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Re: Dub Changes That Don't Bother You...that much

Post by KBABZ » Mon Dec 03, 2018 8:35 am

Kunzait_83 wrote:
KBABZ wrote:Over 9000 is the 90s equivalent to The Cake Was a Lie. Not that funny to begin with, and was within a week overused to death.
Over 9000 didn't take off as a meme until 2006. Anytime prior to that point, much less back in the 90s, if you randomly said "Its Over 9000!!" to anyone - even to a die-hard anime Otaku - they'd most likely look at you like you were a complete mental patient. Rightly so.
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Post by Kunzait_83 » Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:44 am

Also, despite being wholly unsurprising, this is still fucking depressing as hell.

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Re: Dub Changes That Don't Bother You...that much

Post by Soppa Saia People » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:27 am

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Soppa Saia People wrote:in fairness, internet culture and memes as whole from that age, doesn't hold up well and a lot of that stuff was pretty hit and miss with how funny it was. i won't lie i do kinda miss the simplicity of it though.
You're misunderstanding me. I'm not saying that Over 9000 was a case of "This was funny at one point long ago in a more innocent time, but just doesn't hold up these days." I'm saying that it was NEVER funny and was ALWAYS completely brain dead, even back then when it first became a thing, and people were always being ridiculously stupid for even making it into a thing in the first place.
oh hahaha yea i never found it really funny either, just kinda interesting about how people view memes and that sorta stuff.
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Re: Dub Changes That Don't Bother You...that much

Post by MasenkoHA » Mon Dec 03, 2018 11:40 am

Not only was the It’s over 9000 line never funny it just got embarassing when certain companies were using it well past its expiration date

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Post by TheBigBoy » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:04 am

Not a "dub" change exactly but I always liked Piccolo's quasi-Shakesperean dialogue he uses for a time in the Viz translation.

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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 4:36 pm

When it came to over 9000 I felt bad for Chris Sabat. People CONSTANTLY asked him to do it and after a while you could see how sick of it he was. Weird part is that the meme was majority used with the ocean dub voices.

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Post by matt0044 » Mon Dec 24, 2018 10:02 am

Fionordequester wrote:Bardock becoming more of a good guy in the Bardock movie. Because NOW, that's pretty much what Toriyama's made him, anyway :lol: .
Eh... I would've accepted it better if they used his final words to Freeza from the Kai dub's first episode. Otherwise, Sonny Strait makes it work for all its worth.

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Post by matt0044 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:22 pm

Kunzait_83 wrote: Mon Dec 03, 2018 9:44 am Also, despite being wholly unsurprising, this is still fucking depressing as hell.

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Ah, let people have their own stupid fun. If they think the meme is funny, fine by me. Who are we to dictate somebody's tastes?

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Post by Yalos » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:37 pm

I prefer the cheesy move names personally

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Re: Dub Changes That Don't Bother You...that much

Post by Mr.Poot » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:09 am

Tao Pai Pai being called Mercenary Tao never bothered me it just kinda ruined the name scheme of the Red Ribbon Army but then again he never was a member.

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Mr.Poot wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:09 am Tao Pai Pai being called Mercenary Tao never bothered me it just kinda ruined the name scheme of the Red Ribbon Army but then again he never was a member.
I didn't mind "Mercenary Tao," but later on you had stuff calling him "general," which was pretty weird.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:00 am

In the latest Super episode, they changed the dialogue that sort of implied Roshi was going to rape Caway (or at least that she was afraid that he would). That was probably a good idea.
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Re: Dub Changes That Don't Bother You...that much

Post by KBABZ » Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:04 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 6:00 am In the latest Super episode, they changed the dialogue that sort of implied Roshi was going to rape Caway (or at least that she was afraid that he would). That was probably a good idea.
Agreed. I'm normally all for "keep it as accurate as possible", but in this case I throw it in the same bucket as Pan's "Girls are stronger when they cry!" line GT, Oolong all but saying he'll rape Bulma in the Double Decker Capsule Bus, and General Blue saying that Obotchaman is "his type" before leaning in for a kiss.

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Post by MyVisionity » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:54 pm

Kamiccolo9 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:51 am
Mr.Poot wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:09 am Tao Pai Pai being called Mercenary Tao never bothered me it just kinda ruined the name scheme of the Red Ribbon Army but then again he never was a member.
I didn't mind "Mercenary Tao," but later on you had stuff calling him "general," which was pretty weird.
The "General Tao" name actually predates the "Mercenary Tao" name, it comes from the Harmony Gold dubbed version of Mystical Adventure. FUNimation used this name in its Cell saga before dubbing the DB series.

The only reason FUNimation's Tao has a title at all is probably because of the Harmony Gold name. I doubt they would have given him the "Mercenary" name without it.

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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:01 pm

MyVisionity wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:54 pm
Kamiccolo9 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:51 am
Mr.Poot wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:09 am Tao Pai Pai being called Mercenary Tao never bothered me it just kinda ruined the name scheme of the Red Ribbon Army but then again he never was a member.
I didn't mind "Mercenary Tao," but later on you had stuff calling him "general," which was pretty weird.
The "General Tao" name actually predates the "Mercenary Tao" name, it comes from the Harmony Gold dubbed version of Mystical Adventure. FUNimation used this name in its Cell saga before dubbing the DB series.

The only reason FUNimation's Tao has a title at all is probably because of the Harmony Gold name. I doubt they would have given him the "Mercenary" name without it.
Interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks.

Still weird, though. Unless he was actually part of the RRA in Mystical Adventure? I haven't seen the DB movies.
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Re: Dub Changes That Don't Bother You...that much

Post by KBABZ » Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:02 pm

MyVisionity wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:54 pm The only reason FUNimation's Tao has a title at all is probably because of the Harmony Gold name. I doubt they would have given him the "Mercenary" name without it.
That and Tao Pai-Pai sounds too foreign. Can't have that in the dub of a show inspired by Journey to the West!

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Kamiccolo9 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 3:01 pm
MyVisionity wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:54 pm
Kamiccolo9 wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:51 am

I didn't mind "Mercenary Tao," but later on you had stuff calling him "general," which was pretty weird.
The "General Tao" name actually predates the "Mercenary Tao" name, it comes from the Harmony Gold dubbed version of Mystical Adventure. FUNimation used this name in its Cell saga before dubbing the DB series.

The only reason FUNimation's Tao has a title at all is probably because of the Harmony Gold name. I doubt they would have given him the "Mercenary" name without it.
Interesting, I didn't know that. Thanks.

Still weird, though. Unless he was actually part of the RRA in Mystical Adventure? I haven't seen the DB movies.
He's part of the Mifan Empire's army in Mystical Adventure, so it actually made sense to give him the general name there. Funi dubbed the movie around the same time as the Cell arc, so I'd imagine that's where the confusion came from.
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Post by WittyUsername » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:20 pm

If I recall, there was one point in the dub of GT where it seemed like the writers tried to make Baby come across as a well intentioned extremist (or at least someone who pretended to be) by having him justify his mind control with the argument that he was eliminating things like war and conflict. That change didn’t especially bother me, although it didn’t mesh especially well with the fact that Baby was willing to kills his followers just to test his power. Then again, I guess you could make the argument that it emphasized his hypocrisy.

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Re: Dub Changes That Don't Bother You...that much

Post by KBABZ » Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:24 pm

WittyUsername wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 4:20 pm If I recall, there was one point in the dub of GT where it seemed like the writers tried to make Baby come across as a well intentioned extremist (or at least someone who pretended to be) by having him justify his mind control with the argument that he was eliminating things like war and conflict. That change didn’t especially bother me, although it didn’t mesh especially well with the fact that Baby was willing to kills his followers just to test his power. Then again, I guess you could make the argument that it emphasized his hypocrisy.
This is the stance that I took. Baby's character overall is that of a massive, MASSIVE hypocrite, someone who maybe on some level is trying to avenge the Tsufruians, but is ultimately using that as an excuse to enact his revenge and power by any means nessecary. Makes him unique as far as DB villains go.

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Post by Gligarman » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:47 pm

Okay, as someone who absolutely prefers watching the Japanese version not just because that's how I usually watch anime but also because of the excessive amount of unnecessary changes made in the DB dub I will admit that they did make one change that not only didn't bother me but that I wholeheartedly support. I actually appreciate that Mr. Popo does not speak in a broken dialect like he does in that Japanese version. His appearance is troublesome enough (though I don't think that justifies censorship) but I think having him speak broken English in the dub would have just made the situation worse.

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