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Who are the most popular Villains really?

Post by Bullza » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:08 am

This is sort of in response to the new movie bringing back another popular villain in Broly.

So let me make this as simple as I can, let's say that every Dragon Ball fan in the world got asked "Who is your favourite villain from the Dragon Ball franchise?" and then the results were tallied up, who would be the Top 5 that would be mentioned the most?

Don't include the likes of Piccolo Jr, Vegeta and Android 18, just those that are primarily known for being a villain.

Surely Frieza and Broly would be the two at the top, they not only brought them back for the newest movies but they were also used them for the 4D shows. Which one specially would be #1 I honestly couldn't say. Overall Frieza is considered the best but is he the most popular....hmmm maybe because of the Tournament of Power he would just about edge it.

So who would be the other three and in what order? Cell would be one. Buu would have to be one I imagine, I won't single out a specific form so I'll just say Buu in general and then finally...Goku Black? He's probably the most popular villain since the resurgence but I don't think he'd be as popular as the older classic ones.

I'd go with this

1. Frieza
2. Broly
3. Buu
4. Cell
5. Goku Black

Not anyone from the original Dragon Ball like King Piccolo. Definitely nobody from GT. Cooler or maybe Janemba are the next most popular movie villains and they wouldn't be in the Top 5. I don't think anyone else from Z would be in there and the only other possibility from Super would be Zamasu and he's obviously not as popular as Goku Black.

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Re: Who are the most popular Villains really?

Post by sunsetshimmer » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:33 am

1. Frieza
2. Broly
3. Cell
4. Buu
5. Cooler maybe

I don't think Buu is more popular than Cell.
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Re: Who are the most popular Villains really?

Post by SupremeKai25 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:48 am

Zamasu is one of the most popular villains in Dragon Ball history, perhaps coming in 3rd place behind Broly and Frieza. In fact, episode 47, which features the debut of Zamasu in the series, has the highest ratings in all of Super by far, even more than episodes 109/110/130/131. In addition, in the videogame Fighterz, which is probably the most anticipated and played Dragon Ball videogame of this year, Goku Black is one of the most popular characters and is considered to be S-tier (so he is one of the most powerful characters in the entire game), and Fused Zamasu is the most complex character by far, even having a unique flying mechanic that no other character in that videogame has.

The top 3 would definitely be 1) Frieza, 2) Broly and 3) Zamasu/Goku Black (same character).
Cell would be one
I heard that he is not very popular in Japan, so I wouldn't put him on this list.

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Post by ABED » Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:48 am

Vegeta would get second place. I know he joins the hero's team, but he still constitutes a villain during a popular point in the story.
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Re: Who are the most popular Villains really?

Post by Spider-Man » Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:48 pm

1-Frieza
    2-Broly
      3-Goku Black
        4-Buu
          5-Cell

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          Post by Grimlock » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:06 pm

          In Japan, I'm pretty sure the list would be something like this:

          1- Freeza.
          2- Time Breaker Bardock.
          3- Mira/Towa.
          4- Goku Black.
          5- Old Broly.

          In regards to worldwide I don't know.
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          Post by Bullza » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:20 pm

          I believe in Japan, Buu is more popular than Cell. I don't think people really cared about Cell over there.

          Maybe in the West Cell might be the more popular of the two. A lot of people really liked Goku Black but he's still relatively new.

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          Post by PFM18 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:35 pm

          Grimlock wrote:In Japan, I'm pretty sure the list would be something like this:

          1- Freeza.
          2- Time Breaker Bardock.
          3- Mira/Towa.
          4- Goku Black.
          5- Old Broly.

          In regards to worldwide I don't know.
          I doubt something that is Heroes/Xenoverse only is going to be numbers 2 and 3 in popularity

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          Post by Grimlock » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:41 pm

          PFM18 wrote:I doubt something that is Heroes/Xenoverse only is going to be numbers 2 and 3 in popularity
          You don't just underestimate the power of popularity, which Heroes and Xenoverse have the most.

          According to Hirano, the producer of Xenoverse, Towa and Mira didn't die in XV1 because of popularity (and that includes Toriyama himself).
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          Post by ABED » Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:47 pm

          I have a hard time believing newer villains are that popular in comparison to the classics. It seems mostly due to recency bias.
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          Post by precita » Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:03 pm

          ABED wrote:I have a hard time believing newer villains are that popular in comparison to the classics. It seems mostly due to recency bias.
          Yep, Zamasu/Goku Black have only been around for what...since 2016? No way are they as popular as characters who have had 20+ years of viewership through different generations of kids/adults watching Dragonball.

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          Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:21 pm

          5. Piccolo Daimao
          4. Majin Boo
          3. Broly
          2. Cell
          1. Freeza
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          Post by SSJmole » Sun Jul 22, 2018 3:37 pm

          1 Freeza
          2 king Piccolo
          3 cell
          4 Buu
          5 Emperor Pilaf

          I'll be honest so far new villians I've seen don't do it for me and I admit I don't like broly

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          Re: Who are the most popular Villains really?

          Post by Bullza » Sun Jul 22, 2018 8:54 pm

          Newer villains will be at a disadvantage but I wouldn't wave them off, Goku Black was very popular for about the half a year he was in the show.

          It would come up short against some of the iconic villains like Cell and Buu but I wouldn't out too many of the older ones above him.

          None of the villains from the original series or GT are as popular as Goku Black. No other villain from Super is as popular as Goku Black because Hit and Jiren aren't villains.

          So unless you think someone else from Z is more popular or one of the villains, mainly Cooler or Janemba then there ain't many more options.

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          Re: Who are the most popular Villains really?

          Post by Vijay » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:04 pm

          Frieza

          Broly

          Cell

          Majin Boo

          Black/Zamasu

          These are my thoughts

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          Post by Jackalope89 » Sun Jul 22, 2018 9:31 pm

          1. Freeza. Even before his return in the films, he was always thought of as Goku's arch-nemesis (even by "filthy casuals").
          2. Broly. His third film was awful, and lost what personality he had in the second, but his first film still sticks in people's minds decades after they first (and probably, only) time they saw it. Having a big, mean, killing machine go on a rampage and bulldoze Goku and co. is a good way to be remembered. Bad backstory or not.
          3. Cell. Not personally, but for a lot of people, they really like him.
          4. Black/Zamasu. Super's best (only true) villain, that because of him, an entire timeline was wiped out. And was a big antagonist of series favorite Future Trunks.
          5. Buu. Pink bubblegum monsters unite.

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          Post by SupremeKai25 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:46 am

          Black/Zamasu might be the "youngest" villains in the series, but the idea of an "Evil Goku" is an old one, dating back to many years before Battle of Gods. I have been seeing fan-fictions of Goku acting evil since 2003. It would not be far-fetched that Goku Black attracted around himself a very huge crowd of fans given his appearance alone (and appearances matter the most about a character). Indeed, this seems to be the case, given how the episode in which he debuts has the highest ratings in all of Super by far.

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          Re: Who are the most popular Villains really?

          Post by Bullza » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:32 pm

          Jackalope89 wrote:and lost what personality he had in the second
          I can't recall anything much different. What do you mean? Wasn't he a hulking screaming unstoppable monster in that movie too?

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          Post by Jackalope89 » Mon Jul 23, 2018 7:39 pm

          Bullza wrote:
          Jackalope89 wrote:and lost what personality he had in the second
          I can't recall anything much different. What do you mean? Wasn't he a hulking screaming unstoppable monster in that movie too?
          He had a few lines outside of grunting, wordless yells, and "KAKAROT!" in the first.

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          Re: Who are the most popular Villains really?

          Post by Kuwabara » Mon Jul 23, 2018 9:18 pm

          Bullza wrote:Definitely nobody from GT.
          Why not? I've heard plenty of people in America talk up Baby, Super 17, and especially Yi Xing Long. I don't know about Japanese fans, but GT villains seemed popular enough to be brought back for Heroes.
          This is the episode of when Gokuh enrages himself after Freezer talk shit about Kuririn

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