Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
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Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
Or was the only difference was that now she can fly?
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
Do we ever see her use ki that way?
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
Angelus wrote:Or was the only difference was that now she can fly and can shoot some minor ki blasts?
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
I actually can't remember. Was it Spopovich that fired a ki blast at her? My memory might be getting mixed up.
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
I believe he does in the anime. He uses a kiai in the manga.
Just wanted to make sure I wasn't forgetting something that important.
Just wanted to make sure I wasn't forgetting something that important.
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
I'm pretty sure she would have gained a minor increase in power with her ki contol. It's never really mentioned, though. At most I'd put her at a 40-50 or so.
Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
I'm almost certain that learning to use her ki, especially for a taxing and tricky feat like flying, would cause her power level to increase by at least a moderate amount. It's like she's learning how to use a muscle she didn't even know she had before.
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
No. She just became more versatile since she could control her energy.
Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
Learning how to use that muscle in itself wouldn't strengthen it, though.Kaboom wrote:I'm almost certain that learning to use her ki, especially for a taxing and tricky feat like flying, would cause her power level to increase by at least a moderate amount. It's like she's learning how to use a muscle she didn't even know she had before.
Gohan specifically said that she needed to control her ki in order to fly. Nothing was ever said about her needing to increase her ki, and it was never implied she did so either - she just learned to utilize the ki she already had.
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
I also believe that. Much like Kuririn's power being unlocked and him being able to tap into hidden ki he didn't know he had; Videl gained both access to and control of her ki, making her power level increase.Kaboom wrote:I'm almost certain that learning to use her ki, especially for a taxing and tricky feat like flying, would cause her power level to increase by at least a moderate amount. It's like she's learning how to use a muscle she didn't even know she had before.
It would also correlate with the spiritual part of training your ki; having better control of your ki will make you and your attacks stronger.
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
BOG shows that a bullet is dangerous to her so no.
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
Well, actually if you use a muscle you have never used before then you do strengthen it through use. Like if you've never walked in your life and then start trying to walk you will strengthen your leg muscles because they are now being used. Gohan said that she needed to control her Ki in order to fly, yes. But why would Gohan need to say that she needs to increase her Ki? She may have already obtained enough Ki to fly. Flying will just increase her Ki further than what it is already at. I don't think Kaboom is saying she needs to keep trying to fly in order to gain enough Ki to fly. Just because she has enough Ki to fly doesn't mean it can't increase further through training her flying ability.Adamant wrote:Learning how to use that muscle in itself wouldn't strengthen it, though.
Gohan specifically said that she needed to control her ki in order to fly. Nothing was ever said about her needing to increase her ki, and it was never implied she did so either - she just learned to utilize the ki she already had.
Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
You can be moderately above normal-human level and still get hurt by bullets, and I'd think any increase Videl made in terms of power level would be relatively minor. Like up from a 6 or 7 to about 20 or so. Goku shrugged off bullets at the start of DB with a power level lower than that, but as a Saiyan he's also got a naturally tougher and stronger body.DBZAOTA482 wrote:BOG shows that a bullet is dangerous to her so no.
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
Id say learning the ability to control your Ki would give you a good increase in power. Videl went from being able to beat up a average man to being able to kick Spopovich's head with enough force to make it do a 180.
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
Kuririn took a bullet too and his power level was lower than Goku's.Kaboom wrote:You can be moderately above normal-human level and still get hurt by bullets, and I'd think any increase Videl made in terms of power level would be relatively minor. Like up from a 6 or 7 to about 20 or so. Goku shrugged off bullets at the start of DB with a power level lower than that, but as a Saiyan he's also got a naturally tougher and stronger body.DBZAOTA482 wrote:BOG shows that a bullet is dangerous to her so no.
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
Toriyama said you need ki to become stronger past a certain point (implying that before that point, physical matters are more dominant), and Roshi talks about the "human wall" or something like that, so I don't know whether the feats at very very low powerlevels have that much consistency with the powerlevels themselves. Roshi was stronger than Goku and Krillin because he had a high powerlevel relatively speaking, but I don't buy the idea that, say, Mister Satan has to have a powerlevel higher than 5 just because "farmer with a shotgun" is at 5.
Videl can use her powerlevel to fly, but I don't think ki has come to represent most of what makes her strong, so she's still limited by human weaknesses inherent in her physical body. Hence, being able to die of being shot.
Videl can use her powerlevel to fly, but I don't think ki has come to represent most of what makes her strong, so she's still limited by human weaknesses inherent in her physical body. Hence, being able to die of being shot.
Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
She was taught to use the ki she already had, not increase it, so no.
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Re: Did Videl's power level increase after Gohan's training?
Yeah, I don't buy early Dragonball numbers. I place Goku around 30 while Yamcha and Krillin probably low to mid 20s. Obviously Roshi is much more powerful than that.
We've seen early Dragonball characters tank bullets before, and as was shown Videl is still threatened by bullets even long after her training with Gohan. At the 25th Budokai, I think she could easily beat Mr. Satan where as before she could beat him with high difficulty. She might be able to make beginning of Dragonball Yamcha or Krillin work up a little sweat but that's about it.
We've seen early Dragonball characters tank bullets before, and as was shown Videl is still threatened by bullets even long after her training with Gohan. At the 25th Budokai, I think she could easily beat Mr. Satan where as before she could beat him with high difficulty. She might be able to make beginning of Dragonball Yamcha or Krillin work up a little sweat but that's about it.