Overall Would You Say The Dragonball Fandom Is Positive Or Negative Compared To Other Fandoms?

[Choujin Daizenshuu]

It isn't anymore good or bad than other fandoms but there is a strong sense of entitlement to the property due to its mainstream appeal. I still consider that form of entitlement to be utter nonsense.

[Spider-Man]

Well that’s just silly

Spoiler:

everyone knows its Tom Hardy and Spiderman Homecoming

I haven't watch Venom but I heard Tom Hardy is entertaining in this.

[MasenkoHA]

Whoops I meant Tom Holland.

[Logania]

I haven't watch Venom but I heard Tom Hardy is entertaining in this.

It's not the best movie, but Hardy was extremely entertaining and his banter with Venom was great. Now that the boring origin story and such is over and we have those 2 as a sort of buddy-cop duo, I really want a sequel.
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But yeah Holland best Spidey.

[Fionordequester]

It's about the same, I'd say. EVERY fandom I've ever gone to has it's positives and negatives; just like human beings in general.

[BlueBasilisk]

It's easily one of the worst I've participated in, though not as bad as Star Wars (as others have noted). We can have pretty civil discussion here and on /r/dbz so that's something.

[90sDBZ]

like who's the best Spiderman, which movie adaptation was the best etc..

Well that’s just silly

Spoiler:

everyone knows its Tom Hardy and Spiderman Homecoming

You mean Tom Holland? Tom Hardy is Venom. I'm more of a Tobey Maguire guy myself but Tom Holland does do an excellent job to his credit.

To stay on topic I'll say that the DB fandom is balanced out by having its share of friendly fans too. Even Youtube which is infamous for the arguments has plenty of open minded fans.

[MasenkoHA]

You mean Tom Holland? Tom Hardy is Venom. I'm more of a Tobey Maguire guy myself but Tom Holland does do an excellent job to his credit.

Yes I meant Holland. I corrected myself up above. They shouldn't have their names so goddamn similar. It's like the Chris thing.

You're a nice guy so I'll keep my opinions of Tobey Maguire to myself.

. Even Youtube which is infamous for the arguments has plenty of open minded fans.

Really? I'd say the Youtube comments are just under IGN board and Gamefaq forum for the cesspool of the Dragon Ball fandom.

[90sDBZ]

Really? I'd say the Youtube comments are just under IGN board and Gamefaq forum for the cesspool of the Dragon Ball fandom.

There's some toxic fans on there for sure, but there's also a good amount who aren't like that. At least it seems that way more recently.

[Spider-Man]

I haven't watch Venom but I heard Tom Hardy is entertaining in this.

It's not the best movie, but Hardy was extremely entertaining and his banter with Venom was great. Now that the boring origin story and such is over and we have those 2 as a sort of buddy-cop duo, I really want a sequel.
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But yeah Holland best Spidey.

Oh I see so Hardy is the highlights in this glad to see a good version of Venom and agreed Tom Holland is the best Spiderman.

[The gr]

It's about the same, I'd say. EVERY fandom I've ever gone to has it's positives and negatives; just like human beings in general.

Pretty much this, I believe there is no such thing as the perfect fandom or bad ones just bad fans and good ones

[prince212]

It’s the worst one I’ve sneak around related to manga/anime products .
Sometimes it remind me some sport teams fandoms where the rival team fans come to troll for fun

[RecolorSaiyan]

DB twitter fandom is awful , like 99% manchildren who think they are gods gift to humanity cause they know "x amount" about db and people with opposing opinions get ridiculed and its worse than other anime fandom accounts i follow on twitter. Kanzenshuu and reddit seem pretty cool. NForums is pretty fun, mostly just people shitposting and memeing but nothing mean spirited in most cases

[Cure Dragon 255]

I will say I LOVE THE DRAGON BALL FANDOM! It is the best! As long as you DO NOT LEAVE Kanzenshuu!!!

I say this because its the one fandom and community where I never felt like a stranger, even if we arent friends or even agree with other the mods make it so discussion and talking is always civil and fun.

[Cipher]

DB twitter fandom is awful , like 99% manchildren who think they are gods gift to humanity cause they know "x amount" about db and people with opposing opinions get ridiculed and its worse than other anime fandom accounts i follow on twitter. Kanzenshuu and reddit seem pretty cool. NForums is pretty fun, mostly just people shitposting and memeing but nothing mean spirited in most cases

I'm not sure what parts of DB twitter you're on. From what I've seen it's mostly just a mix of informative tweets and memes. Never gotten into, nor even really seen a serious fight of any kind on there.

I do still like Kanzenshuu though.

[Michsi]

DB twitter fandom is awful , like 99% manchildren who think they are gods gift to humanity cause they know "x amount" about db and people with opposing opinions get ridiculed and its worse than other anime fandom accounts i follow on twitter. Kanzenshuu and reddit seem pretty cool. NForums is pretty fun, mostly just people shitposting and memeing but nothing mean spirited in most cases

I'm not sure what parts of DB twitter you're on. From what I've seen it's mostly just a mix of informative tweets and memes. Never gotten into, nor even really seen a serious fight of any kind on there.

I think they're talking about the "normie" jokes you see tweeted out occasionally. I think the DB fandom has a reputation of being way worse than it actually is, but I will admit that I haven't never seen such a divide between those who claim to really know the franchise and those who have a more casual attitude towards as big as in this community.
But yeah, most of the fan content on twitter is made up of just harmless memes and jokes. Even debates tend to be pretty tame compared to what you'd imagine. The most heated I've seen things get was during the tracing debacle a couple of months ago.

[CTAkuma]

It's up there in terms of overall denial, fanboyism and stupidity

[MajinMan]

The biggest problem with the DB fandom is how segregated it really is. For example, let’s compare it to something similar like another big anime fandom, the Naruto fandom. The absolute biggest difference between the two is the almost forced division of sub and dub watchers.

Dragon Ball tends to have a LOT more arguments/fights/BS involving dubs, subs, what you should watch (canon), “you aren’t a real fan,” and so on. Let’s say there’s a die-hard fan of Dragon Ball, but he only watches the dub and doesn’t know anything about the sub. Then you have a fan who watches it subbed but doesn’t care about the dub. Because of how Funimation handled and changed DB, these two people are technically fans of two different shows, but are also in the same DB fandom. They, If they were to ever cross paths on the internet or wherever, won’t be able to communicate properly about the series other than the most barebones of “omg I liked it when Goku turned Super Saiyan.”

This divides the fandom in a way a series like Naruto does not. A dub watcher and sub watcher of Naruto CAN communicate properly about the series and its themes, characters, and dare I even say it, its music. This is not the case with Dragon Ball. We are so split to the core that it makes it hard to have civil, and more importantly, MEANINGFUL conversations with each other without one side sounding like a prick to the other. Whether it’s sub fans constantly correcting others saying stuff like “well, actually in the Japanese version it was like this” or dub fans going “grandma Goku SUCKS, I can’t believe people like her,” the arguments will never end. It also doesn’t help that one side has a majority of the fans, the English dub side, and the other has the minority, the sub side. This can lead to people claiming that sub fans are elitists and weebs, and sub fans claiming that dub fans are just nostalgia blind and don’t know any better. Nobody wins.

THIS is the reason the DB fandom seems more toxic than other fandoms. Every fandom, including DB, has their story debates, this arc is better than this arc, this character sucks while this one is cool, and so on. Even stuff like fanboys and whatnot are in every single fandom ever to exist. DB is special because we have a legitimate problem when it comes to the very basics of fandom interaction. Some of us literally cannot communicate with each other properly to even GET to those other, typical arguments you see in every fandom. It’s funny how that is a desirable goal.

Now, can sub and dub fans get along? Sure, of course they can. In a way, Dragon Ball Super has united us and helped ever so slightly fix that huge “sub vs dub” shit stain on this fandom. It’s also not completely impossible that a dub only fan will be willing to listen to a sub fan on how the series was altered for English audiences, and quite possibly give the Japanese version a shot after. I’ve seen it happen many times lately. But I will be completely honest with myself, I would rather pretend I know nothing about Dragon Ball than try to talk to a strictly dub only viewer about Dragon Ball. It’s just easier that way. Me having to just ignore all the dub changes and resist the urge to correct, and the other not having to hear my bullshit on how he watches a wrong version of the show, now that just sounds like a chore.

Even though I said all of that, it’s not all terrible. I honestly think it genuinely has gotten better since Super has aired. A lot of dub only fans have come to understand the characters and their original intent better, come to understand that Goku isn’t some Superman clone (Minus go away please), and come to accept that this is a legitimate version of DB that they can enjoy. Some have switched over to being sub fans. Some now enjoy both equally. And then there are some dub fans that still will only watch it dubbed, but have come to understand the mistakes Funimation made with the English dubs and the big differences between the two versions. The fanbase, even with all the crap you still see, is at a better place than it was before Super. At least I can say that much.

I don’t know if my rambling even makes much sense to anyone here, but this is why I think the Dragon Ball fandom seems to have a more toxic fanbase than most. If you take away the “sub vs dub “stuff, it just turns into any other fanbase. Actually, it might be better than most other fanbases without it.

[Dbzfan94]

It was always kinda negative but imo it was never this bad before TFS became “mainstream DB” for casual fans and the series revival with Battle of Gods.

[Kataphrut]

It was always kinda negative but imo it was never this bad before TFS became “mainstream DB” for casual fans and the series revival with Battle of Gods.

As someone who got into the series via those two things, that sounds a wee bit like gatekeeping to me. How exactly has that made it worse?