The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragon boss z » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:52 am

AvatarReiko wrote:Base Kefla vs 4th Form Frieza(Current)
SSJ Kelfa vs Golden Frieza(ROF)
Kefla wins both rounds. Base Kefla is SSG tier and I think current Golden Frieza could probably edge out over ssj Kefla, but not RoF Frieza, he would gas out too quick.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:31 am

Helios518 wrote:
apex_pretador wrote: Zamasu eventually. Jiren needs a lot of time to conserve his stamina
I'm pretty sure that's why 5milo specified "no time limit" but even then Zamasu isn't even near strong enough to break through Geran's passive meditation shield.
Even present Zamasu was competetive with SS2 Goku and SS1 goku was more than enough to break his "passive ki shield"
Noah wrote:New match:

- Merged Zamasu (full power) vs. current SSJB Goku (can use Kaioken), SSJB Vegeta, Hit (assassin techniques allowed), Dyspo and Toppo
Hit stops his heart and throws him in dimension of time after Goku and Vegeta destroy his time ring.

AvatarReiko wrote:Base Kefla vs 4th Form Frieza(Current)
SSJ Kelfa vs Golden Frieza(ROF)
Kefla stomps

Freeza dies because he can't maintain his power.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:56 am

Noah wrote:New match:

- Merged Zamasu (full power) vs. current SSJB Goku (can use Kaioken), SSJB Vegeta, Hit (assassin techniques allowed), Dyspo and Toppo
Merged Zamasu gets stomped by Goku only. And I would like to know why he never used KK against him in the first place.
AvatarReiko wrote:Base Kefla vs 4th Form Frieza(Current)
SSJ Kelfa vs Golden Frieza(ROF)
- Probably Kefla.
- Whoops, I thought it was current Golden Freeza. In this case, Kefla wins.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Shlugo » Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:35 pm

AvatarReiko wrote:Base Kefla vs 4th Form Frieza(Current)
SSJ Kelfa vs Golden Frieza(ROF)

Kefla stomps. Putting someone around base Goku level against someone who was smacking around SSG Goku is not a fair match in the slightest.

Again Kefla stomps. Current Goku, who is stronger than current Freeza and waaay stronger that ROF Freeza had to use kaioken just to keep up with her, and still got beaten. Not to mention Freeza will be leaking power like crazy.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dragon boss z » Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:30 am

Shlugo wrote:
AvatarReiko wrote:Base Kefla vs 4th Form Frieza(Current)
SSJ Kelfa vs Golden Frieza(ROF)

Kefla stomps. Putting someone around base Goku level against someone who was smacking around SSG Goku is not a fair match in the slightest.

Again Kefla stomps. Current Goku, who is stronger than current Freeza and waaay stronger that ROF Freeza had to use kaioken just to keep up with her, and still got beaten. Not to mention Freeza will be leaking power like crazy.
Goku was tired when fighter her though. I think a full power SSB Goku and true Golden Frieza would at least be on par with ssj Kefla. However you are right, RoF Frieza would run out of gas, though before that he should put up a good fight.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Berserker1921 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 6:55 pm

1. Kefla vs Ssj Rose Black (before getting demolished by Vegeta)?
2. T. Golden Frieza vs Hit (Frieza knows of only the Time-Skip, killing allowed)?
3. Toppo and Dyspo (current) vs Goku and Vegeta (U6 arc)?
4. Jiren vs Kefla, Hit, Frieza, and Vegeta (knock out only)?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Helios518 » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:22 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:1. Kefla vs Ssj Rose Black (before getting demolished by Vegeta)?
2. T. Golden Frieza vs Hit (Frieza knows of only the Time-Skip, killing allowed)?
3. Toppo and Dyspo (current) vs Goku and Vegeta (U6 arc)?
4. Jiren vs Kefla, Hit, Frieza, and Vegeta (knock out only)?
1. Kafla likely gets too cocky and ends up giving Black a power boost then Black proceeds to eviscerate her. Black 8/10

2. Golden Freeza could know the Time-Skip but he may not know how to counter it. Also even if he could counter it, then he would just die to Hit's killing move the same way Goku did because he didn't know about the attack. Hit 9.5/10

3. Toppo & Dyspo body Goku & Vegeta. I'm pretty sure that current SSJB is stronger than even SSJBKKx10 in that arc and Toppo & Dyspo meaning are more than capable of handling those two. Toppo & Dyspo 10/10

4. The best chance that the team has, is if Hit time cages Geran and the others do a combined ki attack at him. But seeing as how Geran's gaze pushed back a Genki-Dama that a SSJBKKx20 was pushing against and the team's combined power doesn't even make half of SSJBKKx20's power, Geran still easily wins this. Geran 10/10.
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Post by Kataphrut » Tue Nov 14, 2017 7:28 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:1. Kefla vs Ssj Rose Black (before getting demolished by Vegeta)?
2. T. Golden Frieza vs Hit (Frieza knows of only the Time-Skip, killing allowed)?
3. Toppo and Dyspo (current) vs Goku and Vegeta (U6 arc)?
4. Jiren vs Kefla, Hit, Frieza, and Vegeta (knock out only)?
1. Tough one. Base Kefla would stand no chance, but Super Saiyan could give him a run for his money. I'll still give it to Black, it's safe to say he's stronger than a tired Goku.
2. If killing's allowed, then Hit's got him. There's a limit to how much knowing about Time Skip can protect you, and Hit was eventually able to surpass Kaioken Blue with it.
3. Only Toppo is Blue level, but if he's on par with current Goku, he should be able to beat both of them without much hassle.
4. If Hit could get Jiren in the time cage again, and the others were somehow able to keep him from getting out, then maybe they could win. But none of these characters are inclined toward teamwork, so Jiren would tear through them.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by apex_pretador » Wed Nov 15, 2017 3:34 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:1. Kefla vs Ssj Rose Black (before getting demolished by Vegeta)?
2. T. Golden Frieza vs Hit (Frieza knows of only the Time-Skip, killing allowed)?
3. Toppo and Dyspo (current) vs Goku and Vegeta (U6 arc)?
4. Jiren vs Kefla, Hit, Frieza, and Vegeta (knock out only)?
1. Kefla wins easily assuming she goes Super Saiyan
2. Hit stops his heart, temporarily, then spams time-skip till Freeza is dead
3. Goku and vegeta. Toppo might be their level but Dyspo isn't. His fight against Hit was an outlier for him.
4. Still Jiren. Neither of them matters, except maybe hit, unless Freeza is hiding something.
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Post by AvatarReiko » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:57 pm

SSJ Cabba vs 4th Form Frieza (ROF)
SSJ3 Goku vs 17
SSJ2 Caulifa vs Future Zamasu (No immortality)
Future Zamasu vs Buuhan

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Post by Zamasu55 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:13 pm

Berserker1921 wrote:1. Kefla vs Ssj Rose Black (before getting demolished by Vegeta)?
2. T. Golden Frieza vs Hit (Frieza knows of only the Time-Skip, killing allowed)?
3. Toppo and Dyspo (current) vs Goku and Vegeta (U6 arc)?
4. Jiren vs Kefla, Hit, Frieza, and Vegeta (knock out only)?
- Kefla was even with a tired SsjB Goku. So, unless he got so strong since the last arc that his tired form's above Goku Black, the latter wins.
- I don't know why, but Hit fought "differently" in the tournament. Remember him against Goku during that mini arc? He was much better. Anyway, Hit wins because he was stated to be the third strongest warrior on the ring by Jiren himself.
- Toppo solos.
- The strongest amongst them (Hit) got stomped by Jiren, who broke his cage of time with ease. That's it I guess.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Zamasu55 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:18 pm

AvatarReiko wrote:SSJ Cabba vs 4th Form Frieza (ROF)
SSJ3 Goku vs 17
SSJ2 Caulifa vs Future Zamasu (No immortality)
Future Zamasu vs Buuhan
- Freeza wins. And honestly, I don't know why he used Golden to beat him. It was meaningless (as he said).
- 17 wins.
- Anime Future Zamasu should win, as he was a match for both SsjB's and Ssj Ikari. Ssj2 Caulifla isn't in the slightest.
- Future Zamasu is immortal and SsjB tier. So, he annihilates Buuhan.

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Post by dragon boss z » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:55 pm

Noah wrote:- Strongest character 'Android #35' could beat?
I feel like they would be around base Kafla level.

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Post by AvatarReiko » Sat Nov 18, 2017 4:36 pm

Goku Black vs SSJ Vegito(Buu Arc)
SSJR Black vs Base Kafla
SSJ4 Goku vs SSJ Goku(Current)

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Helios518 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 5:00 pm

AvatarReiko wrote:Goku Black vs SSJ Vegito(Buu Arc)
SSJR Black vs Base Kafla
SSJ4 Goku vs SSJ Goku(Current)
Even if you want to low ball FTArc base Goku to equal Boo Arc Vegetto, that would still mean that Base Black is at the very least as strong as Boo Arc SSJ2 Vegetto. Black wins 10/10

SSJR Black eviscerates SSJBerserk Kafla let alone Base Kafla.

Hmm, I give it to SSJ4 Goku 7/10.
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Post by SuperDragoon » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:07 pm

How would the following rank in terms of strength?
1. Beerus
2. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto
3. Fusion Zamasu
4. Ultra Instinct Goku (Episode 110)
5. Ultra Instinct Goku (Episode 116)
6. Jiren
7. (Berserker) Super Saiyan 2 Kefla

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Post by Noah » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:10 pm

SuperDragoon wrote:How would the following rank in terms of strength?
1. Beerus (unseen 100% full power)
2. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto
3. Jiren
4. Ultra Instinct Goku (vs. Kefla)
5. Ultra Instinct Goku (vs. Jiren)
6. Super Saiyan 2 Kefla
7. Merged Zamasu
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Nov 18, 2017 11:57 pm

Noah wrote:
SuperDragoon wrote:How would the following rank in terms of strength?
1. Beerus (unseen 100% full power)
2. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto
3. Jiren
4. Ultra Instinct Goku (vs. Kefla)
5. Ultra Instinct Goku (vs. Jiren)
6. Super Saiyan 2 Kefla
7. Merged Zamasu
I'd put Merged Zamasu above Kefla

Rose Black bodies Kefla, so Merged Zamasu wouldnt even be a fair fight

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Post by Noah » Sun Nov 19, 2017 12:01 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:I'd put Merged Zamasu above Kefla, Rose Black bodies Kefla, so Merged Zamasu wouldnt even be a fair fight
Rosé Black bodies SSJ Kefla, but not SSJ2 Kefla that has techniques that could even hurt UI Goku and it's probably stronger than KKx20 + SSJB.
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