The All-Purpose "What-If " Thread

[Steven Bloodriver]

If you, yourself, could recall from just before the Tournament of Power even started, Mr. Son Goku was willing to do such a thing in the Dragon Ball Super Anime, but if in a desperate enough situation, Son Goku and Vegeta would have agreed to have their hidden powers unlocked. But what about the other eight much more powerful members of the Universe Seven Team? Like would Uncle Krillin (Potential Unleashed) have been able to dodge Ruthless Final Form Frost’s Sneak Attack, would Mr. Piccolo (Potential Unleashed) have detected Damon ahead of time and then swatted the latter like the Bug he really was, would Android 17 (Potential Unleashed) have defeated Toppo in just the nick of time before the Leader of the Pride Troopers could even have the slightest Ghost of a chance in transforming into Hakaishin Toppo, and would Fourth Form Frieza (Potential Unleashed) have had taken his sweet time in torturing the absolute hell out of Mystic Son Gohan?

I would agree that everyone would be significantly stronger with their potential unlocked. Krillin's potential unlocked would be something I'd definitely like to see. Out of all these characters though, Gohan had the most potential due to him being a hybrid Saiyan. Hence, even with Freeza unlocked his potential, he would not have defeated Ultimate Gohan post-ToP if we go by manga version. In the anime, Golden Freeza was more than enough to defeat Ultimate Gohan.

What if while Goku was in the Otherworld for the very first time during the Saiyan Saga, and about to make his journey to go to meet and then train under King Kai, Snake Way, in this case, was only a 100 miles long?

If Goku only had to travel 10 miles along the Snake Way, he would've reached King Kai's planet faster and would have begun is training earlier. This means he would have finished his training earlier and be able to arrive just in time when Nappa and Vegeta arrived on Earth. This would have prevented the deaths of the other Z-fighters and possibly allow an easier defeat of Vegeta.

Majin Vegeta, at the very moment he would have originally made his decisive decision to go on to just absolutely murder the hell out of quite possibly thousands upon thousands of innocent bystanders all in order to provoke Son Goku to fight him once again in a rematch, if he would have changed in what little of his mind he had left in that hardhead of his at the last moment and only went after to have gone to kill Son Chi-Chi and Son Gohan right before Goku’s two eyes, instead of just going after the majority of the rest of the spectators like in the original story, what exactly would Mr. Son Goku have done right after having bear witness to this horrible tragedy?

As in basically, if the main method Majin Vegeta had used to provoke Son Goku into fighting him was killing Son Goku’s very own wife, Chi-Chi, and oldest son, Gohan, right in front him, how would Goku himself have responded to this event? Especially if Majin Vegeta would have added in he would personally be going after Son Goten as well to make a full-set?

[shadowfox87]

Majin Vegeta, at the very moment he would have originally made his decisive decision to go on to just absolutely murder the hell out of quite possibly thousands upon thousands of innocent bystanders all in order to provoke Son Goku to fight him once again in a rematch, if he would have changed in what little of his mind he had left in that hardhead of his at the last moment and only went after to have gone to kill Son Chi-Chi and Son Gohan right before Goku’s two eyes, instead of just going after the majority of the rest of the spectators like in the original story, what exactly would Mr. Son Goku have done right after having bear witness to this horrible tragedy?

As in basically, if the main method Majin Vegeta had used to provoke Son Goku into fighting him was killing Son Goku’s very own wife, Chi-Chi, and oldest son, Gohan, right in front him, how would Goku himself have responded to this event? Especially if Majin Vegeta would have added in he would personally be going after Son Goten as well to make a full-set?

Goku would not have held back in this case and gone full Super Saiyan 3, obliterating Vegeta as Goku would see that Vegeta is at the point of no return. To save Goten and his family, Goku would even kill.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Majin Vegeta, at the very moment he would have originally made his decisive decision to go on to just absolutely murder the hell out of quite possibly thousands upon thousands of innocent bystanders all in order to provoke Son Goku to fight him once again in a rematch, if he would have changed in what little of his mind he had left in that hardhead of his at the last moment and only went after to have gone to kill Son Chi-Chi and Son Gohan right before Goku’s two eyes, instead of just going after the majority of the rest of the spectators like in the original story, what exactly would Mr. Son Goku have done right after having bear witness to this horrible tragedy?

As in basically, if the main method Majin Vegeta had used to provoke Son Goku into fighting him was killing Son Goku’s very own wife, Chi-Chi, and oldest son, Gohan, right in front him, how would Goku himself have responded to this event? Especially if Majin Vegeta would have added in he would personally be going after Son Goten as well to make a full-set?

Goku would not have held back in this case and gone full Super Saiyan 3, obliterating Vegeta as Goku would see that Vegeta is at the point of no return. To save Goten and his family, Goku would even kill.

How would Super Saiyan 3 Goku molly-whopping Majin Vegeta have affected the Majin Buu Saga in the grand scheme of things? Especially if Super Saiyan 3 Goku had dealt the finishing blow to his long-time rival with an Instant Kamehameha?

[shadowfox87]

How would Super Saiyan 3 Goku molly-whopping Majin Vegeta have affected the Majin Buu Saga in the grand scheme of things?

Having turned into a Super Saiyan 3 already once, Goku would have less time available on Earth. He would still not be able to sense Gohan's ki. He would save Goten and Trunks and take them to Kami's lookout. With the little time he has left, he would teach them the fusion dance. Then he would teleport to Majin Buu's location and coerce him to wait 2 days for a strong fighter (Gotenks) and not listen to Babidi. This would cause Buu to kill Babidi. Then subsequent events would go as normal.

[Noah]

What if Goku died on Namek explosion?

He'd probably just be wished back with the Namekian DBs, it's exactly what Bulma & Co intended when they thought he perished in Namek's explosion.

What if he didn't wanted? You know... To train more and such.

Instead of firing on Imperfect Cell, Piccolo unleashes his Hellzone Grenade on 17 instead. Does he manage to kill him, thus preventing Cell's perfection? If so, what happens next?

He should destroy #17 quite easily, given the time he spent charging it and how expected it to be effective against a much stronger opponent. With #17 disintegrated, Cell murders Piccolo in a rage and absorbs #18. What he does from there, I'm not sure. He might go crazy and blow up the planet out of spite. He might steal a time machine and try to go to another timeline with androids. Or he might deliberate what to do next and then get killed by Vegeta and Trunks before he can do anything.

Why not find a way to go to Namek and wish for 17 to be ressurected there?

How would Super Saiyan 3 Goku molly-whopping Majin Vegeta have affected the Majin Buu Saga in the grand scheme of things?

Having turned into a Super Saiyan 3 already once, Goku would have less time available on Earth. He would still not be able to sense Gohan's ki. He would save Goten and Trunks and take them to Kami's lookout. With the little time he has left, he would teach them the fusion dance. Then he would teleport to Majin Buu's location and coerce him to wait 2 days for a strong fighter (Gotenks) and not listen to Babidi. This would cause Buu to kill Babidi. Then subsequent events would go as normal.

I don't think so, the good thing about Goku holding back on this fight was to Vegeta realize by himself the harm he have caused and make the noble decision to sacrifice himself to try fix the things. So having Goku to one shot Vegeta would break him apart and giving himself on hatred and anger.

Also I don't see the need of Goku saving Goten and Trunks as he could simply solve the conflict by:

One shot Vegeta > Instant Transmission > Fight Boo at full power > Kill him > Return to the Afterlife

[Sora Saiyan]

How would Super Saiyan 3 Goku molly-whopping Majin Vegeta have affected the Majin Buu Saga in the grand scheme of things?

Having turned into a Super Saiyan 3 already once, Goku would have less time available on Earth. He would still not be able to sense Gohan's ki. He would save Goten and Trunks and take them to Kami's lookout. With the little time he has left, he would teach them the fusion dance. Then he would teleport to Majin Buu's location and coerce him to wait 2 days for a strong fighter (Gotenks) and not listen to Babidi. This would cause Buu to kill Babidi. Then subsequent events would go as normal.

Why would Buu still be around though? Goku killing Vegeta in one blow wouldn’t give enough energy for Buu to be resurrected. If Goku went all sadistic he would shoot himself in the foot with the Buu situation, but I really can’t see that happening. With their being no challenge around at that stage he could just teleport and destroy Buu’s egg, Babidi, and Dabura there and then. He could teach the boys fusion after if he thinks about it, and he would be around a bit longer to teach them.
If Buu was resurrected then Goku might finish him, it’s hard to call what Goku might do, but I believe it would all come down to whether or not Goku believes Buu is too much of a threat, and if he could turn on Babidi in such a short time. I don’t think he could make that call and may just finish him off, especially if Kaioshin ends up being there with Goku at the time, he would likely influence Goku’s call.

[Steven Bloodriver]

How would Super Saiyan 3 Goku molly-whopping Majin Vegeta have affected the Majin Buu Saga in the grand scheme of things?

Having turned into a Super Saiyan 3 already once, Goku would have less time available on Earth. He would still not be able to sense Gohan's ki. He would save Goten and Trunks and take them to Kami's lookout. With the little time he has left, he would teach them the fusion dance. Then he would teleport to Majin Buu's location and coerce him to wait 2 days for a strong fighter (Gotenks) and not listen to Babidi. This would cause Buu to kill Babidi. Then subsequent events would go as normal.

What if in one of the heated battles of the Piccolo Daimaō Saga of the original Dragon Ball series, right when Master Roshi and Piccolo Daimaō were about to have a throwdown, The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades from the Yu-Gi-Oh! Anime had made his appearance in front of them? With Master Roshi having given his own life in order to have sealed away this new threat for about three years with the Evil Containment Wave? However, The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades manages to leave quite an impression on Master Roshi, Tien Shinhan, Chiaotzu, and even the likes of Piccolo Daimaō, for having all 4 of them feel like they were Videl fighting against Majin Spopovitch just before Master Roshi was able to summon enough of his own willpower to have been able to use his Mafūba on The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades. Only for the very vile villain to have broken right out of his imprisonment within the Electric Rice Cooker and confronted Master Roshi and the other main characters in the 23rd World Martial Arts Tournament, right as Mr. Son Goku and Mr. Piccolo were only a few moments away from tussling like complete and utter madmen for their long awaited match against each other, with The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades killing Master Roshi as vengeance for having been the one responsible for sealing him away in the very first place before having done the exact same thing with both Tien Shinhan and Chiaotzu for their parts, in having distracted him with a Double Solar Flare just long enough for Master Roshi to have done the infamous Mafūba technique on him at just about practically point-blank range.

[shadowfox87]

Why would Buu still be around though? Goku killing Vegeta in one blow wouldn’t give enough energy for Buu to be resurrected. If Goku went all sadistic he would shoot himself in the foot with the Buu situation, but I really can’t see that happening. With their being no challenge around at that stage he could just teleport and destroy Buu’s egg, Babidi, and Dabura there and then. He could teach the boys fusion after if he thinks about it, and he would be around a bit longer to teach them.
If Buu was resurrected then Goku might finish him, it’s hard to call what Goku might do, but I believe it would all come down to whether or not Goku believes Buu is too much of a threat, and if he could turn on Babidi in such a short time. I don’t think he could make that call and may just finish him off, especially if Kaioshin ends up being there with Goku at the time, he would likely influence Goku’s call.

If Goku finished Vegeta off quickly without receiving any damage, then yes, you're right.

What if in one of the heated battles of the Piccolo Daimaō Saga of the original Dragon Ball series, right when Master Roshi and Piccolo Daimaō were about to have a throwdown, The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades from the Yu-Gi-Oh! Anime had made his appearance in front of them? With Master Roshi having given his own life in order to have sealed away this new threat for about three years with the Evil Containment Wave? However, The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades manages to leave quite an impression on Master Roshi, Tien Shinhan, Chiaotzu, and even the likes of Piccolo Daimaō, for having all 4 of them feel like they were Videl fighting against Majin Spopovitch just before Master Roshi was able to summon enough of his own willpower to have been able to use his Mafūba on The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades. Only for the very vile villain to have broken right out of his imprisonment within the Electric Rice Cooker and confronted Master Roshi and the other main characters in the 23rd World Martial Arts Tournament, right as Mr. Son Goku and Mr. Piccolo were only a few moments away from tussling like complete and utter madmen for their long awaited match against each other, with The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades killing Master Roshi as vengeance for having been the one responsible for sealing him away in the very first place before having done the exact same thing with both Tien Shinhan and Chiaotzu for their parts, in having distracted him with a Double Solar Flare just long enough for Master Roshi to have done the infamous Mafūba technique on him at just about practically point-blank range.

You're lucky, I'm also a huge Yugioh fan! Zorc Necrophades is an interesting creature as it gets stronger each time it fights and survives, very much like a Saiyan or Doomsday from Superman. With Master Roshi, Tenshinhan, and Chaotzu dead upon Zorc's revival during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, there are only a few users that have knowledge of the Mafuba. Shen, who is actually Kami, had tried to use the Mafuba prior to Goku and Piccolo's match. However, Piccolo reversed the Mafuba technique and sealed Kami in the jar, eating him. After having witnessed the Mafuba from Kami, Piccolo will try to use the Mafuba technique again while Goku distracts Zorc. Even through Zorc's subsequent revivals and upgrades, his speed is no match for the young Son Goku who has received training from Mr. Popo. Alternatively, if this strategy fails, then Piccolo and Goku will team up and use their most powerful attacks - Bakurikimaha (Explosive Demon Wave) and Super Kamehmeha, in hopes to vaporize this creature once and for all. Since it is not immortal, it can die.

[Steven Bloodriver]

Why would Buu still be around though? Goku killing Vegeta in one blow wouldn’t give enough energy for Buu to be resurrected. If Goku went all sadistic he would shoot himself in the foot with the Buu situation, but I really can’t see that happening. With their being no challenge around at that stage he could just teleport and destroy Buu’s egg, Babidi, and Dabura there and then. He could teach the boys fusion after if he thinks about it, and he would be around a bit longer to teach them.
If Buu was resurrected then Goku might finish him, it’s hard to call what Goku might do, but I believe it would all come down to whether or not Goku believes Buu is too much of a threat, and if he could turn on Babidi in such a short time. I don’t think he could make that call and may just finish him off, especially if Kaioshin ends up being there with Goku at the time, he would likely influence Goku’s call.

If Goku finished Vegeta off quickly without receiving any damage, then yes, you're right.

What if in one of the heated battles of the Piccolo Daimaō Saga of the original Dragon Ball series, right when Master Roshi and Piccolo Daimaō were about to have a throwdown, The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades from the Yu-Gi-Oh! Anime had made his appearance in front of them? With Master Roshi having given his own life in order to have sealed away this new threat for about three years with the Evil Containment Wave? However, The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades manages to leave quite an impression on Master Roshi, Tien Shinhan, Chiaotzu, and even the likes of Piccolo Daimaō, for having all 4 of them feel like they were Videl fighting against Majin Spopovitch just before Master Roshi was able to summon enough of his own willpower to have been able to use his Mafūba on The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades. Only for the very vile villain to have broken right out of his imprisonment within the Electric Rice Cooker and confronted Master Roshi and the other main characters in the 23rd World Martial Arts Tournament, right as Mr. Son Goku and Mr. Piccolo were only a few moments away from tussling like complete and utter madmen for their long awaited match against each other, with The Great Evil God Zorc Necrophades killing Master Roshi as vengeance for having been the one responsible for sealing him away in the very first place before having done the exact same thing with both Tien Shinhan and Chiaotzu for their parts, in having distracted him with a Double Solar Flare just long enough for Master Roshi to have done the infamous Mafūba technique on him at just about practically point-blank range.

You're lucky, I'm also a huge Yugioh fan! Zorc Necrophades is an interesting creature as it gets stronger each time it fights and survives, very much like a Saiyan or Doomsday from Superman. With Master Roshi, Tenshinhan, and Chaotzu dead upon Zorc's revival during the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai, there are only a few users that have knowledge of the Mafuba. Shen, who is actually Kami, had tried to use the Mafuba prior to Goku and Piccolo's match. However, Piccolo reversed the Mafuba technique and sealed Kami in the jar, eating him. After having witnessed the Mafuba from Kami, Piccolo will try to use the Mafuba technique again while Goku distracts Zorc. Even through Zorc's subsequent revivals and upgrades, his speed is no match for the young Son Goku who has received training from Mr. Popo. Alternatively, if this strategy fails, then Piccolo and Goku will team up and use their most powerful attacks - Bakurikimaha (Explosive Demon Wave) and Super Kamehmeha, in hopes to vaporize this creature once and for all. Since it is not immortal, it can die.

I had forgotten Zorc Necrophades was a little like the Saiyans, or rather a lot, if you take the majority of the Saiyans into consideration, but what would have transpired after Son Goku and Mr. Piccolo had kicked the ancient ass of Zorc Necrophades if in this very specific alternative timeline the Dragon Balls can revive the very same exact person at the very least just about twice?

[shadowfox87]

I had forgotten Zorc Necrophades was a little like the Saiyans, or rather a lot, if you take the majority of the Saiyans into consideration, but what would have transpired after Son Goku and Mr. Piccolo had kicked the ancient ass of Zorc Necrophades if in this very specific alternative timeline the Dragon Balls can revive the very same exact person at the very least just about twice?

GIven that Tenshinhan, Chaotzu, and Roshi were already killed once, they would not be able to be revived by Shenron according to the rules. However, years later, after they discover the Namekian Dragon Balls, they could be revived. Alternatively, if Dende upgrades Shenron to be able to revive the same exact person up to two times, then they can also use the Earth Dragon Balls.

[Steven Bloodriver]

I had forgotten Zorc Necrophades was a little like the Saiyans, or rather a lot, if you take the majority of the Saiyans into consideration, but what would have transpired after Son Goku and Mr. Piccolo had kicked the ancient ass of Zorc Necrophades if in this very specific alternative timeline the Dragon Balls can revive the very same exact person at the very least just about twice?

GIven that Tenshinhan, Chaotzu, and Roshi were already killed once, they would not be able to be revived by Shenron according to the rules. However, years later, after they discover the Namekian Dragon Balls, they could be revived. Alternatively, if Dende upgrades Shenron to be able to revive the same exact person up to two times, then they can also use the Earth Dragon Balls.

If Master Roshi, Tien Shinhan, and Chiaotzu had been sent by Kami to have gone training under King Kai in the Great Beyond between near the end of the Piccolo Junior Saga of the Dragon Ball series and right when Porunga was brought forth by Dende in the Namek Saga of the Dragon Ball Z series, how strong would they have become in the more or less than seven years of time?

[Dragon Ball Gus]

What if instead of wishing back the entire universes, Android 17 just wishes back all the contestants, and they all started living in Universe 7?

[Berserker1921]

What if instead of wishing back the entire universes, Android 17 just wishes back all the contestants, and they all started living in Universe 7?

My brother and I actually thought this would have been the original outcome of the series. But in all honesty, they would have to share the universe. To accommodate all the billions upon billions of new beings. 2 gods in the north galaxy, 2 in the south, 2 in the east, and 2 in the west. North galaxy would probably be shared between Beerus and Champa.

This would make Goku sooooo happy. He’d have 70 new rivals, he could fight whenever he wanted. From ribrianne to Jiren. Also when Broly starts to go on his rampage and goes after Goku. He would potentially have to deal with Goku, Vegeta, Jiren, Toppo, and etc. It would be fun and maybe a little hectic. But soo cool.

[Steven Bloodriver]

I had forgotten Zorc Necrophades was a little like the Saiyans, or rather a lot, if you take the majority of the Saiyans into consideration, but what would have transpired after Son Goku and Mr. Piccolo had kicked the ancient ass of Zorc Necrophades if in this very specific alternative timeline the Dragon Balls can revive the very same exact person at the very least just about twice?

GIven that Tenshinhan, Chaotzu, and Roshi were already killed once, they would not be able to be revived by Shenron according to the rules. However, years later, after they discover the Namekian Dragon Balls, they could be revived. Alternatively, if Dende upgrades Shenron to be able to revive the same exact person up to two times, then they can also use the Earth Dragon Balls.

What if in the Return of the Saiyans Saga of the early part of the Dragon Ball Z Anime series, The Great Leviathan from the Waking The Dragons Saga of the Yu-Gi-Oh! Anime series, had made his very perverted presence known from the absolute darkest and deepest depths of the farthest reaches of space to interrupt the battle between most of the Z Fighters of the first generation, Nappa, the Bald Bastard, Vegeta, the Royal Retard, and the Saibamen? About when one of the Z Fighters were about to have an encounter with one of the Saibamen?

[shadowfox87]

What if in the Return of the Saiyans Saga of the early part of the Dragon Ball Z Anime series, The Great Leviathan from the Waking The Dragons Saga of the Yu-Gi-Oh! Anime series, had made his very perverted presence known from the absolute darkest and deepest depths of the farthest reaches of space to interrupt the battle between most of the Z Fighters of the first generation, Nappa, the Bald Bastard, Vegeta, the Royal Retard, and the Saibamen? About when one of the Z Fighters were about to have an encounter with one of the Saibamen?

The Great Leviathan requires souls to get stronger. While in Yugioh terms, his power is immeasurable, and is stated to be infinity, he is still no match for Vegeta and Nappa. Vegeta at that time, had enough power to wipe out the entire planet. The Great Leviathan even at full power, is only capable of creating storms that can destroy a country. Thus, the Great Leviathan would be defeated easily. Vegeta and Nappa would eat it after cooking it after their fight.

[Steven Bloodriver]

What if in the Return of the Saiyans Saga of the early part of the Dragon Ball Z Anime series, The Great Leviathan from the Waking The Dragons Saga of the Yu-Gi-Oh! Anime series, had made his very perverted presence known from the absolute darkest and deepest depths of the farthest reaches of space to interrupt the battle between most of the Z Fighters of the first generation, Nappa, the Bald Bastard, Vegeta, the Royal Retard, and the Saibamen? About when one of the Z Fighters were about to have an encounter with one of the Saibamen?

The Great Leviathan requires souls to get stronger. While in Yugioh terms, his power is immeasurable, and is stated to be infinity, he is still no match for Vegeta and Nappa. Vegeta at that time, had enough power to wipe out the entire planet. The Great Leviathan even at full power, is only capable of creating storms that can destroy a country. Thus, the Great Leviathan would be defeated easily. Vegeta and Nappa would eat it after cooking it after their fight.

What if in the Golden Frieza Saga of Dragon Ball Super, Frieza and Ize had been the ones to have trained for 4 months before going to Earth with the Frieza Force?

[Dragon Ball Gus]

What if Freeza replaced Beerus as God of Destruction after he got revived by Whis, and was actually trained to be neutral enough to be fit for one?

[Ssjcell]

What if Freeza replaced Beerus as God of Destruction after he got revived by Whis, and was actually trained to be neutral enough to be fit for one?

He would be promptly killed by beerus...

[Dragon Ball Gus]

What if Freeza replaced Beerus as God of Destruction after he got revived by Whis, and was actually trained to be neutral enough to be fit for one?

He would be promptly killed by beerus...

Well, that's why I said, if he was actually trained to be neutral enough to be fit for God of Destruction.

[Ssjcell]

What if Freeza replaced Beerus as God of Destruction after he got revived by Whis, and was actually trained to be neutral enough to be fit for one?

He would be promptly killed by beerus...

Well, that's why I said, if he was actually trained to be neutral enough to be fit for God of Destruction.

I just think beerus loves being the god of destruction so he would just kill frieza and let Whis bitch at him about it ...