Season Set Flaws - GET OVER IT!!!

[Jerseymilk]

Here's a question: What's more important - the story, or useless footage. I care more about the story than footage.

Actually what's most important to me, is not being lied to with craptalk and Funi thinking of me as a gullible twit that will believe whatever jargon they cough up. Seriously, that's not showing much respect for your customers. You know, the people that you *rely on* to buy your product and keep you in business? To me, if I bought these sets, it would be like I'm playing into their little game and accepting the disrespect they've shown me. As I said to you in that other thread, it's the principle of the thing.

Let's not also forget that before FMA, Fruits Basket, Trinity Blood, and everything else that they've now got under their roster, Dragonball, was *all* they literally had. (Well okay they had that weird Boar thingy-whatever it was called, but who cared about that?) DBZ was their bread and butter and what helped them grow as a company and we helped them by purchasing their DB products. Then they turn around and show their appreciation by giving us a half-hearted effort of a set. Thanks but no thanks. You're not getting any money from me as a reward for thinking you can cover your cheapskate and inefficient work by taking me for a fool.

[Captain Awesome]

As a fan of Dbz, it's always bugged me that I've been unable to collect the entire series on dvd, I blew money on edited dub only singles, then I paid $100 for the Ultimate Uncut box set.

What annoys me the most is that I know where I can find the episodes on the internet, but I chose to show my support for the series by paying for it.

But like everyone here, I was repaid with 80% of the show I love.
The only thing keeping me buying I guess is the strength of the original source material, and Steve Simmon's great subtitles.

[Bomber Greek]

I just buy them because they're a lot cheaper. Hell, it's less than a dollar an episode. The other releases have like, 3 episodes and are like, 20 bucks. I'd prefer it if they weren't in widescreen, but oh well. It could be worse... probably.

[SonGokuGT]

I'd prefer it if they weren't in widescreen, but oh well. It could be worse... probably.

Yeah, the remastering could be a real hackjob...
Oh, wait...

[ssgOverlord]

I just buy them because they're a lot cheaper. Hell, it's less than a dollar an episode. The other releases have like, 3 episodes and are like, 20 bucks. I'd prefer it if they weren't in widescreen, but oh well. It could be worse... probably.

It's the same as me. Less money for a great quantity is the only reason I'm buying these.

[Tsukento]

Here's a question: What's more important - the story, or useless footage. I care more about the story than footage.

So if the series looked like that of a typical old VHS fansub, you wouldn't care?

If we wanted just a story, we'd listen to radio dramas. Or read novels. But because this is a TELEVISION PROGRAM, visuals play a large role as well. Not to mention, FUNimation has pretty much lied through their teeth about EVERYTHING with these boxsets. We've had professional reviews going into every bit of detail about everything that was wrong with FUNi's claims. We've even had proof that FUNi's screenshots of their "remasters" compared to untouched footage is nothing but doctored up bullshit on Photoshop.

Dragon Ball Z was never meant to be seen with film damage that was not present in the untouched film. Dragon Ball Z was never meant to be seen in widescreen. Dragon Ball Z was never meant to be seen with bleeding colors.

It's as simple as that.

[Super Sonic]

Just thought I'd say some guys do have a hard time letting things go at times. Heck, it's been over ten years, and I still see/hear of hardcore Mega Man fans still complain about the writers of the American cartoon not apparently finishing Mega Man V.

[Kendamu]

We've even had proof that FUNi's screenshots of their "remasters" compared to untouched footage is nothing but doctored up bullshit on Photoshop.

Wait. What?

When did this come up?

[MajinVejitaXV]

We've even had proof that FUNi's screenshots of their "remasters" compared to untouched footage is nothing but doctored up bullshit on Photoshop.

Wait. What?

When did this come up?

The frame rates of the footage and the "grain" didn't sync on FUNimation's "DragonBall Z: Rebirth" featurette, if memory serves (i.e. - It was added in on top of the "remastered" footage).

-Corey

[VegettoEX]

We've even had proof that FUNi's screenshots of their "remasters" compared to untouched footage is nothing but doctored up bullshit on Photoshop.

Wait. What?

When did this come up?

In our review of the first season set in Episode #0065 of the podcast. As a video expert, Jeff immediately noticed that in FUNimation's behind-the-scenes trailer, their split-screen footage of the original/remastered clearly has the "grain" moving at a faster frame-rate than that of the actual video stream behind it... it's a complete fabrication.

[b_boult]

Haha, fucking hell. Surely that would be illegal in some form or another over there? I mean it's one thing to crop the show and come out with slogans like "as originally intended", though you could argue this is merely narrative license, but that picture is obviously a very calculated lie, and deliberate attempt to mislead people.

[DemonKingPiccolo]

I agree with desirecambell, but I mostly agree with Bomber Greek. It's much cheaper to by the flawed boxsets then paying for the individual DVDs.

If I ever find out who invented widescreen and applied it to non-widescreen shows, I'll kill the bastard (not literally now). I've always been quite pissed that EVERYTHING these days just HAS to be in widescreen.

It's like every movie/show that you buy on DVD is in widescreen. I (along with quite a few other people) DON'T HAVE A WIDESCREEN TV!! What the hell would I want a wide-screen DVD for?
I'd much rather but DBZ in full screen, because THAT was the way is was meant to be seen (the jack-offs at Funimation lie through their teeth.)

Also an off subject note: And just what the hell is up with High Definition TV? Are people honestly that bored with their television sets that they need a life-like viewing experience to satisfy their needs? Hell, if they're that bored with it, might as well not even have the damn thing. Here's a place where you can get a life-like viewing experience:...OUTDOORS! Hell, you can touch the thing for that "extra viewing experience", and it's FREE!

[MajinVejitaXV]

It's like every movie/show that you buy on DVD is in widescreen. I (along with quite a few other people) DON'T HAVE A WIDESCREEN TV!! What the hell would I want a wide-screen DVD for?

So you can see the entire picture, as filmed by the director.

Also an off subject note: And just what the hell is up with High Definition TV? Are people honestly that bored with their television sets that they need a life-like viewing experience to satisfy their needs?

...something like that. I take it you're against anything beyond monaural sound as well?

-Corey

[Captain Awesome]

I hate the moronic assumption that 16:9 is more cinematic.

There is nothing more cinematic about an aspect ratio, it's up to the director, the cinematographer, the people making the film to ensure when they film in widescreen, they actually use it to it's fullest.
Not to mention that as HD becomes the new standard, many studios (television) while shooting in 16:9 are still framing 4:3 safe, so those without widescreen can still view it when it's broadcast, without losing anything important.

Widescreen is great when it's used properly, cropping 4:3 to 16:9 isn't properly

[desirecampbell]

I hate the moronic assumption that 16:9 is more cinematic.

The wider the screen, the easier it is to do more drastic angles with the extra space. It is more "cinematic' because cinemas use widescreen (because it's easier to go wide than tall) but by no means does making something wider make it artistically "better".

The best reason to move to a wide screen is the same reason movie theatres use widescreen - your walls are wider than they are tall -so use the whole space.

That's the important part: "use the whole", not "cut off parts until you like the aspect ratio".

[Captain Awesome]

The wider the screen, the easier it is to do more drastic angles with the extra space.

My whole point was, this isn't actually done much more often than you think, shooting in 16:9 but framing in 4:3 safe ensures that the most "drastic" angle you will get is a wide shot with all of the characters/things of relevance right smack bang in the middle, it would surprise how many television shows actually do this.

I'm a film student, and I shoot in widescreen when I can (when the equipment isn't booked out ) it's just that I'm just sick of seeing it not being used properly, time and time again (This Funi release taking the cake).

[ETC123]

Also an off subject note: And just what the hell is up with High Definition TV? Are people honestly that bored with their television sets that they need a life-like viewing experience to satisfy their needs? Hell, if they're that bored with it, might as well not even have the damn thing. Here's a place where you can get a life-like viewing experience:...OUTDOORS! Hell, you can touch the thing for that "extra viewing experience", and it's FREE!

DVD cannot contain the entire resolution that a normal film (or something on 35 mm film or whatever) can actually offer. Infact, nor can things such as Bluray, but it's a huge step over ordinary DVD in terms of quality if you're willing to accept such things.

We're not all porn feinds and this kind of anti-technology claptrap was around when people considered VHS the one and only thing and DVD no more than some rich boys toy.

[Xyex]

I'd prefer it if they weren't in widescreen, but oh well. It could be worse... probably.

Yeah, the remastering could be a real hackjob...
Oh, wait...

No, it could be worse. FUNi could have realeased a dub only cut version and *just* that. >.>

[SonGokuGT]

I'd prefer it if they weren't in widescreen, but oh well. It could be worse... probably.

Yeah, the remastering could be a real hackjob...
Oh, wait...

No, it could be worse. FUNi could have realeased a dub only cut version and *just* that. >.>

Like that's going to happen in this day and age with the anime market the way it is.

[Xyex]

Yeah, the remastering could be a real hackjob...
Oh, wait...

No, it could be worse. FUNi could have realeased a dub only cut version and *just* that. >.>

Like that's going to happen in this day and age with the anime market the way it is.

Yeah, it'd never happen. Just like a dubbing company would never crop a 4:3 series into widescreen format. Oh, wait...