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Postby Ajay » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:46 pm

Unfortunately, movie 4 has a pretty intense colour cast. Easy to remove, but definitely another to the list of iffy tints in this remastered set.



The quality of the footage is excellent, but the more I see of this stuff, the more I do think Toei could have done a more thorough job of colour correcting.
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Postby Robo4900 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 7:51 pm

Ajay wrote:Unfortunately, movie 4 has a pretty intense colour cast. Easy to remove, but definitely another to the list of iffy tints in this remastered set.



The quality of the footage is excellent, but the more I see of this stuff, the more I do think Toei could have done a more thorough job of colour correcting.

I see...

How do the OG DB movies look? (Particularly curious about 2 and 4)
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Postby SqueakyBoots » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:22 pm

Ajay wrote:I could actually cry. Movie 3's treatment is just... unreal. Wow.



The dark detail, the colours. I'm in heaven.

Now those are some sexy screencaps.

I think that might be the best looking Dragon Ball remaster we've ever gotten. Would gladly throw my current Funi blu-rays in the trash if these ever got released here.

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Postby Ajay » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:24 pm

Robo4900 wrote:I see...

How do the OG DB movies look? (Particularly curious about 2 and 4)


I've only looked at movies 1 and 2 so far, but they're pretty competent. Again, some tints here and there, but definitely nothing extreme like some of the others in Z. Here's some shots from movie 2:

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Postby Robo4900 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:26 pm

Ajay wrote:
Robo4900 wrote:I see...

How do the OG DB movies look? (Particularly curious about 2 and 4)


I've only looked at movies 1 and 2 so far, but they're pretty competent. Again, some tints here and there, but definitely nothing extreme like some of the others in Z. Here's some shots from movie 2:


Oh man, you have no idea how much I love this.

DB movie 2 is my favourite of all the Dragon Ball movies, in fact I'd rank it among my favourite movies in general... And this is just beautiful. Thanks for the screenshots, man. :)
I really want to get this on a boxset or something...
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Postby jjgp1112 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:34 pm

Is this only on International Amazon Video?
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Postby KBABZ » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:40 pm

Man it's great to see Kid Goku in HD!

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Postby jjgp1112 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:45 pm

But yeah, these look so much better than the Dragon Boxes it's almost hilarious. It's kinda funny how the DBoxes used to be so coveted until we realized just how jacked up the colors were around 2009/10, and now I can't unsee it.
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Postby Robo4900 » Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:12 pm

jjgp1112 wrote:Is this only on International Amazon Video?

Japanese Amazon Video and Netflix.

KBABZ wrote:Man it's great to see Kid Goku in HD!

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We could have seen it much sooner -- though on a mostly-inferior master, despite its open-matte 4:3 framing -- if Funi had put their damn HD Dragon Ball movie masters out on Blu-Ray...! :roll:

jjgp1112 wrote:But yeah, these look so much better than the Dragon Boxes it's almost hilarious. It's kinda funny how the DBoxes used to be so coveted until we realized just how jacked up the colors were around 2009/10, and now I can't unsee it.

They are still somewhat coveted, because they're the lesser of many, many evils when it comes to Dragon Ball home media.
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But yeah, seriously, they suck. Motion blurring to reduce the grain(You can see artifacts of this in extreme dark areas), no colour correction, OPs 2 and 3 of GT used the D2 tape master for all the footage that was reused from OP1(But would hard-cut to the DBox film master immediately at the moment new footage came in), the GT special was D2 tape sourced, across the board there was bad crushing on both the light and dark ends, the master audio(In stereo for episodes 5+) Toei has always possessed of GT wasn't used, the stereo mix of Z movie 11 was ignored, the Z episode 1 preview was skipped, the DB episode 1 preview was skipped, the framing on most of the OG Dragon Ball box was too low so you can see the edges of the film frame in most shots(And in episode 52, for most of the runtime you can see the very top of the next frame at the bottom of the picture), the Big Box and other master audio copies aside from GT that Toei possess were ignored aside from the movie cinetapes, and the movies were 16:9 closed-matte instead of open-matte 4:3 or the correct 1.85:1 cinema ratio...
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Postby HakkaiBills93 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:12 am

wow is there a way (in private) to see netflix or amazon japan? beside of that anyone check if they did the same with episodes?

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Postby HakkaiBills93 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 4:17 am

Ajay wrote:Unfortunately, movie 4 has a pretty intense colour cast. Easy to remove, but definitely another to the list of iffy tints in this remastered set.



The quality of the footage is excellent, but the more I see of this stuff, the more I do think Toei could have done a more thorough job of colour correcting.


it's pretty the same with Hokuto No ken 25th anniversary box , colors have been corrected but it remains color cast that sometimes is really strong one, it's almost like if Toei dont' know how to white balance (but when we know how easy it is to remove a color cast it feel like an unfinished work)

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Postby Dragon Ball Ireland » Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:53 am

Going by those screenshots, this remaster is just drop dead gorgeous. Puts every other release of the Dragon Ball movies to shame (Dragon Box included).

I am hoping we will see a similar remaster for the three series (TOEI may be gearing up for a 30th anniversary collector's edition of DBZ here) and for other companies to import them.

MangaUK, in particular should definitely consider looking into it, especially if TOEI cover the series too. They missed the boat on Dragon Boxes and Z Blu-Rays, but there is still a demand for a UK DBZ Blu-Ray release, even moreso if its such a huge improvement over the ones Funi remastered themselves.

Also, might be a pipe dream but this would be a great chance for Funi to redub the series (or at least Z) as the Toonami generation will almost certainly always have the Funi Z Blu-Rays in print.
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Postby mute_proxy » Fri Jul 27, 2018 6:00 am

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:MangaUK, in particular should definitely consider looking into it, especially if TOEI cover the series too. They missed the boat on Dragon Boxes and Z Blu-Rays, but there is still a demand for a UK DBZ Blu-Ray release, even moreso if its such a huge improvement over the ones Funi remastered themselves.


You mean Funimation should look into it. MangaUK only rereleases Funimation's dubbed work in Europe.

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Postby Dragon Ball Ireland » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:09 am

mute_proxy wrote:
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:MangaUK, in particular should definitely consider looking into it, especially if TOEI cover the series too. They missed the boat on Dragon Boxes and Z Blu-Rays, but there is still a demand for a UK DBZ Blu-Ray release, even moreso if its such a huge improvement over the ones Funi remastered themselves.


You mean Funimation should look into it. MangaUK only rereleases Funimation's dubbed work in Europe.


You are right on that one. Inevitably Funimation will licence this remaster first, if it happens at all but I do hope Manga UK acquire it from them when and if that happens because, as I say there's still a demand for UK DBZ Blu-Rays, moreso if it ends up better than the existing Funi release.
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Postby PremiumSalt » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:47 am

PLEASE give me the DB/DBZ TV series in this quality. Hell, I'd take just the original Dragon Ball!
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Postby sangofe » Fri Jul 27, 2018 8:54 am

PremiumSalt wrote:PLEASE give me the DB/DBZ TV series in this quality. Hell, I'd take just the original Dragon Ball!


That's not possible due to the condition the films are in. And they are not 35 mm.

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Postby HakkaiBills93 » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:01 am

for the moment only movies are remastered for those who were wondered, i checked myself

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sangofe wrote:
PremiumSalt wrote:PLEASE give me the DB/DBZ TV series in this quality. Hell, I'd take just the original Dragon Ball!


That's not possible due to the condition the films are in. And they are not 35 mm.

Well, I'm well aware of that fact, but what I'm saying is I'd like a similar remaster done for the series, even if it isn't quite this good.
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Postby Baggie_Saiyan » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:20 am

MangaUK *just* finished releasing the FUNi remastered movies on BD. What unfortunate timing. R. I. P ever seeing these in the UK!
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Postby BlazingFiddlesticks » Fri Jul 27, 2018 9:41 am

Here I was pondering what version of the movies I wanted to buy and here comes this! The wait continues. Some of that color-casting is hideous, though, who let Lord Slug go through like that?

Baggie_Saiyan wrote:MangaUK *just* finished releasing the FUNi remastered movies on BD. What unfortunate timing. R. I. P ever seeing these in the UK!


What terrible timing!
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