The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:28 pm

ricky84 wrote: Just look at the sheer ease of how base Copy-Vegeta dominated SSJ3 Gotenks. You are the one using headcanon if you believe the gap in power isn't big. If it wasn't then SSJ3 would have put up a much better fight, logically.
If Commeson Vegeta was dimensions apart from Gotenks then the later would have defuse after a few hits, he didn't. He lasted the full 5 minutes of the fusion meaning he can at least endure fighting him for that long.

How hard is this to understand?

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Post by RecolorSaiyan » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:14 pm

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:
RecolorSaiyan wrote:1.) Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs RoF Golden Freeza
2.) a17 (dbs manga) vs super vegetto (buu saga)
3.) SSB Vegeta (pre episode 122) vs Base Toppo
1) Freeza with mid diff. He's on pair with CSSJB Goku, who's still stronger than Gohan according to Kuririn.
2) 17 finger clicks. Goku is likely above Vegetto in upper forms by now.
3) Pass.

RoF Golden freeza is on par with CSSB Goku?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 7:56 pm

RecolorSaiyan wrote:RoF Golden freeza is on par with CSSB Goku?
Misread it.

I think Gohan would win easily. I don't see him being far below PSSJB tier based on his fight with Kefla, who even before merging could fight Goku a bit.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by PFM18 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:15 pm

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:
RecolorSaiyan wrote:1.) Ultimate Gohan (ToP) vs RoF Golden Freeza
2.) a17 (dbs manga) vs super vegetto (buu saga)
3.) SSB Vegeta (pre episode 122) vs Base Toppo
1) Freeza with mid diff. He's on pair with CSSJB Goku, who's still stronger than Gohan according to Kuririn.
2) 17 finger clicks. Goku is likely above Vegetto in upper forms by now.
3) Pass.
Why pass?

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Post by ricky84 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:18 pm

ZombieVito wrote:
ricky84 wrote: Just look at the sheer ease of how base Copy-Vegeta dominated SSJ3 Gotenks. You are the one using headcanon if you believe the gap in power isn't big. If it wasn't then SSJ3 would have put up a much better fight, logically.
If Commeson Vegeta was dimensions apart from Gotenks then the later would have defuse after a few hits, he didn't. He lasted the full 5 minutes of the fusion meaning he can at least endure fighting him for that long.

How hard is this to understand?
That's some pretty bad arguments. You are forgetting that base Commeson Vegeta was basically toying with him, so he obviously didn't use that much power on him. If he went all out on Gotenks then you would have an argument, but not in this case.
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Post by GreatSaiyaman123 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:21 pm

PFM18 wrote:Why pass?
Because i have no clue about who would win. I barely mind watching the anime, let alone it's power scaling.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:30 pm

ricky84 wrote: That's some pretty bad arguments. You are forgetting that base Commeson Vegeta was basically toying with him, so he obviously didn't use that much power on him. If he went all out on Gotenks then you would have an argument, but not in this case.
He wanted to kill him...

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Post by Ssjcell » Tue Sep 18, 2018 10:59 pm

Grandpa Gohan vs ox king
Videl vs beginning of db Goku one hand tied behind his back
Chi chi Beginning of dbz vs master roshi
Lunch no weapons vs nam

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Post by ricky84 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:21 pm

ZombieVito wrote:
ricky84 wrote: That's some pretty bad arguments. You are forgetting that base Commeson Vegeta was basically toying with him, so he obviously didn't use that much power on him. If he went all out on Gotenks then you would have an argument, but not in this case.
He wanted to kill him...
Freeza on Namek wanted to kill the Z-crew yet didn't anywhere near his full power until Goku went SSJ.
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Post by ricky84 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:22 pm

Ssjcell wrote:Grandpa Gohan vs ox king
Videl vs beginning of db Goku one hand tied behind his back
Chi chi Beginning of dbz vs master roshi
Lunch no weapons vs nam
1. Grandpa Gohan with ease (was relative to Roshi)
2. Videl one shots
3. Roshi, mid-difficulty
4. Nam stomps
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by PFM18 » Tue Sep 18, 2018 11:36 pm

GreatSaiyaman123 wrote:
PFM18 wrote:Why pass?
Because i have no clue about who would win. I barely mind watching the anime, let alone it's power scaling.
is this like a recent development or something?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by PFM18 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 1:23 am

Ssjcell wrote:Grandpa Gohan vs ox king
Videl vs beginning of db Goku one hand tied behind his back
Chi chi Beginning of dbz vs master roshi
Lunch no weapons vs nam
ok, these are really interesting and creative and I just wanted to say I appreciate that

Gohan wins on account of better skill
Goku wins with the slightest edge
Roshi one shots
Name wins

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Post by SSJ Vegetto » Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:16 pm

Ssjcell wrote:Grandpa Gohan vs ox king
Videl vs beginning of db Goku one hand tied behind his back
Chi chi Beginning of dbz vs master roshi
Lunch no weapons vs nam
1. Grandpa Gohan was way stronger than Ox King and his power was comparable to Post Karin Goku.
2. Videl after training with gohan.
3. Master Roshi should win basing on PLs.
4. Namu easy win.
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Post by Ssjcell » Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:04 pm

18 year old roshi vs 18 year old crane hermit
18 year old tao vs 18 year old Grandpa Gohan
Kid Piccolo (popo saga) vs Tien 22 world martial arts tournament
Kuririn 23rd martial arts vs yamcha 23rd martial arts
Chi chi 23rd martial arts tournament vs Goku 21st martial arts tournament

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Post by SSJ Vegetto » Thu Sep 20, 2018 10:55 am

1. Vegeta(Saiyan Arc) Vs Pui Pui
2. Yakon Vs Freeza
3. Grandpa Gohan vs Tao Pai Pai
4. Broly Vs Super Perfect Cell
5. Goku(Beerus Arc) Vs Gohan (Post Z-Sword)
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Post by ricky84 » Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:26 am

SSJ Vegetto wrote:1. Vegeta(Saiyan Arc) Vs Pui Pui
2. Yakon Vs Freeza
3. Grandpa Gohan vs Tao Pai Pai
4. Broly Vs Super Perfect Cell
5. Goku(Beerus Arc) Vs Gohan (Post Z-Sword)
Pui Pui
Yakon
Tao
Broly
Goku
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Post by Ssjcell » Thu Sep 20, 2018 2:21 pm

SSJ Vegetto wrote:1. Vegeta(Saiyan Arc) Vs Pui Pui
2. Yakon Vs Freeza
3. Grandpa Gohan vs Tao Pai Pai
4. Broly Vs Super Perfect Cell
5. Goku(Beerus Arc) Vs Gohan (Post Z-Sword)
Pui pui I have him at 50 percent frieza
Yakon
Grandpa Gohan
SPC
Goku by a lot if he uses ssj3

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Post by Nevaeh » Fri Sep 21, 2018 12:00 pm

Goku Black vs Movie Beerus
EoZ SSJ Goku vs Buuhan (pre-Super)
SSJ3 Gogeta instead of SSJ4 vs Omega Shenron
U6 arc Frost at 100% vs SSJ Goku

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Post by RecolorSaiyan » Fri Sep 21, 2018 2:38 pm

Nevaeh wrote:Goku Black vs Movie Beerus
EoZ SSJ Goku vs Buuhan (pre-Super)
SSJ3 Gogeta instead of SSJ4 vs Omega Shenron
U6 arc Frost at 100% vs SSJ Goku
Goku Black stomps
Buuhan
Omega Shenron
Ssj Goku

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragon boss z » Fri Sep 21, 2018 3:08 pm

Ssjcell wrote:Grandpa Gohan vs ox king
Videl vs beginning of db Goku one hand tied behind his back
Chi chi Beginning of dbz vs master roshi
Lunch no weapons vs nam
-Gohan easily
-I guess Goku because he is physically stronger by quite a bit.
-Roshi easily.
-Nam kills her with one shot.
ricky84 wrote: 2. Videl one shots
How does Videl one shot kid Goku? He was bullet proof and could lift cars.
Ssjcell wrote:18 year old roshi vs 18 year old crane hermit
18 year old tao vs 18 year old Grandpa Gohan
Kid Piccolo (popo saga) vs Tien 22 world martial arts tournament
Kuririn 23rd martial arts vs yamcha 23rd martial arts
Chi chi 23rd martial arts tournament vs Goku 21st martial arts tournament
-idk probably Roshi.
-idk if they even did martial arts at that age.
-kid Piccolo is featless, so Tien wins.
-Krillin since he actually gave Piccolo a bit of a fight while Yamcha got stomped by Kami, who was weaker than Piccolo, and nicer as well meaning he probably held back more.
-Goku pretty easily imo.
SSJ Vegetto wrote:1. Vegeta(Saiyan Arc) Vs Pui Pui
2. Yakon Vs Freeza
3. Grandpa Gohan vs Tao Pai Pai
4. Broly Vs Super Perfect Cell
5. Goku(Beerus Arc) Vs Gohan (Post Z-Sword)
1. Could go either way, but I'll give Vegeta the edge due to his galic gun and great ape form.
2. Frieza, he is way smarter, and has way more techniques.
3. Grandpa Gohan with some difficulty. He did pretty well against the Goku that beat Tao decisively.
4. Broly wasn't even damaged by the same attack that ripped Cell's upper body off, so him.
5. Goku, even Z Goku would win before Gohan got his ultimate power up.
Nevaeh wrote:Goku Black vs Movie Beerus
EoZ SSJ Goku vs Buuhan (pre-Super)
SSJ3 Gogeta instead of SSJ4 vs Omega Shenron
U6 arc Frost at 100% vs SSJ Goku
-Beerus should still be stronger since Whis said it would take both SSB Goku and Vegeta at the same time to have a chance in RoF.
-Without considering super at all, then Buuhan.
-pass
-Goku still wins

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