Exactly, even with the best deals out there the Dragon Boxes are still expensive for what they are. If there was an uncropped complete standard definition release of Dragon Ball Z widely available no one would say paying $700 for a Collector's Edition version of that. That's looking at 3-4 times what most people would be willing to pay just to have slightly better colours, booklets and a sturdier box to keep the DVD cases in. The improved picture quality and extra packaging is most certainly nice to have but it's not worth paying hundreds of extra dollars for. I sold my Dragon Boxes as it made more sense to wait and see if TOEI would be remastering the series (which now looks likely) because there is every chance that release will look better, cost less (for the time being), contain more episodes per disc and be on a more durable format than the Dragon Boxes.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:How is that not expensive? It'll be $700+ to own the whole series and one that is a terrible adaptation of Toriyama's manga, has a terrible dub and awful sound for the JPN audio and then no one is ever gonna get their money worth because of the lack of re-rewatchability the series has. How often is one gonna watch a 291 ep series? I'd imagine not often.Paulo Gabriel wrote:The Dragon Boxes go for no more than $100 per box last I checked. Except maybe for 2. So this is not accurate.NewKakarot wrote:Really hope we get an updated Dragon Box release (on Blu-ray). The DVDs are ridiculously expensive on the secondary market, and they're only in standard definition.
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That right there is the issue that FUNi and Toei face of this indeed is Z series release and not movies. Much cheaper releases of the series already exists in three versions (OB's, BD's and Kai) no matter how they market this release, if it is main Z series, it is gonna be difficult, a proper remaster is gonna expensive. Would folks cough up $500+ up front? Since Toei are involved we can kiss any chance of the broadcast audio goodbye, less incentive for hardcore fans already. If it's like the level sets a volume release could be another instance of cancellation because again why would people bother especially when the new material is also being released.Dragon Ball Ireland wrote:Exactly, even with the best deals out there the Dragon Boxes are still expensive for what they are. If there was an uncropped complete standard definition release of Dragon Ball Z widely available no one would say paying $700 for a Collector's Edition version of that. That's looking at 3-4 times what most people would be willing to pay just to have slightly better colours, booklets and a sturdier box to keep the DVD cases in. The improved picture quality and extra packaging is most certainly nice to have but it's not worth paying hundreds of extra dollars for. I sold my Dragon Boxes as it made more sense to wait and see if TOEI would be remastering the series (which now looks likely) because there is every chance that release will look better, cost less (for the time being), contain more episodes per disc and be on a more durable format than the Dragon Boxes.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:How is that not expensive? It'll be $700+ to own the whole series and one that is a terrible adaptation of Toriyama's manga, has a terrible dub and awful sound for the JPN audio and then no one is ever gonna get their money worth because of the lack of re-rewatchability the series has. How often is one gonna watch a 291 ep series? I'd imagine not often.Paulo Gabriel wrote:
The Dragon Boxes go for no more than $100 per box last I checked. Except maybe for 2. So this is not accurate.
That is why I think this will be the movies JPN got, they can market it similar to how they did Rock the Dragon
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How do you figure?Baggie_Saiyan wrote:, they can market it similar to how they did Rock the Dragon
Wasn’t Rock the Dragon’s marketing ZOMG nostalgia!!?!?11! and hey that meme remember that meme? It came from this! It’s over 9000!!!!!
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In regards to Toei's involvement, I wouldn't give up hope on the Broadcast audio just yet. Funimation most likely knows about the demand and will be able to convince Toei better than yiur average fan
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Oh I meant easier to market. Like how they had all the 52 eps and the movies in one special collectors packing and charged what $75 was it? I feel like they could do something similar with the old movies and specials put them in a special release charge not too much and I think they'd do well. Plus the old movies haven't had a release for a while too.MasenkoHA wrote:How do you figure?Baggie_Saiyan wrote:, they can market it similar to how they did Rock the Dragon
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I just think main Z series is gonna hard to convince people to be into it, when you can get it "how it was meant to be seen" for chips we saw what happened with DBOXES/Levels FUNi just can't rely on hardcare fans.
A good remaster isn't gonna be cheap, on top of that although picture maybe uncropped etc the JPN audio issues are still gonna be an issue and we'll still be subjected to that terrible dub aswell. Unless of course they do something like print on demand, that might be the smartest way to go about it actually.
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The DBoxes and Level sets were two VERY different instances. The Level Sets were meant to be mass marketed. The DBoxes were limited releases.
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I actually considered getting the Level Sets back when they were first coming out in 2011 because the quality looked so good and it seemed like FUNi was on the right track, it's a darn shame that they went belly up and got replaced by those crap Season BD's.ABED wrote:The DBoxes and Level sets were two VERY different instances. The Level Sets were meant to be mass marketed. The DBoxes were limited releases.
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What about Fathom Events?
Do you think they will bring more DBZ Movies in the U.S. theaters?
Do you think they will bring more DBZ Movies in the U.S. theaters?
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Seeing as how funi used the uncensored remasters for fathoms, I think it's a good assumption to say we're at least getting the movies(please add ocean audio) Tho I really hope for a better release of the show.TheRed259 wrote:What about Fathom Events?
Do you think they will bring more DBZ Movies in the U.S. theaters?
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Point this both did poorly, because of other cheaper options available. That's why I think they'll struggle here if these are indeed the proper series whether it is for the general audience or hardcore.ABED wrote:The DBoxes and Level sets were two VERY different instances. The Level Sets were meant to be mass marketed. The DBoxes were limited releases.
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You say they both did poorly but they had two different goals and targets. How do you know the dragon boxes did poorly?Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Point this both did poorly, because of other cheaper options available.
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If you think it's a terrible adaptation, then why bother with the anime at all? Let the people who DO care about it to pay as much as they want to. And I speak this as someone who DOES personally prefer the manga, and also thinks the anime is terrible at places.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:How is that not expensive? It'll be $700+ to own the whole series and one that is a terrible adaptation of Toriyama's manga, has a terrible dub and awful sound for the JPN audio and then no one is ever gonna get their money worth because of the lack of re-rewatchability the series has. How often is one gonna watch a 291 ep series? I'd imagine not often.Paulo Gabriel wrote:The Dragon Boxes go for no more than $100 per box last I checked. Except maybe for 2. So this is not accurate.NewKakarot wrote:Really hope we get an updated Dragon Box release (on Blu-ray). The DVDs are ridiculously expensive on the secondary market, and they're only in standard definition.
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That's not true. The old movies just got a new release by Toei.Baggie_Saiyan wrote:Oh I meant easier to market. Like how they had all the 52 eps and the movies in one special collectors packing and charged what $75 was it? I feel like they could do something similar with the old movies and specials put them in a special release charge not too much and I think they'd do well. Plus the old movies haven't had a release for a while too.MasenkoHA wrote:How do you figure?Baggie_Saiyan wrote:, they can market it similar to how they did Rock the Dragon
Wasn’t Rock the Dragon’s marketing ZOMG nostalgia!!?!?11! and hey that meme remember that meme? It came from this! It’s over 9000!!!!!
I just think main Z series is gonna hard to convince people to be into it, when you can get it "how it was meant to be seen" for chips we saw what happened with DBOXES/Levels FUNi just can't rely on hardcare fans.
A good remaster isn't gonna be cheap, on top of that although picture maybe uncropped etc the JPN audio issues are still gonna be an issue and we'll still be subjected to that terrible dub aswell. Unless of course they do something like print on demand, that might be the smartest way to go about it actually.
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Dragon Ball Super Meeting (April 1)
The agency is also celebrating the 30th Anniversary of Dragon Ball, with an event dedicated to the brand in which new plans for 2020-21 will be presented alongside Toei Animation and the main partners.
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mentre a chiusura di giornata Starbright proporrà il Dragon Ball super meeting, dove presenterà le principali novità della prossima stagione.
Google translate:Source: https://wearebabynerd.blogspot.com/2019 ... 19-il.htmlwhile at the end of the day Starbright will propose the Dragon Ball super meeting, where it will present the main new features for next season.
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It's my understanding that FUNi had no involvement in the Fathom Events DBZ movie screenings last year.eledoremassis02 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 19, 2019 2:25 pmSeeing as how funi used the uncensored remasters for fathoms, I think it's a good assumption to say we're at least getting the movies(please add ocean audio) Tho I really hope for a better release of the show.TheRed259 wrote:What about Fathom Events?
Do you think they will bring more DBZ Movies in the U.S. theaters?
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'DRAGON BALL' CELEBRATES WHIRLWIND YEAR
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Toei Animation and Funimation have released their annual Dragon Ball franchise report, detailing a whirlwind year chock full of new licensing deals, events, releases and celebrations in support of the 30th anniversary of “Dragon Ball Z.”
2019 marks the 25th anniversary of “Dragon Ball’s” introduction to U.S. and Canadian audiences and the 30th anniversary of the “Dragon Ball Z” anime series.
The celebrations included last year’s release of a new film, Dragon Ball Super: Broly, which earned $30 million at the box office; the North American Dragon Ball Tour, which spanned seven months and showcased exclusive licensed figures as well as electronic games; an appearance at the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade with the debut of a giant-sized Goku helium balloon and successful collaborations with Bioworld (apparel), Adidas (footwear) and Primitive (apparel).
Toei Animation and Funimation have inked a host of new deals including:
Accutime for two new watch collections based on “Dragon Ball Super” and “Dragon Ball Z”;
Underboss for two collections including underwear, sleepwear, swimwear and Mo-Show socks based “Dragon Ball Super” and “Dragon Ball Z”;
Rabbit Tanaka for a collection of tattoo sleeves, dimensional shadow boxes, MDF board signs and tin signs based on “Dragon Ball Super”;
Spirit Halloween for a direct-to-retail collection of adult and children Halloween costumes and accessories based on “Dragon Ball Super”;
Traly for a collection of enamel pins for Target based on “Dragon Ball Z”;
Fusion FG for a collection of fighting gi, rash guards, spats and fighting shorts based on “Dragon Ball Z”;
Ground Up for a collection of casual footwear, seasonal footwear, sandals, slides, flip flops and slippers based on “Dragon Ball Z”;
Party City for two direct-to-retail collections of adult and children Halloween costumes and accessories based on “Dragon Ball Super” and “Dragon Ball Z”;
Primitive Skate Company for a new co-branded collection based on “Dragon ¬Ball Super”;
Naked and Famous for a co-branded Dragon Ball Z x Naked and Famous collection of denim pants and jackets based on “Dragon Ball Z” and
Transworld Entertainment for a direct-to-retail collection of consumables, confectioneries, beverages, beauty products, soap, bath bombs and scents based on “Dragon Ball Z.”
Looking ahead to June, Toei Animation and Funimation will be actively seeking new partners at Licensing Expo 2019 for “Dragon Ball Super” and “Dragon Ball Z”-themed merchandise in a variety of categories including pet accessories, bedding, health and beauty.
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Yeah, this attitude being taken by Toei and Funi has always really annoyed me. Can they actually celebrate and recognise the whole original run, not just the middle 300 episodes?
Still, maybe once they've got the new Z remaster out, DB and GT will follow along. And hey, who knows, maybe Funi will even import their remasters this time around.
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Nice. Hey guys, if the Blu-ray set isn't made or ends up being a piece of crap, at least we'll still have our pet accessories, bedding, and health and beauty products.pet accessories, bedding, health and beauty