the designs are.[/spoiler]
Found this comparison online.

With this in mind, what do people like or dislike about Shintani's Goku side-profile deisngn, in comparison to Toriyama's side profile of Goku from the manga?

Well for one, his neck looks normal in the image in the left

They actually look remarkably similar to each other. The colors in the image on the left are a bit dark for my liking, but that might be due to how it was scanned.

[LordCrumb]

[spoiler][/spoiler]
New scans are out, with new stuff for the side henchmen and Goku and Vegeta rocking jackets.

Love the jacket sheets, and I like the front on of Chelye.


What are other peoples thoughts on the new scans?

Looks like they are trying to make them look younger Goku and Vegeta should have some more bulk to them.

[JazzMazz]

[spoiler][/spoiler]
New scans are out, with new stuff for the side henchmen and Goku and Vegeta rocking jackets.

Love the jacket sheets, and I like the front on of Chelye.


What are other peoples thoughts on the new scans?

Looks like they are trying to make them look younger Goku and Vegeta should have some more bulk to them.

What do you think of this comparison?
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I think it at least demonstrates the characters aren't really that much less buff than they usually are(besides, they're martial artistis, they aren't supposed to be overly buff in their base forms).

I keep hearing that Goku looks younger, but I honestly don't see it. To me, it just looks like a continuation from the manga buu arc, with more lively natural posture and expressions.

However, I still fail to see how them looking younger is necessarily a bad thing.

[KBABZ]

I keep hearing that Goku looks younger, but I honestly don't see it.

I think the comparisons are being made because of his slimmer built and larger, slightly less triangular eyes, which makes him look a bit closer to his teenage self from the 23rd TB.

[JazzMazz]

I keep hearing that Goku looks younger, but I honestly don't see it.

I think the comparisons are being made because of his slimmer built and larger, slightly less triangular eyes, which makes him look a bit closer to his teenage self from the 23rd TB.

Thats the thing, I don't think Goku is being built that differently in comparison to what he usually is and his certainly nowhere near the build he had as teen Goku.
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Goku's eye's when his being jovial have never really been that triangular though, even in his adult designs, so I don't even really see that point.
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[JazzMazz]

Big poster of model sheets. Most of them are stuff we've seen prior, but it also gives us a small look at some of the characters from angles we haven't seen yet.
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Goku and Vegeta as Super Saiyan Blue's are ridiculously buff. Holy crap.

[dbgtFO]

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Goku and Vegeta as Super Saiyan Blue's are ridiculously buff. Holy crap.

Goku doesn't look different from his base form in terms of buffness. At least from what I can tell comparing the 'from the side' views.

[JazzMazz]

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Goku and Vegeta as Super Saiyan Blue's are ridiculously buff. Holy crap.

Goku doesn't look different from his base form in terms of buffness. At least from what I can tell comparing the 'from the side' views.

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Based on the low quality image of the side profile we have available, I would say that the SSB design definitely has far more defined biceps than his base design.

[emperior]

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Goku and Vegeta as Super Saiyan Blue's are ridiculously buff. Holy crap.

Goku doesn't look different from his base form in terms of buffness. At least from what I can tell comparing the 'from the side' views.

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Based on the low quality image of the side profile we have available, I would say that the SSB design definitely has far more defined biceps than his base design.

The transformed forms definitely look a little buffer, and that is very nice as it will make them feel more impactful and threatening. Although it looks like Goku is flexing in the Super Saiyan character sheets, which may explain why his muscles look more detailed and big. If that’s intended, this is definitely some great attention to details.

[KBABZ]

Is it just me or has Frieza been taking Viagra? His tail is a LOT thicker thing time around, especially at the base.