Who's the most powerful villain End of Z Piccolo could beat?

[Angelus]

I don't know if he'll get a boost in this new movie coming out but let's assume he won't... and he's just his vanilla End of Z self.

[hyperbeing1]

I don't know if he'll get a boost in this new movie coming out but let's assume he won't... and he's just his vanilla End of Z self.

likely around perfect cell level or a bit less. just a random guess.

[Saiga]

I think he could defeat a Cell Junior. The next villain up would be Perfect Cell or Dabra, and I don't think he got that strong.

[CatouttaHell]

Pure Evil Boo.

[Kaboom]

In my head-canon, Piccolo would have picked up the pace with his training after being borderline useless against Boo. Given how rapidly he's been shown to increase from training before, by the manga's epilogue I could easily see him being on a high SS2 level and taking out Super Perfect Cell. Of course, assuming Goku and Vegeta have improved at least moderately as well, he'd still be lagging behind them.

[Pantalones]

Well, he's definitely powerful enough to beat "semi-perfect" Cell even as early as the Cell Games, and able to stand up to a Cell Jr. at least for a little while even though he has no chance of actually winning against one (so weaker than SSj Vegeta and Trunks at that point, but not drastically so.)

It's hard to say how much stronger he got between the Cell Games and the Buu saga, aside from the wide range of "stronger than he was before, but still lagging behind Super Saiyan Goku and Vegeta." I don't think he'd be able to beat Perfect Cell yet as of the Buu saga, though (otherwise he'd be spared from Dabura's spit, as anyone with a maximum power on Cell's level or above would definitely qualify as a good source of energy to revive Buu), probably not even the suppressed version that fought Goku.

End of Z... even harder to say. I'd like to think he'd at least be strong enough to stomp a Cell Jr. and put up a great fight against Perfect Cell (either the power he used vs. Gohan or his full power) by that point. Maybe even up to Super Perfect Cell level if he trained a lot in an attempt to power up after Buu rather than just keeping up his usual steady increase? I can't really see him catching up with any of the Buus unless he stumbled across some other super-powerful Namekian and they ended up fusing or something, but Piccolo ending up vaguely in the range of the Super Saiyan 2 characters by the end of the series is an idea I kinda like.

[ZombieVito]

The Cell Jr's get one shotted and he actually has a chance to beat Perfect Cell at the power he used against Goku.

Maybe the new movie will hax him more. I hope so.

[SSJ2FutureGohan]

EoZ Piccolo >= Boo arc Piccolo >= Cell Games Piccolo

as much as I'd love to think Piccolo's a beast, I'd say he hits USSJ Mirai Trunks level at best.

Why Toriyama forgot about him and reduced him to a comedy act in the Boo arc is beyond me.

[DBZAOTA482]

He could beat Kaioshin.

[RandomGuy96]

Piccolo was still a good deal weaker than a Cell Jr at the Cell Games, and any improvements he gained between the Cell and Buu arcs appeared to be very minimal. He didn't even want to take another trip in the ROSAT, considering it a waste of time, and was MUCH, MUCH weaker than Kaioshin, who himself was MUCH, MUCH weaker than the adult Super Saiyans. He was also clearly demonstrated to be inferior to SS Goten and SS Trunks on several occasions.

I guess I could see him surpassing a Cell Jr, and beating one with some trouble by the EOZ, but that's about it. The next strongest villain is SS2-tier, and I don't see him getting to that level, as he has no special training methods to justify him getting that big of a power-up in only ten years after a seven year training binge did nothing significant for him. I'm generous, so I place EOZ Piccolo as roughly equal to EOZ SS Goten and Trunks, and slightly weaker than pre-fusion Kaioshin.

He could beat Kaioshin.

Even if you do think that, Kaioshin, by the EOZ, has already fused with Kibito, and become massively stronger. It's very much a stretch that Piccolo's MOUNTAIN TRAINING would even cover the gargantuan gap between him and Kaioshin, let alone another, even more gargantuan gap between Kaioshin and Kibitoshin.

[Hugo Boss]

I would say Dabra. After 17 years of training in the God's Temple I think he could have improved in order to be a match for the big bad that preceeded the former Boo.

[vegetaslegacy15]

Well, I would say probably Super saiyan Gohan against Perfect Cell. He put up an okay fight against the Cell Jrs., probably only gain minimal increases from his training in the 7 year gap, and probably trained pretty hard in the 10 years to the End of Z. I just can't see him breaking to Super Saiyan 2 levels of strength.

[mysticboy]

Fat Buu. That's assuming he trains hard for the 10 years.

[hyperbeing1]

Fat Buu. That's assuming he trains hard for the 10 years.

Do you mean initial fat buu or mr buu.

[Saiga]

Piccolo was still a good deal weaker than a Cell Jr at the Cell Games, and any improvements he gained between the Cell and Buu arcs appeared to be very minimal. He didn't even want to take another trip in the ROSAT, considering it a waste of time, and was MUCH, MUCH weaker than Kaioshin, who himself was MUCH, MUCH weaker than the adult Super Saiyans. He was also clearly demonstrated to be inferior to SS Goten and SS Trunks on several occasions.

I guess I could see him surpassing a Cell Jr, and beating one with some trouble by the EOZ, but that's about it. The next strongest villain is SS2-tier, and I don't see him getting to that level, as he has no special training methods to justify him getting that big of a power-up in only ten years after a seven year training binge did nothing significant for him. I'm generous, so I place EOZ Piccolo as roughly equal to EOZ SS Goten and Trunks, and slightly weaker than pre-fusion Kaioshin.

So how strong would EOZ Goten and Trunks be? Stronger than post-RoSaT by any significant amount at all?

[RandomGuy96]

Piccolo was still a good deal weaker than a Cell Jr at the Cell Games, and any improvements he gained between the Cell and Buu arcs appeared to be very minimal. He didn't even want to take another trip in the ROSAT, considering it a waste of time, and was MUCH, MUCH weaker than Kaioshin, who himself was MUCH, MUCH weaker than the adult Super Saiyans. He was also clearly demonstrated to be inferior to SS Goten and SS Trunks on several occasions.

I guess I could see him surpassing a Cell Jr, and beating one with some trouble by the EOZ, but that's about it. The next strongest villain is SS2-tier, and I don't see him getting to that level, as he has no special training methods to justify him getting that big of a power-up in only ten years after a seven year training binge did nothing significant for him. I'm generous, so I place EOZ Piccolo as roughly equal to EOZ SS Goten and Trunks, and slightly weaker than pre-fusion Kaioshin.

So how strong would EOZ Goten and Trunks be? Stronger than post-RoSaT by any significant amount at all?

Just as strong as they were at the end of the Buu arc. Vegeta and Goku both lament that their kids didn't train.

[mysticboy]

Fat Buu. That's assuming he trains hard for the 10 years.

Do you mean initial fat buu or mr buu.

Initial.

[Kakacarrottop]

Ledgic, Mutchy or the weaker Shadow Dragons from GT maybe? although i'm not really sure how powerful those guys were. Any low-tier GT villains really are as far as he gets imo. In canon Z terms the strongest character he could defeat was probably Yakon.

[Hugo Boss]

Fat Buu. That's assuming he trains hard for the 10 years.

Do you mean initial fat buu or mr buu?

Initial.

Aren't they the same character?

[Hitiro]

Aren't they the same character?

Isn't it that Mr. Boo has had the bulk of his power stripped from him post-splitting. Whereas the initial Fat Boo, through anger boosts, was above SSJ2 Majin Vegeta and could have become stronger than SSJ3 Goku through anger boosts too(As essentially if the split didn't happen then Fat Boo could be as powerful as Evil(Super) Boo). Not that I'm saying Mr. Boo couldn't be above SSJ2 Majin Vegeta(Considering he is probably made up of the essence of both the Dai Kaioshin and South Kaioshin which are both SSJ tier characters at least.) but he is probably not above SSJ2 Majin Vegeta by as much as he was when he also had a portion of Pure Boo's power to draw on as well.