Freeza's race name?
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Freeza's race name?
So to give this some context. My brother and I have been working on a Dragon Ball boardgame for years and we've decided that we want to actually design a proper board and 3d print some face card holders etc to actually make it LOOK like a professional boardgame as much as possible (check the fanworks thread here: http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =6&t=33199)
In that boardgame you can have four characters and for each character you can choose from six different races including Human, Namekian, Saiyan, Android, Buu and Changeling. The word Changeling is something that stuck since we both grew up with the Funimation dub and all kinds of fanisms. But... what WOULD be the correct term?
I've heard "Freeza Clan" or just "Freeza's Race", but that's extremely vague to me and besides you can choose to look like 20 different Changelings (we have 20 different face cards for each race) and among those face cards are a few forms of Freeza, so calling them "Freeza Clan" or "Freeza's Race" isn't really gonna cut it. Has there ever been a proper name given?
In that boardgame you can have four characters and for each character you can choose from six different races including Human, Namekian, Saiyan, Android, Buu and Changeling. The word Changeling is something that stuck since we both grew up with the Funimation dub and all kinds of fanisms. But... what WOULD be the correct term?
I've heard "Freeza Clan" or just "Freeza's Race", but that's extremely vague to me and besides you can choose to look like 20 different Changelings (we have 20 different face cards for each race) and among those face cards are a few forms of Freeza, so calling them "Freeza Clan" or "Freeza's Race" isn't really gonna cut it. Has there ever been a proper name given?
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The English version of Dragon Ball Xenoverse had Cell call them Frost Demons in some special mission or whatever it was. The Japanese version does not give the race a name.
That's the only time official material has given the race a name other than just calling it Freeza's race/clan AFAIK.
That's the only time official material has given the race a name other than just calling it Freeza's race/clan AFAIK.
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Iiiinteresting. Frost Demons doesn't sound nearly as weird to put on the cards than Freeza Clan. iirc Xenoverse has a character creation option for looking like Freeza's race, right? Let me see if I can find out what they're called there... Same goes for Heroes now that I think about it...dbgtFO wrote:The English version of Dragon Ball Xenoverse had Cell call them Frost Demons in some special mission or whatever it was. The Japanese version does not give the race a name.
That's the only time official material has given the race a name other than just calling it Freeza's race/clan AFAIK.
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Freeza's race name is unknown.However due to Frost,we might finally know what the hell is the name of their race is.Best hopes is we get to see something like.
''This is Frost,a XXX race from Universe 6 vs. Piccolo,a Namekian from Universe 7''
''This is Frost,a XXX race from Universe 6 vs. Piccolo,a Namekian from Universe 7''
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That's probably something to wait on a bit... though I hope it doesn't take super long to find out XD If the character is called Frost though, you'd think they wouldn't be called Frost DemonsSSJ3 Vegeta wrote:Freeza's race name is unknown.However due to Frost,we might finally know what the hell is the name of their race is.Best hopes is we get to see something like.
''This is Frost,a XXX race from Universe 6 vs. Piccolo,a Namekian from Universe 7''
Anyway, as far as I could tell Heroes and Xenoverse use "Freeza Clan"/"Freeza's Race", but honestly that's info from the wikia so I don't know how trustworthy that info is o.o
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It's extremely unlikely anyone working on producing ANYTHING related to the series has any clue what name some English video game translator decided to make up and toss into a scene that originally didn't have a specific name mentioned. Even if they did, it's not like they'd have any reason to care.worldmonsters wrote: That's probably something to wait on a bit... though I hope it doesn't take super long to find out XD If the character is called Frost though, you'd think they wouldn't be called Frost Demons
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True, but I meant that it probably won't be Frost Demons then if that character is already called FrostAdamant wrote:It's extremely unlikely anyone working on producing ANYTHING related to the series has any clue what name some English video game translator decided to make up and toss into a scene that originally didn't have a specific name mentioned. Even if they did, it's not like they'd have any reason to care.worldmonsters wrote: That's probably something to wait on a bit... though I hope it doesn't take super long to find out XD If the character is called Frost though, you'd think they wouldn't be called Frost Demons
However so far Frost Demons seems to be the best name other than "Freeza's Clan"/"Freeza's Race". At least better than Changeling.
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Hopefully, Super will finally get this for us and put this to bed.
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I think originally they didn't have a name because they're mutants. They're supposed to be unique creatures or at least creatures that never existed before. Kind of like if a dinosaur suddenly gave birth to the first chicken ever.
Of course, the video games changed this by introducing many other members of the race.
Of course, the video games changed this by introducing many other members of the race.
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Didn't "Frost Demons" originally come from that Multiverse fan manga?
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Yeah, that and just the whole thing of we need a name for the race for our boardgame :3 So honestly I don't mind that it sort of became its own race even though originally Toriyama might've intended to just have them a one-off family.Marco Polo wrote:I think originally they didn't have a name because they're mutants. They're supposed to be unique creatures or at least creatures that never existed before. Kind of like if a dinosaur suddenly gave birth to the first chicken ever.
Of course, the video games changed this by introducing many other members of the race.
Good question, I dunno But at least it's better than "Changelings".fadeddreams5 wrote:Didn't "Frost Demons" originally come from that Multiverse fan manga?
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They're aliens who transform. Xenomorphs
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If we didn't get a official name in ROF, Freeza own movie, we will probably never know.
Unless someone just directly makes the question to Toriyama.
Unless someone just directly makes the question to Toriyama.
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It's always possible that there are so few of the species in Universe 7 that a name isn't warranted, but that Universe 6 may have a enough of them that we get one.
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There are around about 50+ named races, even for characters like Rasin and Lakasei who if you recall, don't have a whole heap of screen time.TheDevilsCorpse wrote:It's always possible that there are so few of the species in Universe 7 that a name isn't warranted, but that Universe 6 may have a enough of them that we get one.
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We're just going to have to see, but there never really was an opportunity to call Freeza and his species by their name in the series in contrast to Saiya-jin and Namekians, because when talking about them it would be in reference to a huge number of people, while we only see a few from Freeza's clan. Maybe because we're going to see someone of their species is not part of Freeza's clan we're going to get a name Well, the thing is, we just don't know :p We'll just have to wait and see.
Maybe I should re-address the question...
What would be the best name to call Freeza's race without referring to the name Freeza? What would be the name you would agree on, that might not exactly be canon, but is good enough? Like, imagine a board game (or video game) was about to be published and the producers of that game were publicly asking the people on this very forum what they would think would be a proper name to call the species (with all the knowledge we have at this very moment).
I don't think that counts as anything. There was no moment in which it was necessary to call out Freeza's race. Just because the movie is about him doesn't mean that we will never get a name for the species if it wasn't mentioned in there. It has very little to do with one another But yes, someone ask Toriyama if you get the chance, pleaseFortuneSSJ wrote:If we didn't get a official name in ROF, Freeza own movie, we will probably never know.
Unless someone just directly makes the question to Toriyama.
Maybe I should re-address the question...
What would be the best name to call Freeza's race without referring to the name Freeza? What would be the name you would agree on, that might not exactly be canon, but is good enough? Like, imagine a board game (or video game) was about to be published and the producers of that game were publicly asking the people on this very forum what they would think would be a proper name to call the species (with all the knowledge we have at this very moment).
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I think it would be natural for his race to be pointed out, when Freeza blew up Namek's core. Freeza himself or Kaio could have said it was an ability inherent in his race, unlike Saiyans. Same thing in RoF, when he blows up Earth. In that case Whis or Beerus could have revealed his races' name, when talking about why he survived, whle Vegeta didn't.worldmonsters wrote:We're just going to have to see, but there never really was an opportunity to call Freeza and his species by their name in the series in contrast to Saiya-jin and Namekians, because when talking about them it would be in reference to a huge number of people, while we only see a few from Freeza's clan. Maybe because we're going to see someone of their species is not part of Freeza's clan we're going to get a name Well, the thing is, we just don't know :p We'll just have to wait and see.
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I don't think that counts as anything. There was no moment in which it was necessary to call out Freeza's race. Just because the movie is about him doesn't mean that we will never get a name for the species if it wasn't mentioned in there. It has very little to do with one another
I appreciate DB Multiverse's name for the race Frost Demons. At the very least there should be an ice pun, so Changelings and Acrosians do definitely not fit the bill.What would be the best name to call Freeza's race without referring to the name Freeza? What would be the name you would agree on, that might not exactly be canon, but is good enough? Like, imagine a board game (or video game) was about to be published and the producers of that game were publicly asking the people on this very forum what they would think would be a proper name to call the species (with all the knowledge we have at this very moment).
Not sure they should be called Demons though.
Perhaps it should follow the naming conventions of Namekian, Saiyan and Tsufurian, so a japanese pun on some ice-related word and then ian.
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Ah, you make a good point about Kaio and Whis, I hadn't thought of that. Well still..dbgtFO wrote:I think it would be natural for his race to be pointed out, when Freeza blew up Namek's core. Freeza himself or Kaio could have said it was an ability inherent in his race, unlike Saiyans. Same thing in RoF, when he blows up Earth. In that case Whis or Beerus could have revealed his races' name, when talking about why he survived, whle Vegeta didn't.worldmonsters wrote:We're just going to have to see, but there never really was an opportunity to call Freeza and his species by their name in the series in contrast to Saiya-jin and Namekians, because when talking about them it would be in reference to a huge number of people, while we only see a few from Freeza's clan. Maybe because we're going to see someone of their species is not part of Freeza's clan we're going to get a name Well, the thing is, we just don't know :p We'll just have to wait and see.
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I don't think that counts as anything. There was no moment in which it was necessary to call out Freeza's race. Just because the movie is about him doesn't mean that we will never get a name for the species if it wasn't mentioned in there. It has very little to do with one anotherI appreciate DB Multiverse's name for the race Frost Demons. At the very least there should be an ice pun, so Changelings and Acrosians do definitely not fit the bill.What would be the best name to call Freeza's race without referring to the name Freeza? What would be the name you would agree on, that might not exactly be canon, but is good enough? Like, imagine a board game (or video game) was about to be published and the producers of that game were publicly asking the people on this very forum what they would think would be a proper name to call the species (with all the knowledge we have at this very moment).
Not sure they should be called Demons though.
Perhaps it should follow the naming conventions of Namekian, Saiyan and Tsufurian, so a japanese pun on some ice-related word and then ian.
Also I like your thinking about "Frost Demons". Frostians though? We'd need to think of a Toriyama esque name-pun... Namek comes from Namekuji iirc which is japanese for slug or snail and Saiyajin comes from vegetable people. So... Frost-jin? Frostian? Coldian?
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Haha, none of those, it has to be a japanese based wordworldmonsters wrote:Also I like your thinking about "Frost Demons". Frostians though? We'd need to think of a Toriyama esque name-pun... Namek comes from Namekuji iirc which is japanese for slug or snail and Saiyajin comes from vegetable people. So... Frost-jin? Frostian? Coldian?
But yes the literal translation to English would be something like that.
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"The Cold Blooded" would be cool. It would frame their personality, but work better as a clan name. "Reiketsuna" in Japanese, according to Google translator.