The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Rocketman » Sat Feb 04, 2012 2:31 am

Piccolo Daimao wrote:could this suggest that Kaioushin could actually be strong enough to be a threat for Boo that he'd need to absorb him?

Or am I, like many others, over-analyzing this quote, it's not as if anyone completely understands Boo's unpredictable mind but him and he was just basically trying to say that Kaioushin wouldn't do shit against Boo and, if worst comes to worst, could even get absorbed by him for whatever reason (maybe Boo would just do it for the hell of it).


There is the possibility that Kibitokai is strong enough to fight Buu, but Elder Kai is keeping him as the reserve in case things go horribly wrong from Goku and Gohan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Piccolo Daimao » Sat Feb 04, 2012 1:56 pm

In Brightest Day wrote:Yamcha vs. Chaozu and Yajirobe in the Saiyan arc.


Yajirobe didn't take the training seriously, therefore he's much weaker than Yamcha and Chaozu. So it comes down to whether or not Chaozu can paralyze Yamcha. Since I think that Yamcha, being much stronger than him, is fast enough to dodge Chaozu's attempted paralysis attempts, he'd quickly defeat Chaozu.

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Piccolo Daimao wrote:could this suggest that Kaioushin could actually be strong enough to be a threat for Boo that he'd need to absorb him?

Or am I, like many others, over-analyzing this quote, it's not as if anyone completely understands Boo's unpredictable mind but him and he was just basically trying to say that Kaioushin wouldn't do shit against Boo and, if worst comes to worst, could even get absorbed by him for whatever reason (maybe Boo would just do it for the hell of it).


There is the possibility that Kibitokai is strong enough to fight Buu, but Elder Kai is keeping him as the reserve in case things go horribly wrong from Goku and Gohan.


That's an interesting theory. But then, wouldn't the old Kaioushin have suggested that Kibitoshin would fight Kid Boo, who was now even weaker than Gotenks-Boo? Or not, since Gokuu and Vegeta were pretty confident that they wanted to do it themselves?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby dprez » Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:45 pm

Piccolo Daimao wrote:Kibitoshin vs. Super Saiyan 3 Son Gokuu (alive).


Goku is way, way to strong. Kibitoshin may be around Ssj2 level at best. He was super excited about his power and felt he could actually do something now, but neither him now Kibito were even Ssj level. No way their fusion propels them to such strength.

In Brightest Day wrote:Yamcha vs. Chaozu and Yajirobe in the Saiyan arc.


Yamcha would lose like he always does. Tough I believe he does have a good chance to win, two against one is too much for him I think, plus Yajirobe has his sword and Chaotzu his telekinesis.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Silkman3003 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 9:32 pm

Lssj Broly(Movie 8 ) vs Full Power Perfect Cell vs Final Form Bojack.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Kaboom » Sun Feb 05, 2012 10:29 pm

All three are practically equals in power as far as I'm concerned. But in a free-for-all melee, Cell eventually wins due to having the best brains and array of techniques. His regeneration would be a bitch for either of the other two to deal with, too.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Mystic Gohan » Sun Feb 05, 2012 11:24 pm

Bojack stomps, he took a punch straight to his stomach from a BL gohan much better than cell did and much better than broly would.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Hades » Mon Feb 06, 2012 9:49 am

Bojack and his gang vs the Kaioshins
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Pantalones » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:32 am

Well, if you assume that the South and Dai Kaioshins were strong enough to fight Kid Buu (implied by Buu absorbing instead of killing them, and also by "South Kaioshin Buu's" noticeably increased strength over regular Super Buu), Bojack's gang is absolutely screwed.

Bojack at least should be able to take out the East Kaioshin, though. Maybe North or West also, depending on just how much stronger they are than the East (and exactly how strong the East is to begin with; presumably he would've been even weaker while the others were alive than he is now.) But if South and Dai Kaioshin are anywhere near Kid Buu (or any Buu, really), there's no way Bojack and his gang have even the tiniest chance against them.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Feb 06, 2012 10:33 am

Hades wrote:Bojack and his gang vs the Kaioshins

They have South Kaioshin with them, whou could stand against Pure Boo, so I suppose the Bojack Gang gets beaten eventualy.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Silkman3003 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:14 pm

Trunks(End of Cell saga) vs Supreme Kai.

Who gets stomped?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby dprez » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:20 pm

Supreme Kai gets stomped. Trunks is to powerful. I think Kaioshin is maybe around Imperfect Cell-Super Vegeta level, and even with some of his special techniques, Trunks Ssj form is to strong for Kaioshin to handle.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Kaboom » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:32 pm

I don't have any real direct comparison between them, but I think they'd be close in power. But Kaioshin is a wuss, and Trunks isn't. Even if Kaioshin can use his paralysis trick on him or something, I doubt whether he'd even be able to attack at the same time, so all he might be able to do with it is stall.

Trunks wins one way or another.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Mystic Gohan » Tue Feb 07, 2012 7:58 pm

I got kaioshin rivaling the nameless namek, so trunks gets to stomp on someone besides androids.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Saiga » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:37 pm

I've got Kaioshin higher than Piccolo and even with base Goku... so I really need to work on my power levels. :lol:

Ignoring that, I'd say Super Saiyan Full Power Trunks would be more than enough for Kaioshin.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Tue Feb 07, 2012 8:52 pm

Since I believe Kaioshin is the more powerful one here, I don't see Trunks winning. I could actually see Kaioshin's kiai being enough to take Trunks out.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby FNF » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:36 pm

Trunks is already at least rivaling c18 in his regular form. Kaioshin, who claimed he could only pin down Babidi of all people [when he was most confident], would get decimated by SSjin Trunks.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby CatouttaHell » Tue Feb 07, 2012 9:50 pm

FNF wrote:Trunks is already at least rivaling c18 in his regular form.
This is Cell Games Trunks, not Chibi Trunks. Cell Games Trunks had to go SSjin just to fight Future No. 17 and 18.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby FNF » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:03 pm

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FNF wrote:Trunks is already at least rivaling c18 in his regular form.
This is Cell Games Trunks, not Chibi Trunks. Cell Games Trunks had to go SSjin just to fight Future No. 17 and 18.

Goofed.

I still think Trunks has the edge by a county mile. He's still stronger than 50% Goku who should be significantly stronger than Kaioshin.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby CatouttaHell » Tue Feb 07, 2012 10:12 pm

FNF wrote:Goofed.

I still think Trunks has the edge by a county mile. He's still stronger than 50% Goku who should be significantly stronger than Kaioshin.
Agreed. Kaioshin should be below Pui-Pui, who is fodder to even Base Teen Gohan IMO.

Kaioshin vs. Base Cell Games Trunks would be a better match.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Postby Fox666 » Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:23 pm

You think that during the Cell Games, Trunks should be able to defeat Piccolo without transforming in Super Saiyan?


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