Logania wrote:Just bringing up things like "these damn feminists argh" just out of the blue, like a YouTube comment section, sure.
But there's nothing wrong with discussing a company's use of forcing social/political narrative onto people, and using typical buzzwords on them when said people don't like it. It's a terrible business practice and is a problem with Lucasfilms at the moment.
No,
it really isn't. This is a COMPLETELY imaginary "offense" on the part of the very same kinds of "online nerds" who "just bring up these damn feminists out of the blue" all of the time and whatnot.
Look I have IMMENSE problems with the new Disney Star Wars movies myself (not least of which being the question of "Why does this even need to continue to go on existing
at all like this in the first place?" much in the same way as current revived Dragon Ball): their casting a female and African American into dual lead roles however is in NO way among them though. As many have already said, the original Star Wars trilogy did much the very same thing (Leia and Lando both say hi), and
no one gave a crap back then: mostly because back then we didn't have an alt-right-like presence stoking up this nonsense among geek communities.
The new Star Wars movies being badly written and hopelessly derivative of the classic trilogy is a problem which is COMPLETELY divorced and detached from the gender/ethnic status of the lead roles. It has EVERYTHING to do with these movies simply being lazy, hackneyed, corporatized, money-sponging tripe meant to suck nostalgia dollars from a nerd community that simply doesn't know when to resist their own continued yearnings to endlessly repeat their whole childhoods vicariously through their favorite childhood media works.
That these film roles are being filled with a girl and a black dude has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the films' lack of creativity, nor their "pushing some kind of political agenda" on anyone, and EVERYTHING to do with the fact that women and black people are groups that happen to exist in the world and might get cast as actors in movies (in lead roles even) from time to time. The films' lack of creativity and bad storytelling can be laid FIRMLY at the feet of Disney and their being little more than a money-vacuuming, soulless corporate monolith since... roughly almost forever and ever ago now.
The online nerd community getting whipped up into an impassioned frenzy over this type of thing is 1000% the initial invention of a bunch of embittered, sexually frustrated loser shitheads on places like 4chan and reddit who've (through a series of fucked up events over the past several years) have gotten themselves mixed up with various Neo-Nazi hate-groups like Stormfront and whatnot, and the snowballing fallout thereof. If you're someone who's genuinely fallen for this shit, then congratulations: you're an easily lead rube and a sucker who is falling for (IMMENSELY transparent and obvious) political propaganda. You're no different than the people who genuinely thought/continue to think that GamerGate was really all about "ethics in game journalism" rather than a thinly-disguised excuse for a bunch of online weirdos to stalk and harass a particular group of women they didn't personally like for vague, nebulous, and deeply personal/emotional reasons.
If I'm wrong about any of this, then answer one simple question: what sort of "political agenda" precisely does the casting of women and black people in a Star Wars movie (or in
any other piece of "nerd media" for that matter) exactly entail? What sort of tangible social or policy agenda can POSSIBLY be accomplished through such "insidious" tactics as various mainstream Hollywood movie studios simply acknowledging the reality that the world isn't primarily or solely made up of white dudes? What sort of "horrible end result" will potentially take hold of society that we need to be so deeply concerned about should we live in a world where... oh horror of horrors... more black and brown people and people with vaginas end up becoming a bit more visible in mainstream media than before?
Answer that question sparing
nothing in the way of
specific details and substance rather than relying on vague emotional platitudes or anecdotes about how some college chick with blue hair said something mean and snotty to you once. And If your answer involves ANY use of the term "white genocide", then see my earlier explanation in the paragraph before last: you're an easily lead rube and sucker who's fallen (to whatever degree) for transparently obvious Neo-Nazi-esque bullshit cloaked in a dumbass 4chan/Otaku/Pepe veneer.
Oh and a bonus question: what does a movie (or any other given piece of media) have to accomplish in its execution exactly to "justify" its casting a woman/ethnic minority actor into a major role without it embodying some supposed "SJW political agenda" that might piss off the internet? A "political agenda" whose purpose, once again, is to do or accomplish... what again exactly? Once again, answer this sparing NOTHING in the way of substantive details and specifics.
Bandai knows which side its bread is buttered on. Goku and Vegeta move product, so if you want a figure of them, you're going to have very little trouble getting one as they're made in abundance. It's the secondary characters who are scarce and shortpacked.
