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Headcanons
I can't really find a page or a topic for headcanons, so I made one myself. (correct me though if there is one somewhere, I just couldn't find one)
For those who aren't familiar with the term, a headcanon is essentially an idea or thought about details in the franchise, that could just as well be canon, but are just never mentioned or brought up in the series. A headcanon can also be an expansion of an already mentioned or suggested fact. An example would be: "I think that Puar and Chiaotzu get along with each other, and consider each other friends." or "Yamcha secretly collects action figures".
Here are some of my own:
-Saiyan hair is essentially fur, as it doesn't grow from the day they're born, and sometimes fluffs out (the only instance where this happens is after Goku has blasted Vegeta over the clouds after the beam struggle, and Vegeta starts getting real temperamental, and both his tail fur and hair kinda fluff out. I know it's mostly for comic relief, but it's still interesting enough for me to include it)
-Fusions have a unified voice in-universe, while we only hear the two voices on top of each other.
-As Saiyans are mainly carnivorous, they have short, albeit sharp canines even when not in their Oozaru form.
Post whatever you like here!
For those who aren't familiar with the term, a headcanon is essentially an idea or thought about details in the franchise, that could just as well be canon, but are just never mentioned or brought up in the series. A headcanon can also be an expansion of an already mentioned or suggested fact. An example would be: "I think that Puar and Chiaotzu get along with each other, and consider each other friends." or "Yamcha secretly collects action figures".
Here are some of my own:
-Saiyan hair is essentially fur, as it doesn't grow from the day they're born, and sometimes fluffs out (the only instance where this happens is after Goku has blasted Vegeta over the clouds after the beam struggle, and Vegeta starts getting real temperamental, and both his tail fur and hair kinda fluff out. I know it's mostly for comic relief, but it's still interesting enough for me to include it)
-Fusions have a unified voice in-universe, while we only hear the two voices on top of each other.
-As Saiyans are mainly carnivorous, they have short, albeit sharp canines even when not in their Oozaru form.
Post whatever you like here!
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Re: Headcanons
Grade forms aren't necessarily transformations, but just ways of powering up as Super Saiyan, and that Mastered Super Saiyan is doing that without bulking up. So MSS = SS Grade 3 in terms of power, and they don't have access to Grades 2 and 3 after they master Super Saiyan.
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Probably false headcanon: Golden Oozaru is the next 'evolution' of Super Saiyan 3, signified by SS3's extended eyebrow ridges and growing hair being a sign of transitioning into the form. Thus, the "Super Saiyan 4" name for the humanoid form of Golden Oozaru is appropriate.
Probably true headcanon (or maybe canon if I missed an interview somewhere): Raditz was influenced greatly by Vegeta while growing up, making him more sinister than his parents and brother.
Probably true headcanon (or maybe canon if I missed an interview somewhere): Raditz was influenced greatly by Vegeta while growing up, making him more sinister than his parents and brother.
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The Super Saiyan multiplier can be increased via training, hence why Goku spent his time training the form during the 10 day timeskip and it also explains Toriyama's comment about it being more beneficial to train the form.
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If Gohan mastered his SSJ2 transformation and used it as a base, he could probably unleash his Hidden Potential and look like his SSJ2 self, because unlocking it didn't mean disabling transformations: it just meant using more power without Ki strain. Even if the Old Kai told him to "do the thing when you transform" (which is to power up), we were shown in BotG that he has access to both.
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The SSJ3 transformation can possibly be mastered. BOG show that even when Goku was being effortlessly wrecked by Beerus, who was leagues ahead Kid Boo, he was still able to retain the form until being actually knocked out. Whereas after going all out against Kid Boo taking everything Kid Boo was throwing at him he couldn't maintain the form for more than a minute.
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Since it was told that Sayians usually don't form couples... I have some theories that could explain the fact that we see fathers, babies seen in Move 8 are male and Vegeta never refers to his mother, nor she is seen around King.
Most of them prefer to live in same sex groups. Mating is seen as very private affair to the point it's never spoken of in public. If you are interested in someone you exchange gifts (preferably leather gloves) and wait for the result. Pregnancy is short and not very visible, females stay active to the very end. Childbirth is silent, bloodless and usually takes place by night. Daughters stay with mother, sons are dumped to the hospital ward waiting for father and those too weak to grab mother's tail are eaten for their troubles and promptly forgotten. The couple usually lose interest in each other. Having children with someone of higher status doesn't give one any pros.
Bardock and Gine are seen as perverted hipsters for hugging in public and having two children in a row.
Most of them prefer to live in same sex groups. Mating is seen as very private affair to the point it's never spoken of in public. If you are interested in someone you exchange gifts (preferably leather gloves) and wait for the result. Pregnancy is short and not very visible, females stay active to the very end. Childbirth is silent, bloodless and usually takes place by night. Daughters stay with mother, sons are dumped to the hospital ward waiting for father and those too weak to grab mother's tail are eaten for their troubles and promptly forgotten. The couple usually lose interest in each other. Having children with someone of higher status doesn't give one any pros.
Bardock and Gine are seen as perverted hipsters for hugging in public and having two children in a row.
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-Like SSJ2FutureGohan said, the Grade forms aren't really transformations but shortcuts to greater power and Mastered Super Saiyan is means to gaining such power without the drawbacks
-Gohan doesn't actively train due to the fact it remains him of the emotional pain he experienced while on the battlefield
-Chichi isn't fully-human (likely half-demon or demi-god) due to her father which explains why she was abnormally strong as a child and as such it contributes to Gohan, Goten, and Pan's insanely high potential
-Muten Roshi's perverseness is due to him living far out on an island for years so he never could have consistent lover
-Yajirobe can easily save the world but chooses not to cuz he doesn't wanna be it easy
-Nappa was the glue that held the remaining Saiyans who kept true to their nature together (a.k.a Vegeta and Raditz)
-Gohan doesn't actively train due to the fact it remains him of the emotional pain he experienced while on the battlefield
-Chichi isn't fully-human (likely half-demon or demi-god) due to her father which explains why she was abnormally strong as a child and as such it contributes to Gohan, Goten, and Pan's insanely high potential
-Muten Roshi's perverseness is due to him living far out on an island for years so he never could have consistent lover
-Yajirobe can easily save the world but chooses not to cuz he doesn't wanna be it easy
-Nappa was the glue that held the remaining Saiyans who kept true to their nature together (a.k.a Vegeta and Raditz)
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I like this one.DBZAOTA482 wrote: -Gohan doesn't actively train due to the fact it remains him of the emotional pain he experienced while on the battlefield
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That certainly seems very plausible.Doctor. wrote:The Super Saiyan multiplier can be increased via training, hence why Goku spent his time training the form during the 10 day timeskip and it also explains Toriyama's comment about it being more beneficial to train the form.
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I'm disappointed. I thought this thread was about:
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Hahaha, very clever.shonenhikada wrote:I'm disappoinTED. I thought this thread was a bout:Spoiler:
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Some more:
-End of Z Vegeta has Super Saiyan 3
-Both Goku and Vegeta have mastered Super Saiyan 3
-Ultimate Gohan, EoZ Goku/Vegeta, Kamiccolo, and the humans are completely maxed out.
-End of Z Vegeta has Super Saiyan 3
-Both Goku and Vegeta have mastered Super Saiyan 3
-Ultimate Gohan, EoZ Goku/Vegeta, Kamiccolo, and the humans are completely maxed out.
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Dragon Ball Super could end up defying that.SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:-Ultimate Gohan, EoZ Goku/Vegeta, Kamiccolo, and the humans are completely maxed out.
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Here's one inspired on another thread:
- Namekians, like Majins, are able to create evil entities based on their own image, who take on a personality of their own. Their fusion doesn't necessarily mean completion of the original, since he already exists, but a new entity instead, as we could see with Super Buu. Since Daimao gave birth to a new Namekian and died, his evil couldn't join with Kami to create another being, so Kami offered his power to Piccolo much like Nail did. If Daimao were to be revived and offered his power, it would join Kami's and make Piccolo somewhat stronger.
- Namekians, like Majins, are able to create evil entities based on their own image, who take on a personality of their own. Their fusion doesn't necessarily mean completion of the original, since he already exists, but a new entity instead, as we could see with Super Buu. Since Daimao gave birth to a new Namekian and died, his evil couldn't join with Kami to create another being, so Kami offered his power to Piccolo much like Nail did. If Daimao were to be revived and offered his power, it would join Kami's and make Piccolo somewhat stronger.
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Agreed. I see the grades as being a side-effect of not having adapted to the stress of going Super Saiyan. Kind of like how you subconsciously flex muscles in your face, neck and legs when you do a heavy bicep curl. So if just triggering the SSJ transformation results in 50% of a user's SSJ strength, I see SSJ Grade 3 being the same as FP-SSJ and SSJ Grade 2 being somewhere between full power and that initial 50%.SSJ2FutureGohan wrote:Grade forms aren't necessarily transformations, but just ways of powering up as Super Saiyan, and that Mastered Super Saiyan is doing that without bulking up. So MSS = SS Grade 3 in terms of power, and they don't have access to Grades 2 and 3 after they master Super Saiyan.
My head canon also includes:
-Tenshinhan made good on his claim that he not only mastered Kaioken, but also improved upon it.
-More than 4 Saiyans survived the destruction of planet Vegeta, otherwise Nappa and Vegeta contradict what Raditz said about there being four kids, two of which were babies (one of those two being Goku). What he was actually explaining was that four Saiyans ESCAPED the destruction, so anybody already offworld wasn't in danger. Tarble and Goku are the babies, who are never heard from again, so everyone assumes they're dead (or rather, they assume Tarble is dead and nobody but Raditz ever knew about Goku). Freeza immediately has any stragglers (the off-worlders) killed besides Nappa. This leads to there being only, Nappa, Vegeta, Raditz and Goku thought to be alive during Raditz's explanation.
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See, i think the exact opposite is the caseDoctor. wrote:The Super Saiyan multiplier can be increased via training, hence why Goku spent his time training the form during the 10 day timeskip and it also explains Toriyama's comment about it being more beneficial to train the form.
-The First time someone transforms into a Super Saiyan, their strength is 50 times their base. However, when they revert to base, they find that their base strength is now ten times stronger, because they've internalized some of the strength. On subsequent transformations, the multiplier is only 10x (to match up with a statement Toriyama made in an interview). Once they achieve the FPSSJ transformation, their base form starts internalizing more energy, making the multiplier smaller in SSJ1 without reducing strength. Later forms are uneffected
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-The Hakaishin does not have alternate timeline counterparts. There's only one to cover everytimeline
-Super Saiyan one is the only Super Saiyan form that comes standard. All other forms are only possible permutations. These possible permutations are: SSJ1-SSJ2-SSJ3, SSJ1-ASSJ-USSJ, SSJ1-FPSSJ, SSJ1-SSG-SSGSS, SSJ1-LSSJ, SSJ1-Golder Oozaru-SSJ4
-Gohan's ultimate power up is not literal potential unlocking. Rather, it magically granted him the power he would have had if he did not stop training after Cell
-Whis is the God Of Destruction for another universe
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This isn't really something I accept more than wonder about. I wonder if that geezer Goku doodle of Toriyama's will come to pass since Old Kai gave Goku his life, which he said he, "only had about a thousand years or so left anyway," and thus Goku will wind up outliving everybody.
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I believe the reason to Goku coming out of the RoSaT so strong was not because mastering the SSJ form gave him benefits while training but rather that sparring with Gohan, who was constantly improving due to his latent potential, forced Goku to keep up. As with Akira Toriyama's statement with Beerus and Goku fighting.
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-Trunks was born even in with two completely opposite situations (peace time vs hard core training) so I believe there is at least some sort of predestination on people getting born as long as their parents are alive and meet in that timeline. I believe Videl to be alive in the Future... along with Pan (untrained), but Trunks was simply unaware of their existence.
-Vegeta's and Tarble's mother was as tall as Tarble because she was actually half-tsufur, a fact she had to hid from her birth. Being much smaller she had to make up with strategy, resourcefulness and wits against the brute force of her Saiyans rivals. This caught the attention of soon-to-be-King Vegeta and he married her.
-Ancient Namekians actually had contact with the Saiyans previously or during the great SSjGod war. Saichōrō was aware of the existence of Super Saiyans and was actually worried Vegeta was one.
-Yajirobe has diluded Saiyan Blood. Somehow, way back, a saiyan was stranded on Earth and had a kid. Yajirobe is extremely similar to Saiyans in many regards. Hell, he was almost as strong as Goku during the 22° tournament without any training. If it wasn't for his lazy ass I'm sure he would be on par with the rest.
-Vegeta's and Tarble's mother was as tall as Tarble because she was actually half-tsufur, a fact she had to hid from her birth. Being much smaller she had to make up with strategy, resourcefulness and wits against the brute force of her Saiyans rivals. This caught the attention of soon-to-be-King Vegeta and he married her.
-Ancient Namekians actually had contact with the Saiyans previously or during the great SSjGod war. Saichōrō was aware of the existence of Super Saiyans and was actually worried Vegeta was one.
-Yajirobe has diluded Saiyan Blood. Somehow, way back, a saiyan was stranded on Earth and had a kid. Yajirobe is extremely similar to Saiyans in many regards. Hell, he was almost as strong as Goku during the 22° tournament without any training. If it wasn't for his lazy ass I'm sure he would be on par with the rest.
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