supercat wrote:LowRyder2005 wrote:supercat wrote:
What happened to not responding to my posts?
Either way, I guess SSJ2 Gohan keeping up with a new-and-improved Ultimate Gohan doesn't mean much since some people like to dismiss Copy Vegeta absolutely putting SSJ3 Gotenks in his place. But oh wait, a for fun sparring match between SSJ Goku and SSJ Gohan is all the more accurate way of gauging power.
I love how you use words like "no way" and "incorrect" when this is a discussion thread based on opinions and speculations gathered after going over statements and feats. Yeah, no way I'm going to waste time debating with someone who doesn't have an open minded approach.
Given the openly provocative nature of your post(s) and their specific claims, I felt like trying to make you understand your premises don't really hold up under minimum scrutiny. Plus, I don't think they jibe that well within a post with a clear, if not a tad juvenile, "j'accuse" towards everyone who doesn't share your ideas.
With that being said, the nature of the sparring match is completely irrelevant, since it's not even tangential to my argument: Gohan needs at bare minimum to be above base Goku regardless for the mere reason base Goku transforms to face him. The consequence of your argument is that Goku (1) turns Super Saiyan (50) to increase his power and drops to below-base levels (0,1). He could've lowered his power level in base; and the reason he turned Super Saiyan was obviously not to decrease his strength.
Secondly, Goku can obviously be above SS3 Gotenks - assuming Gotenks didn't regress in power, which we're arbitrarily excluding - and inferior to Ultimate Gohan. Hence, the above is not an irrepairable contradiction. Gohan's power has already been directly stated to be inferior to that; unlike Goku not simply suppressing himself, but behaving irrationally. In any way, Gohan-Buu would simply be above base Goku in any other case.
To reiterate: yes, you are "almost surely" incorrect. If the characters are rational, which is really a natural premise whenever you discuss this kind of stuff in general, you can promptly eliminate the "almost surely".
You can cut the pretentious nonsense out and still debate. There's really no harm in doing so. Plus, I would look into what some of those things you're saying actually means before throwing it around so casually. Otherwise it just sounds silly and again, pretentious. And I'm not the one who responds to every post that I disagree with a lengthy, passive aggressive blurb of jargon that most people probably barely bother skimming through, so I'm not sure what you're getting at. Is it that disappointing to you that Buu is left behind in the dust?
Lol you just described your own post. I'm not sure if you realized it, but you have been responding to two people. A lot of things you say to him sound like they were supposed to be directed at me. And why does everyone who has a different opinion have an alterior motive?