dragon boss z wrote:PFM18 wrote:The multiplier for SSj3 is 4x SSJ2. Whether it works for you or not that is the case. We don't necessarily NEED a multiplier, we can work around a UI multipler. It is a matter of whether you think that 2nd UI Omen -> UI is more or less than a 4x difference. If you think it is less than 4x, then Kefla has more strength otherwise Goku would be more powerful. Either way, Goku has the X-factor of being able to move without thinking. I think Limit Breaker Jiren or any of the GoDs wouldn't be able to stop her as a SSJ3 though. Especially since it was stated 3rd UI Omen ~ Beerus and Beerus is probably atleast an average GoD. So I think it looks like this:
UI Goku>=SSJ3 Kefla>Limit Breaker Jiren>Full-Power Jiren>Gods of Destruction>=3rd UI Omen Goku
The multipliers are not 100% law for every instance. They aren't even stated in the actual manga or anime and the only one actually stated by Toriyama himself was the 50x one and he said he originally intended it for be a x10 multiplier. Ssj2 teen Gohan was even stated to be at half power but was clearly stronger than he was as a ssj, so for at least that instance, maybe due to Gohan's rage boost, his ssj2 was more than a x2 multiplier. So you can't just say, because of the multipliers it has to be this way, especially since we don't even know ssj2 Kefla's true power. Imo she is probably weaker than SSBE Vegeta (after pride boost) and GoD Toppo, and possibly end of ToP SSB kkx20 Goku. Plot is the main driving point in how power levels go, and that goes even more for Super which doesn't make sense half the time. By your logic Goku going ssj2 should make him 100x stronger, yet his base form was matching ssj2 Caulifla, and after going ssj2 he only did a bit better. Going by Z logic, a 100x boost should of allowed him to snap her out of existence if he wanted to.
I mean Goku being able to fight Caulifla in base was very thoroughly explained in the story. Some people dont like the explanation but the story made it clear that caulifla had a huge power advantage but Gokus fighting experience and skills gave him the edge. Then Caulifla adjusted to goku's fighting style and he was forced to go SSJ2 to match it. And SSJ2 Kefla is already far stronger than SSBE Vegeta even after his rage boost and GoD Tpppo also. She was on par with the 2nd Omen.