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Ningen Zero Kekaku would be completed but Black would not reach his peak: the strongest transformation Super Saiyan Rosé without having the chance to fight with Goku in the present.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Ningen Zero Kekaku would be completed but Black would not reach his peak: the strongest transformation Super Saiyan Rosé without having the chance to fight with Goku in the present.
In the manga he achieves it when Vegeta beats the shit out of him, though that wouldn't happen either in this scenario.
Polyphase Avatron wrote:What if Shenron was summoned by Zeno? Considering how he reacted to Beerus
But the question is, would he know Zeno? I don't know about Kami and Dende, but something tells me they probably don't know about Gods higher than Kaioshin/Hakaishin
BlueBasilisk wrote:What if Trunks hired Hit to kill Black?
Considering Trunks somehow was able to go to Universe 6 and contact Hit, I think he would be sucessful. Early Black is probably not a match for SSJ3 Goku, against Hit he would be murdered
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
There wasn't only 28 planets with mortal life on them?
Then we could possibly meet fighters that were as strong and if not as strong as buu and gohan. Maybe someone like Hit. But we will never know. Since kaioshin is shit at his job and countless destruction of thousands of worlds thanks to Beerus, Buu, Frieza, and the saiyans. We don't have that.
What if Vegeta (current) accidentally was pulled back in time and sort of like days of future past. Entered the mind of his younger self from the saiyan saga? What would change and happen?
Berserker1921 wrote:What if Vegeta (current) accidentally was pulled back in time and sort of like days of future past. Entered the mind of his younger self from the saiyan saga? What would change and happen?
Well first off he would be far less aggressive than he was in the Saiyan saga. He goes to Earth instead of Raditz, and helps the Z fighters, there later adventures are also much more successful with Vegeta.
It would be interesting for a point he would be able to match Freeza's full power, so that would be an evenly matched final battle, but my bet that Goku would probably not endure the strain of the Kaioken and Freeza would last enough in his 100% to kill him.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: ↑Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
What if King Kai reported that an existential threat (Cell) to their tiny universe was holding a tournament on the Planet Earth to the Grand Kai, who in turn told the Supreme Kai, who upon hearing this saw the dangers of Babidi getting involved along with the danger of someone stronger than Frieza posing a threat to the entire universe, and then decided he needed to enter? So basically, what if the Supreme Kai and Kabito entered the Cell Games?
And for a second scenario, say that it is the exact same thing, only the Supreme Kai and Kabito fused by mistake beforehand and entered as Kabito Kai?
YajirobiTheGreat wrote:What if King Kai reported that an existential threat (Cell) to their tiny universe was holding a tournament on the Planet Earth to the Grand Kai, who in turn told the Supreme Kai, who upon hearing this saw the dangers of Babidi getting involved along with the danger of someone stronger than Frieza posing a threat to the entire universe, and then decided he needed to enter? So basically, what if the Supreme Kai and Kabito entered the Cell Games?
And for a second scenario, say that it is the exact same thing, only the Supreme Kai and Kabito fused by mistake beforehand and entered as Kabito Kai?
They make no lick of difference. Except maybe the Z sword is broken early, Gohan does the dance, and Cell does the dance as well as Goku deems it unfair if Gohan just got the power up. Cell kills everyone and goes into a deep extensional crisis over the fact that he killed the only fighters who could give him some fun.
Same happens as before except Cell has to work for it this time.
YajirobiTheGreat wrote:What if King Kai reported that an existential threat (Cell) to their tiny universe was holding a tournament on the Planet Earth to the Grand Kai, who in turn told the Supreme Kai, who upon hearing this saw the dangers of Babidi getting involved along with the danger of someone stronger than Frieza posing a threat to the entire universe, and then decided he needed to enter? So basically, what if the Supreme Kai and Kabito entered the Cell Games?
And for a second scenario, say that it is the exact same thing, only the Supreme Kai and Kabito fused by mistake beforehand and entered as Kabito Kai?
They make no lick of difference. Except maybe the Z sword is broken early, Gohan does the dance, and Cell does the dance as well as Goku deems it unfair if Gohan just got the power up. Cell kills everyone and goes into a deep extensional crisis over the fact that he killed the only fighters who could give him some fun.
Same happens as before except Cell has to work for it this time.
Goku would not let Cell power up with Old Kai, Goku only let Cell heal the power he had currently because he knew Gohan would still murder stomp that.
YajirobiTheGreat wrote:What if King Kai reported that an existential threat (Cell) to their tiny universe was holding a tournament on the Planet Earth to the Grand Kai, who in turn told the Supreme Kai, who upon hearing this saw the dangers of Babidi getting involved along with the danger of someone stronger than Frieza posing a threat to the entire universe, and then decided he needed to enter? So basically, what if the Supreme Kai and Kabito entered the Cell Games?
And for a second scenario, say that it is the exact same thing, only the Supreme Kai and Kabito fused by mistake beforehand and entered as Kabito Kai?
They make no lick of difference. Except maybe the Z sword is broken early, Gohan does the dance, and Cell does the dance as well as Goku deems it unfair if Gohan just got the power up. Cell kills everyone and goes into a deep extensional crisis over the fact that he killed the only fighters who could give him some fun.
Same happens as before except Cell has to work for it this time.
Goku would not let Cell power up with Old Kai, Goku only let Cell heal the power he had currently because he knew Gohan would still murder stomp that.
He would still believe that Gohan would murder stomp Cell in this scenario. And it would be unfair in Goku's eyes if Gohan got the power up and Cell didn't get the power up.
Gog wrote:
They make no lick of difference. Except maybe the Z sword is broken early, Gohan does the dance, and Cell does the dance as well as Goku deems it unfair if Gohan just got the power up. Cell kills everyone and goes into a deep extensional crisis over the fact that he killed the only fighters who could give him some fun.
Same happens as before except Cell has to work for it this time.
Goku would not let Cell power up with Old Kai, Goku only let Cell heal the power he had currently because he knew Gohan would still murder stomp that.
He would still believe that Gohan would murder stomp Cell in this scenario. And it would be unfair in Goku's eyes if Gohan got the power up and Cell didn't get the power up.
Goku didn't need Cell to power up when Gohan went ssj2 nor did he ask for Buu's potential to be unlocked.
Goku giving Cell a senzu at the Cell games is far different from Gohan getting his power unlocked.