The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Myzt0gun » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:37 am

dragon boss z wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Ultimate mode Katopesla runs a gauntlet
1.Basil
2.lavender
3.base bergamo (no damage soak)
4.Frost
5.Monna
6.piccolo (no SBC)

U6 saiyans gauntlet
1)Ssj cabba
2) ssj caulifla
3).Ssj kale
Based off of his fight with ssj Vegita I wouldn't be surprised if he could beat all of them. Though I also wouldn't be surprised if he went down to anyone here either...
Imo,
1.) Wins Mid Difficulty (If Basil got Drugs) but if none then Katopesla wins Low Difficulty
2.) If his speed increase he just needs to avoid getting poisoned, and Low Difficulty but if he was poisoned then its a Draw
3.) Bergamo (No Damage Soak) is just a little stronger than his brothers, so probably Mid Difficulty
4.) Frost is weaker than Bergamo (No Damage Soak), so Low to Mid Difficulty also
5.) Mid to High Difficulty, because she was defeating Cabba SSJ1 (but imo Base Vegeta is still stronger than SSJ1 Cabba so it can also be Low Difficulty)
6.) Probably Mid to High Difficulty as well, because Piccolo is a smart fighter

U6
1.) Low to Mid Difficulty (But SSJ2 Cabba might win)
2.) Just Like Cabba
3.) Extreme Difficulty because SSJ1 Kale (controlled) is near the level of Vegeta SSJ1

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragon boss z » Mon Dec 11, 2017 3:51 am

Myzt0gun wrote:
dragon boss z wrote:
pacz360 wrote:Ultimate mode Katopesla runs a gauntlet
1.Basil
2.lavender
3.base bergamo (no damage soak)
4.Frost
5.Monna
6.piccolo (no SBC)

U6 saiyans gauntlet
1)Ssj cabba
2) ssj caulifla
3).Ssj kale
Based off of his fight with ssj Vegita I wouldn't be surprised if he could beat all of them. Though I also wouldn't be surprised if he went down to anyone here either...
Imo,
1.) Wins Mid Difficulty (If Basil got Drugs) but if none then Katopesla wins Low Difficulty
2.) If his speed increase he just needs to avoid getting poisoned, and Low Difficulty but if he was poisoned then its a Draw
3.) Bergamo (No Damage Soak) is just a little stronger than his brothers, so probably Mid Difficulty
4.) Frost is weaker than Bergamo (No Damage Soak), so Low to Mid Difficulty also
5.) Mid to High Difficulty, because she was defeating Cabba SSJ1 (but imo Base Vegeta is still stronger than SSJ1 Cabba so it can also be Low Difficulty)
6.) Probably Mid to High Difficulty as well, because Piccolo is a smart fighter

U6
1.) Low to Mid Difficulty (But SSJ2 Cabba might win)
2.) Just Like Cabba
3.) Extreme Difficulty because SSJ1 Kale (controlled) is near the level of Vegeta SSJ1
I pretty much agree with what you are saying. The only problem I see is that since Katoplesa isn't an important character they might have him job if he ever fought one of the U6 saiyans or Piccolo. But off of his fight with Vegeta, ya I pretty much agree with what you are saying.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by AvatarReiko » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:10 am

Piccolo vs Ant-Man

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Myzt0gun » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:16 am

dragon boss z wrote:
Myzt0gun wrote:
dragon boss z wrote:
Based off of his fight with ssj Vegita I wouldn't be surprised if he could beat all of them. Though I also wouldn't be surprised if he went down to anyone here either...
Imo,
1.) Wins Mid Difficulty (If Basil got Drugs) but if none then Katopesla wins Low Difficulty
2.) If his speed increase he just needs to avoid getting poisoned, and Low Difficulty but if he was poisoned then its a Draw
3.) Bergamo (No Damage Soak) is just a little stronger than his brothers, so probably Mid Difficulty
4.) Frost is weaker than Bergamo (No Damage Soak), so Low to Mid Difficulty also
5.) Mid to High Difficulty, because she was defeating Cabba SSJ1 (but imo Base Vegeta is still stronger than SSJ1 Cabba so it can also be Low Difficulty)
6.) Probably Mid to High Difficulty as well, because Piccolo is a smart fighter

U6
1.) Low to Mid Difficulty (But SSJ2 Cabba might win)
2.) Just Like Cabba
3.) Extreme Difficulty because SSJ1 Kale (controlled) is near the level of Vegeta SSJ1
I pretty much agree with what you are saying. The only problem I see is that since Katoplesa isn't an important character they might have him job if he ever fought one of the U6 saiyans or Piccolo. But off of his fight with Vegeta, ya I pretty much agree with what you are saying.
Yeah, if u pay close attention, he was treated as a jobber in his first appearances (Frieza easily blasting him away with one hand, even Hop who was weaker than the Trio De Dangers was fighting on par with him) and lets not forget Frieza doesn't even give a fuck when he introduced one of his form hahah
Besides we are only assuming he is near or equal SSJ1 Vegeta because he manage to hold his own for a short time against him

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Roronoa-pt » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:31 pm

AvatarReiko wrote:Piccolo vs Ant-Man
Ant-Man hasn't the physical strenght to send Piccolo flying as Damon did. He would eventually find out, as #17, how to squash him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:51 pm

Roronoa-pt wrote:
AvatarReiko wrote:Piccolo vs Ant-Man
Ant-Man hasn't the physical strenght to send Piccolo flying as Damon did. He would eventually find out, as #17, how to squash him.
Well he could win by using Pym particles to shrink Piccolo to subatomic size, if he gets the chance. Or if he could get inside of his body and damage his brain, but that's a long shot.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Dragon Ball Gus » Mon Dec 11, 2017 2:08 pm

Kefla vs Merged Zamasu (Not Half-Corrupted Zamasu)
Caulifla best girl! :)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:54 pm

Dragon Ball Gus wrote:Kefla vs Merged Zamasu (Not Half-Corrupted Zamasu)
Merged Zamasu gets one-shotted but survives thanks to his immortality. He continues getting one-shotted repeatedly until her fusion runs out.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 11, 2017 4:57 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Roronoa-pt wrote:
AvatarReiko wrote:Piccolo vs Ant-Man
Ant-Man hasn't the physical strenght to send Piccolo flying as Damon did. He would eventually find out, as #17, how to squash him.
Well he could win by using Pym particles to shrink Piccolo to subatomic size, if he gets the chance. Or if he could get inside of his body and damage his brain, but that's a long shot.

Anyway, Jiren vs. Quitela.
Wait, aren't shrunken objects supposed to retain their mass?

Jiren, Quitela's only hope is Hakai and that would be totally ineffective since Goku and Frieza who are far weaker than him can resist it.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:39 pm

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Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Roronoa-pt wrote:
Ant-Man hasn't the physical strenght to send Piccolo flying as Damon did. He would eventually find out, as #17, how to squash him.
Well he could win by using Pym particles to shrink Piccolo to subatomic size, if he gets the chance. Or if he could get inside of his body and damage his brain, but that's a long shot.

Anyway, Jiren vs. Quitela.
Wait, aren't shrunken objects supposed to retain their mass?

Jiren, Quitela's only hope is Hakai and that would be totally ineffective since Goku and Frieza who are far weaker than him can resist it.
Well sometimes they do and sometimes they don't. It's kind of inconsistent but I think the user can choose.

Anyway, where do you get the idea that Jiren is stronger than Quitela? Just because Whis said he was 'like a Hakaishin, or maybe beyond' doesn't make him automatically stronger than any of the Hakaishin.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Myzt0gun » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:41 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Roronoa-pt wrote:
Ant-Man hasn't the physical strenght to send Piccolo flying as Damon did. He would eventually find out, as #17, how to squash him.
Well he could win by using Pym particles to shrink Piccolo to subatomic size, if he gets the chance. Or if he could get inside of his body and damage his brain, but that's a long shot.

Anyway, Jiren vs. Quitela.
Wait, aren't shrunken objects supposed to retain their mass?

Jiren, Quitela's only hope is Hakai and that would be totally ineffective since Goku and Frieza who are far weaker than him can resist it.
I think Jiren is overhyped in the anime, In the manga Toppo stated Jiren is stronger than Belmod as a fighter only
It makes me think that G.o.Ds have more stronger abilities, not just Hakai

Belmod (Using God Abilities) > Jiren (Fullpower) > Belmod (Fighter abilities only) > Jiren (Suppressed) > SSBKKx20 Goku

also Beerus > or = Quitela > Belmod > Sidra (in the manga he is a barrier specialist GOD)

Besides, Sidra only gave a Hakai energy on a weak dog fighter, and from what i seen it works differently than Beerus and Sidra's personal Hakai
So its possible that the hakai energy Frieza and Goku resisted was a weaker version

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:42 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote: Anyway, where do you get the idea that Jiren is stronger than Quitela? Just because Whis said he was 'like a Hakaishin, or maybe beyond' doesn't make him automatically stronger than any of the Hakaishin.
Quitela doesn't seem to be anything special in the anime, he's not even the one who beat Beerus at arm wrestling. If he's Beerus' rival he should, much like Beerus, be weaker than Belmond who is in turn weaker than Jiren.
Myzt0gun wrote: I think Jiren is overhyped in the anime, In the manga Toppo stated Jiren is stronger than Belmod as a fighter only
It makes me think that G.o.Ds have more stronger abilities, not just Hakai

Belmod (Using God Abilities) > Jiren (Fullpower) > Belmod (Fighter abilities only) > Jiren (Suppressed) > SSBKKx20 Goku

also Beerus > or = Quitela > Belmod > Sidra (in the manga he is a barrier specialist GOD)

Besides, Sidra only gave a Hakai energy on a weak dog fighter, and from what i seen it works differently than Beerus and Sidra's personal Hakai
So its possible that the hakai energy Frieza and Goku resisted was a weaker version
Jiren (Suppressed) > Belmond.

Belmond says the Spirit Bomb had him worried but Jiren stopped it with ease.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:52 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote: Anyway, where do you get the idea that Jiren is stronger than Quitela? Just because Whis said he was 'like a Hakaishin, or maybe beyond' doesn't make him automatically stronger than any of the Hakaishin.
Quitela doesn't seem to be anything special in the anime, he's not even the one who beat Beerus at arm wrestling. If he's Beerus' rival he should, much like Beerus, be weaker than Belmond who is in turn weaker than Jiren.
Myzt0gun wrote: I think Jiren is overhyped in the anime, In the manga Toppo stated Jiren is stronger than Belmod as a fighter only
It makes me think that G.o.Ds have more stronger abilities, not just Hakai

Belmod (Using God Abilities) > Jiren (Fullpower) > Belmod (Fighter abilities only) > Jiren (Suppressed) > SSBKKx20 Goku

also Beerus > or = Quitela > Belmod > Sidra (in the manga he is a barrier specialist GOD)

Besides, Sidra only gave a Hakai energy on a weak dog fighter, and from what i seen it works differently than Beerus and Sidra's personal Hakai
So its possible that the hakai energy Frieza and Goku resisted was a weaker version
Jiren (Suppressed) > Belmond.

Belmond says the Spirit Bomb had him worried but Jiren stopped it with ease.
Where do you get the idea that Beerus is weaker than Belmod?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 11, 2017 5:54 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote: Where do you get the idea that Beerus is weaker than Belmod?
From Whis' statement that his GoD is stronger than Beerus.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:37 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote: Where do you get the idea that Beerus is weaker than Belmod?
From Whis' statement that his GoD is stronger than Beerus.
I thought that referred to Quitela.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:39 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote: Where do you get the idea that Beerus is weaker than Belmod?
From Whis' statement that his GoD is stronger than Beerus.
I thought that referred to Quitela.
Just another difference between the anime and the manga. Quitela's U4 was full of jobbers and had no one close to GoD level, and Whis himself confirms Jiren was the mortal the rumor was referring to.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:42 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote: From Whis' statement that his GoD is stronger than Beerus.
I thought that referred to Quitela.
Just another difference between the anime and the manga. Quitela's U4 was full of jobbers and had no one close to GoD level, and Whis himself confirms Jiren was the mortal the rumor was referring to.
I actually rank Belmod as one of the weaker Hakaishin and Beerus and Quitela as the two strongest.
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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Mon Dec 11, 2017 6:49 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Polyphase Avatron wrote:
I thought that referred to Quitela.
Just another difference between the anime and the manga. Quitela's U4 was full of jobbers and had no one close to GoD level, and Whis himself confirms Jiren was the mortal the rumor was referring to.
I actually rank Belmod as one of the weaker Hakaishin and Beerus and Quitela as the two strongest.
Maybe in the manga.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Dec 11, 2017 7:34 pm

1) Kid Buu vs. Lavender.

2) General Blue vs. Otokosuki.

3) Jiren vs. Ultra Instinct "Omen" Super 17 (After Safely Absorbing Super Saiyan Blue: 20X Kaioken Goku’s Spirit Bomb).

4) Hasky vs. Sly Cooper.

5) First Form Chilled vs. First Form Frieza (Frieza Saga).

6) Drum (After Namekian Fusion With Tambourine) vs. Raspberry.

7) Majin Dabura vs. Fourth Form King Cold (After Being Possessed By Babidi).

[spoiler]8) King Kai (Potential Unlocked By Grand Elder Guru) vs. Majin Pui Pui.[/spoiler]

9) Super Android 13 vs. Piccolo (Rematch Against Android 17).

10) Semi-Perfect Cell vs. Majin Yakon.

11) First Form Frost (Universe 6 Saga) vs. Bojack (Full Power).

12) God of Destruction Beerus vs. Majin Baby Omega Shenron.

13) True Golden Frieza vs. Toppo.

14) Piccolo Daimaō (Youth Restored) vs. Kami (Youth Restored).

15) Vados vs. Marcarita.

16) Dr. Wheelo (Possessed By Babidi's Dark Magic) vs. Dr. Gero.

17) Lord Slug (Youth Restored) vs. Piccolo (Rematch Against Android 20).

18) Present Zamasu vs. Super 17 (After Safely Absorbing GT Goku’s Universal Spirit Bomb Against Omega Shenron).

19) The Incredible Hulk vs. Majin Spopovich.

20) Omni-King vs. Omni-King Black.

21) Android 16 vs. John Connor (T-3000).

22) Captain Ginyu vs. Tien Shinhan (Cell Games Saga).

23) Grandpa Gohan (Youth Restored) vs. Yamcha (Piccolo Junior Saga).

24) Yamcha (Against Recoome) vs. Vegeta (Against Jeice).

25) Pure Evil Buu vs. Bergamo.

26) Major Metallitron (Dragon Ball: Path to Power) vs. Major Metallitron (Dragon Ball).

27) Monaka vs. Berry (Bardock's Companion).

28) Hell Fighter 17 vs. Damon.

29) Count Chocula-like Frieza Soldier vs. Krillin (Against Nappa).

30) Botamo vs. Infinite (Sonic Forces).

31) Babidi vs. Chi-Chi (Piccolo Junior Saga).

32) Grand Priest vs. Jiren Black.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by SuperDragoon » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:37 am

Because why not:

Jiren (with Katopesla's suit and in Ultimate Mode) vs. the Dragon Ball Multiverse

Who can Jiren NOT beat?

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