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Manga UK's cover of "Dragon Ball GT: The Complete Series"

Post by JohnnyCashKami » Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:50 am

This is the one thing they should have managed to do flawlessly and yet, still screwed it up. You see, where the GT logo is placed there's a chunk of blank space available and the cover designer should've covered it with the logo so it wouldn't look so out of place as it does.
For comparison, here's Season 2 cover.
Maybe this isn't the final version of the cover but probably is, when Manga UK publishes their covers then it's usually what you're gonna get if you buy it. At least it uses the original GT logo instead of the metallic one, so that's cool.

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Re: Manga UK's cover of "Dragon Ball GT: The Complete Series"

Post by KBABZ » Sat Nov 17, 2018 6:26 am

JohnnyCashKami wrote:This is the one thing they should have managed to do flawlessly and yet, still screwed it up. You see, where the GT logo is placed there's a chunk of blank space available and the cover designer should've covered it with the logo so it wouldn't look so out of place as it does.
Not to mention it's a completely different logo! The outlines are thinner, there isn't one at all for the red triangle, and there's no drop shadow.
JohnnyCashKami wrote:At least it uses the original GT logo instead of the metallic one, so that's cool.
I agree that the metallic look and the cuts in it are a bit much, but in terms of the actual shape I've always preferred the US version. There just seems to be more... intent in that one, as opposed to the Toriyama sketch-originating one for Japan.

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Post by sangofe » Sat Nov 17, 2018 7:52 am

JohnnyCashKami wrote:This is the one thing they should have managed to do flawlessly and yet, still screwed it up. You see, where the GT logo is placed there's a chunk of blank space available and the cover designer should've covered it with the logo so it wouldn't look so out of place as it does.
For comparison, here's Season 2 cover.
Maybe this isn't the final version of the cover but probably is, when Manga UK publishes their covers then it's usually what you're gonna get if you buy it. At least it uses the original GT logo instead of the metallic one, so that's cool.
The cover does not bother me at all...

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Re: Manga UK's cover of "Dragon Ball GT: The Complete Series"

Post by Forte224 » Sat Nov 17, 2018 9:49 am

I can't help but feel like this belongs in the Non-thread-worthy discussions topic. Did this really need its own brand new topic?

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Nov 17, 2018 10:16 am

Yeah, it looks very unprofessional. I was thinking it would have the same cover as Funimation's GT Complete Series but in a fat pack. And that close up of SSJ4 Goku looks awful.

I have the two season sets they released so I won't be picking this up, and its probably only a matter of time before a Blu-Ray release of GT becomes available.
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Post by JohnnyCashKami » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:51 pm

Forte224 wrote:I can't help but feel like this belongs in the Non-thread-worthy discussions topic. Did this really need its own brand new topic?
This is a retail product and Manga UK should not be half-assing it since they should be handling it professionally. We're not talking about some new distributor to the anime market that just started out.

Even my custom-made covers that someone made looks better than this.

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Post by Forte224 » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:23 pm

That doesn't really answer why this is such an issue that it warrants its own topic.

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Post by MadSpecialist » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:15 am

I think it's unfair to squarely place the blame on Manga UK. If I'm not mistaken, the artwork needs to be approved by Toei, perhaps it was their decision to change the logo. Clearly, the packaging was initially designed with the logo on Funimation's set in mind.

I actually prefer that Manga UK's release has the original logo and it even gives the cover some possibly needed breathing space.

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Re: Manga UK's cover of "Dragon Ball GT: The Complete Series"

Post by mecha3000 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:34 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Yeah, it looks very unprofessional. I was thinking it would have the same cover as Funimation's GT Complete Series but in a fat pack. And that close up of SSJ4 Goku looks awful.

I have the two season sets they released so I won't be picking this up, and its probably only a matter of time before a Blu-Ray release of GT becomes available.
You really think Funimation will re-release GT? Seems like a waste of time considering they now have new DB content to focus on. And GT was never well received by most fans so I doubt Funimation will waste their time on a re-release, which is why the Complete Series bundle exists (although i do admit that was released almost ten years ago)

Honestly though, I actually want a GT re-release on Blu-ray because I'm a fan of GT. What Funimation would need to do to get me on board, however, would be to redub certain scenes like they did with the Z Season Sets to better match Goku's personality as the English world now knows it. I swear I cringed hearing SSJ4 Goku's lines against Baby and Omega Shenron because it was too Superman cheese. And get Doc Morgan to redo the narration because the old one's hardcore voice doesnt fit with GT's original music that Funi added back in.

Oh, and put the actual previews in this time. Hell, maybe even retitle the episodes to fit the Japanese titles. All of this might give GT a little bit of a better reputation.

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Post by KBABZ » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:02 pm

mecha3000 wrote:
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Honestly though, I actually want a GT re-release on Blu-ray because I'm a fan of GT. What Funimation would need to do to get me on board, however, would be to redub certain scenes like they did with the Z Season Sets to better match Goku's personality as the English world now knows it. I swear I cringed hearing SSJ4 Goku's lines against Baby and Omega Shenron because it was too Superman cheese. And get Doc Morgan to redo the narration because the old one's hardcore voice doesnt fit with GT's original music that Funi added back in.
I agree with these two. Fix the old dubcore narrator dialogue and remove a lot of Goku's "I'm the hero, the light in the dark" crap and for me it'd be much better.

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Post by JohnnyCashKami » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:19 pm

Forte224 wrote:That doesn't really answer why this is such an issue that it warrants its own topic.
It does, but you're just looking for a reason to get into an argument as to why this shouldn't deserve to have exposure.
MadSpecialist wrote:I think it's unfair to squarely place the blame on Manga UK. If I'm not mistaken, the artwork needs to be approved by Toei, perhaps it was their decision to change the logo. Clearly, the packaging was initially designed with the logo on Funimation's set in mind.

I actually prefer that Manga UK's release has the original logo and it even gives the cover some possibly needed breathing space.
If this was somehow TOEI's doing then it's a pretty odd decision to leave that blank space.
mecha3000 wrote:You really think Funimation will re-release GT? Seems like a waste of time considering they now have new DB content to focus on. And GT was never well received by most fans so I doubt Funimation will waste their time on a re-release, which is why the Complete Series bundle exists (although i do admit that was released almost ten years ago)

Honestly though, I actually want a GT re-release on Blu-ray because I'm a fan of GT. What Funimation would need to do to get me on board, however, would be to redub certain scenes like they did with the Z Season Sets to better match Goku's personality as the English world now knows it. I swear I cringed hearing SSJ4 Goku's lines against Baby and Omega Shenron because it was too Superman cheese. And get Doc Morgan to redo the narration because the old one's hardcore voice doesnt fit with GT's original music that Funi added back in.

Oh, and put the actual previews in this time. Hell, maybe even retitle the episodes to fit the Japanese titles. All of this might give GT a little bit of a better reputation.
FUNimation has the Dragon Box GT footage, I think, so they could take a go at remastering it in high definition but chances are they'd somehow screw it up so better off leaving it to TOEI. They (FUNimation) have shown little to no interest to release Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball GT media on Blu-ray, even though FUNi remastered the DB Movies 1-4 but never published it on BD themselves.

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Re: Manga UK's cover of "Dragon Ball GT: The Complete Series"

Post by Forte224 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:41 pm

JohnnyCashKami wrote:
Forte224 wrote:That doesn't really answer why this is such an issue that it warrants its own topic.
It does, but you're just looking for a reason to get into an argument as to why this shouldn't deserve to have exposure.
Seriously man? Why in the world would I do that? Am I some secret undercover Manga UK employee? I come to this forum because I know it is a place that won't be overrun with pointless topics. This belongs in the Non-thread worthy discussions topic. What is there to discuss? It's a chunk of green bar showing because the logo isn't covering it. Whoop-de-doo, can't wait to have a meaningful and stimulating discussion on THAT.

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Re: Manga UK's cover of "Dragon Ball GT: The Complete Series"

Post by KBABZ » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:50 pm

Forte224 wrote:
JohnnyCashKami wrote:
Forte224 wrote:That doesn't really answer why this is such an issue that it warrants its own topic.
It does, but you're just looking for a reason to get into an argument as to why this shouldn't deserve to have exposure.
Seriously man? Why in the world would I do that? Am I some secret undercover Manga UK employee? I come to this forum because I know it is a place that won't be overrun with pointless topics. This belongs in the Non-thread worthy discussions topic. What is there to discuss? It's a chunk of green bar showing because the logo isn't covering it. Whoop-de-doo, can't wait to have a meaningful and stimulating discussion on THAT.
I thought this topic was interesting and participated in it. There's been tons of threads on trivial topics that I've really enjoyed despite how granular they are (like which of the staff draws Goku's hair the best), I don't see how this is any different.

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:35 pm

mecha3000 wrote:
Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Yeah, it looks very unprofessional. I was thinking it would have the same cover as Funimation's GT Complete Series but in a fat pack. And that close up of SSJ4 Goku looks awful.

I have the two season sets they released so I won't be picking this up, and its probably only a matter of time before a Blu-Ray release of GT becomes available.
You really think Funimation will re-release GT? Seems like a waste of time considering they now have new DB content to focus on. And GT was never well received by most fans so I doubt Funimation will waste their time on a re-release, which is why the Complete Series bundle exists (although i do admit that was released almost ten years ago)
I think they will eventually, perhaps not any time soon but it wouldn't make much sense business wise.

Even though a lot of people don't like GT there's still enough who are and have been willing to buy it. The fact Funimation and Manga UK both repackaged the seasons into Complete Series shows GT has at very least done decently for them.

I don't see that Completed Series set as closing the door on the Blu-Ray format though. Funimation have likely been waiting for the right moment to avoid oversaturating the market with multiple remasters. The level sets came out the year of GT's 15th anniversary (2011) and the season sets finished up not long before the 20th anniversary (2016) of which Resurrection F could have been used as a stopgap for the year in between. It's possible Funimation were holding out to see if TOEI would do a new remaster either of those years so that they could continue the money train if the level sets were the success they hoped they'd be, and by 2016 Blu-Rays had dropped in price significantly in addition to the DVD format becoming a thing of the past. I would argue if TOEI released a GT Blu-Ray in 2016 Funimation would have tried to license it so they wouldn't have a dry year of no DB releases just waiting for TOEI to let them release The Final Chapters and get Super licenced (which is what did happen, but a GT Blu-Ray would have at least brought in some additional sales during that lull time).

Super is obviously a factor because its Funimation's main priority now, but once its all been released if there is a dry spell of either home releases or new content and TOEI have a remaster ready to import I don't see Funimation not jumping on it, because, as we all know Dragon Ball prints money.
mecha3000 wrote:Honestly though, I actually want a GT re-release on Blu-ray because I'm a fan of GT. What Funimation would need to do to get me on board, however, would be to redub certain scenes like they did with the Z Season Sets to better match Goku's personality as the English world now knows it. I swear I cringed hearing SSJ4 Goku's lines against Baby and Omega Shenron because it was too Superman cheese. And get Doc Morgan to redo the narration because the old one's hardcore voice doesnt fit with GT's original music that Funi added back in.

Oh, and put the actual previews in this time. Hell, maybe even retitle the episodes to fit the Japanese titles. All of this might give GT a little bit of a better reputation.
Yeah I would love a redub of GT. Not a fan of Funimation's take on it at all, but a few redubs here and there, especially cutting out Goku's speeches about being a good person here and there would make it a bit more tolerable. Doubt they'd want to put the money into such a project though.
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Re: Manga UK's cover of "Dragon Ball GT: The Complete Series"

Post by KBABZ » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:13 pm

Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:
mecha3000 wrote:Honestly though, I actually want a GT re-release on Blu-ray because I'm a fan of GT. What Funimation would need to do to get me on board, however, would be to redub certain scenes like they did with the Z Season Sets to better match Goku's personality as the English world now knows it. I swear I cringed hearing SSJ4 Goku's lines against Baby and Omega Shenron because it was too Superman cheese. And get Doc Morgan to redo the narration because the old one's hardcore voice doesnt fit with GT's original music that Funi added back in.

Oh, and put the actual previews in this time. Hell, maybe even retitle the episodes to fit the Japanese titles. All of this might give GT a little bit of a better reputation.
Yeah I would love a redub of GT. Not a fan of Funimation's take on it at all, but a few redubs here and there, especially cutting out Goku's speeches about being a good person here and there would make it a bit more tolerable. Doubt they'd want to put the money into such a project though.
Main problem of course is that a lot of it was also said by Nadolny, and to redub Kid Goku's lines would basically be to have Clinkenbeard redo all 64 episode's worth of dialogue, which wouldn't be worth the expense to Funimation (and IMO it'd seriously devalue the final product as well).

For me the main dialogue issues come from Goku saying he's a hero who fights evil basically because it's what he does. I personally am fine with him saying he's a good guy, because he sorta is, right?

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Re: Manga UK's cover of "Dragon Ball GT: The Complete Series"

Post by MadSpecialist » Sun Nov 25, 2018 6:25 am

JohnnyCashKami wrote:If this was somehow TOEI's doing then it's a pretty odd decision to leave that blank space.
I was about to disagree but having just looked at Manga UK's seasons 1 & 2 of GT, it is odd that they've used a different logo on those to their complete set. Although I actually prefer the packaging they've ended up with, I won't be picking it up anyway due to no Japanese titles or credits being included, as far as I'm aware.

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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Fri Dec 06, 2019 2:23 pm

If anyone is interested in buying this set it's available on Base.com for £17.39, alternatively there's Season 1 and 2 for £11.29 and £10.99 respectively.

Regardless of any other problems these releases have that's a great deal for 64 episodes. I remember it was available for $25 in Walmarts and thinking how good the US have it, so happy to see a similar deal around this part of the world.
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Post by Dragon Ball Ireland » Sat Sep 30, 2023 10:35 am

GT is now on Rarewaves anime sale for £14.71.

Absolute steal for 64 episodes and 1 special.
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