The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[SuperDragoon]

What the heck are you two talking about? SSJ1 Kefla absolutely destroys Black unless you believe he's superior to the Spirit Bomb made by Goku for freaking Jiren.

[Noah]

What the heck are you two talking about? SSJ1 Kefla absolutely destroys Black unless you believe he's superior to the Spirit Bomb made by Goku for freaking Jiren.

Why he would be not? Remember that Genki Dama had the energy collected of only nine people. Super Saiyan Rosé Black (final appearance) was toying with both SSJB Goku and Vegeta before his fusion with Zamasu.

[VegetaSSJBlue]

How would the following rank in terms of strength?

1. Jiren
2. Beerus
3. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto
4. Ultra Instinct Goku (Episode 116)
5. Super Saiyan 2 Kefla
6. Ultra Instinct Goku (Episode 110)
7. Merged Zamasu

[AvatarReiko]

After this episode, lol @ at Black even scratching Kafla

[Helios518]

What the heck are you two talking about? SSJ1 Kefla absolutely destroys Black unless you believe he's superior to the Spirit Bomb made by Goku for freaking Jiren.

Why he would be not? Remember that Genki Dama had the energy collected of only nine people. Super Saiyan Rosé Black (final appearance) was toying with both SSJB Goku and Vegeta before his fusion with Zamasu.

The Genki-Dama was Goku's trump card after SSJBKKx20. So at the bare minimum, it's SSJBKKx20 level unless you somehow think that Goku is stupid enough to use a technique weaker than SSJBKKx20 which Geran just shrugged off a few moments before, then Black is not even close to SSJBKKx10 let alone x20 level.

[Zamasu55]

Goku Black vs SSJ Vegito(Buu Arc)
SSJR Black vs Base Kafla
SSJ4 Goku vs SSJ Goku(Current)

- Black Goku loses badly, unless you mean the one who was laughing maniacally at SsjB Vegeta's fists.
- SsjR Black Goku wins and I explained last week why.
- Ssj4 Goku curbstomps.

How would the following rank in terms of strength?
1. Beerus
2. Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto
3. Fusion Zamasu
4. Ultra Instinct Goku (Episode 110)
5. Ultra Instinct Goku (Episode 116)
6. Jiren
7. (Berserker) Super Saiyan 2 Kefla

Anime:
- Jiren
- UI Goku (both episodes 110-116)
- Beerus
- Merged Zamasu; SsjB Vegetto
- Ssj2 Kefla.

Manga:
- Jiren
- SsjB Vegetto
- Beerus
- Merged Zamasu.

[Helios518]

How would the following rank in terms of strength?

1. Geran
2.Beerus
3. UI Goku (110)
4. UI Goku (116)
5. SSJB Vegetto/Corrupted Fused Zamasu
6. Fused Zamasu
7. SSJ2 Kafla

[Helios518]

How strong would Manga Merged Zamasu be if Black managed to complete SSJRose like how Goku did SSJB?

[SuperDragoon]

What the heck are you two talking about? SSJ1 Kefla absolutely destroys Black unless you believe he's superior to the Spirit Bomb made by Goku for freaking Jiren.

Why he would be not? Remember that Genki Dama had the energy collected of only nine people. Super Saiyan Rosé Black (final appearance) was toying with both SSJB Goku and Vegeta before his fusion with Zamasu.

What?! Are you joking or are you serious? How the heck can you be suggesting that the Spirit Bomb Goku used on Jiren was weaker than Black? Why the hell would Goku use the Spirit Bomb in the first place if it was inferior to his SSB self? You're flat out saying:
Jiren>>>Kaioken x20 Goku>Current SSB Goku>SSJ Rose Black>SSB Goku (Black Arc)~Spirit Bomb

Why the hell would Goku use something weaker than Black against Jiren when Kaioken x20 failled?!

[AvatarReiko]

Full Stamina SSJG Goku vs SSJ Kafla

[Galan007]

Full Stamina SSJG Goku vs SSJ Kafla

If we're talking 'full power' SSJ Kefla(as seen in ep. 116), I think it would still take SSB to defeat her in a straight up fight. If we're talking SSJ2 Kefla, then it'd likely take every bit of SSB /w/ KK multipliers... Which I find absurd, mind you, but that's what the episode's Potara-wank led me to believe. /shrug

[Berserker1921]

1. Merged Zamasu (no immortality) vs Ssj2 Kefla?
2. Ssj2 kefka vs 50% Beerus?
3. Vegito Blue (Zamasu arc, guarantee 10 mins, can use kkx2 only) vs Jiren 100%?
4. Vegito Blue (ToP arc) vs Current UI Goku (both are only going to last for 2 mins. Can Vegito hit goku before he defuses? No kaioken)?

[Kataphrut]

1. Merged Zamasu (no immortality) vs Ssj2 Kefla?
2. Ssj2 kefka vs 50% Beerus?
3. Vegito Blue (Zamasu arc, guarantee 10 mins, can use kkx2 only) vs Jiren 100%?
4. Vegito Blue (ToP arc) vs Current UI Goku (both are only going to last for 2 mins. Can Vegito hit goku before he defuses? No kaioken)?

1. Without immortality, I could see Caulifla and Kale being stronger than Zamasu, but Black being well above them both. By that token, Merged Zamasu would be stronger than Kefla. Also she's not permanent. She'd put up a hell of a fight, but he'd win.
2. If Beerus doesn't power up any further or use the hakai, then Kefla wins.
3. Jiren. Vegito would get some licks in, but ultimately I think Jiren has a strong enough defensive game to outlast him.
4. Goku has yet to take a hit in UI even from opponents much stronger than him, so I'm considering it God Mode until further notice. Not even Vegito could land a hit.

Ironically, if both only last two minutes then Vegito would win after defusing since UI leaves Goku drained once he loses it. The parallel-universe Goku and Vegeta that are fighting him would still have all their strength.

[apex_pretador]

SSJ Cabba vs 4th Form Frieza (ROF)
SSJ3 Goku vs 17
SSJ2 Caulifa vs Future Zamasu (No immortality)
Future Zamasu vs Buuhan

Freeza stomps his head in
Goku one shots
Zamasu easily
Zamasu easily stomps. Possibly one-shots

- Strongest character 'Android #35' could beat?

SS3 Goku

Full Stamina SSJG Goku vs SSJ Kafla

Kefla easily beats him in base

[Noah]

New match:

- Baby Vegetto Black (Baby Vegeta + Goku Black Potara Fusion) vs. current KKx20 + SSJB Goku

[dragon boss z]

New match:

- Baby Vegetto Black (Baby Vegeta + Goku Black Potara Fusion) vs. current KKx20 + SSJB Goku

Baby Vegetto Black stomps. He would be above ssj2 Kefla and stronger than fused Zamasu minus the immortality.

[Noah]

Baby Vegetto Black stomps. He would be above ssj2 Kefla and stronger than fused Zamasu minus the immortality.

and vs. Vegetto Blue?

[Helios518]

Baby Vegetto Black stomps. He would be above ssj2 Kefla and stronger than fused Zamasu minus the immortality.

and vs. Vegetto Blue?

Baby Vegetto Black would easily get erased because Vegetto Blue is made from two SSJBs while Baby Vegetto Black is made from someone around SSJB tier and a character that is way below God tier.

[dragon boss z]

Baby Vegetto Black stomps. He would be above ssj2 Kefla and stronger than fused Zamasu minus the immortality.

and vs. Vegetto Blue?

Vegetto Blue would win.

Baby Vegetto Black stomps. He would be above ssj2 Kefla and stronger than fused Zamasu minus the immortality.

and vs. Vegetto Blue?

Baby Vegetto Black would easily get erased because Vegetto Blue is made from two SSJBs while Baby Vegetto Black is made from someone around SSJB tier and a character that is way below God tier.

Wasn't baby Vegeta around ssj4 level? That should mean he is at least close to initial SSG, though I agree Vegito blue would win.

[Noah]

Baby Vegetto Black would easily get erased because Vegetto Blue is made from two SSJBs while Baby Vegetto Black is made from someone around SSJB tier and a character that is way below God tier.

Wasn't Baby Vegeta around ssj4 level? That should mean he is at least close to initial SSG, though I agree Vegito Blue would win.

But isn't Zamasu also below God-tier? And he's the half of Merged Zamasu.