The new arc will (may?) settle an old debate: Tenshinhan vs. Kuririn

[Kaboom]

Yep, and the closest thing I saw was a mention that Earth itself is host to multiple races. Which obviously doesn't mean that those other races count as native "Earthlings."

[Tsufuru]

his link showed there are diffrent types of humans and all are generaly called "earthlings".

so when they say krillin is the strongest earthling they mean , he is the strongest all types included.
piccolo , 18, 17 dont belong to the category "earthling" for obviouse reasons.

tien been allways part of the earthlings category.period.

[JulianStyles]

Daizenshuu also mentions Gohan and Piccolo in as Earthlings to. http://magikarp46.com/dragonball/guideb ... ldview.php

Where, exactly, does that page say this? I've been searching for both "Gohan" and "Piccolo" in the text and not seeing it.

Scroll down to various races. Read that all the way to the end of Earthlings.

[JulianStyles]

Yep, and the closest thing I saw was a mention that Earth itself is host to multiple races. Which obviously doesn't mean that those other races count as native "Earthlings."

And one of the races Earth host was the Triclops race.

[JulianStyles]

Remember ROF Krillins bio said the same thing. Tienshinhan still out performed him drastically in the movie and series.

NOTE: Talking about Super's Anime version here.

If by "outperformed drastically" you mean that he needed to use the life risking Kikoho to keep Freeza's second rate hodge podge of soldiers at bay, then yes, he did outperform Kuririn.

Because really, it's not like Kuririn was able to easily defeat several soldiers with a single Ki blast after he regained his confidence (I think that technique is most well known as the "Scatter Shot").

No, Tenshinhan did not "outperform Krillin drastically", it's just because you believe that he should, that you feel he did so.

He out performed him. Wether you want to say drastically or not. Krillin needed to be saved in the movie. Tien saved him in the series. Tien never gets hit in the movie. The Kikoho hasn't be life threatening since the Cell saga when he fired 90+ at Cell. Go ahead count them. Also it's about how much energy he puts in. Any attack can drain you if you put all you have in it. Even in DragonBall, Tien used the Kikoho multiple times after the tournament with out any fatigue. Against Buu he fired 2 assuming at max power with breaking a sweat. Both Piccolo and Gohan used massive Ki attacks. Krillin was to overwhelmed to get one off.

[VegettoEX]

Can you please actually take the time to read your own and others' posts before hitting "submit"? This is a total mess and is getting out of hand. You keep saying the same things over and over (and, to be fair, so do the vast majority of other members in this thread), you triple-post in a row with no regard for the flow of conversation (there's no reason you can't quote multiple people and condense your thoughts into a single post), and so on and so forth.

If this continues, strikes can and will be lodged against your account. Again, if you want the pleasure of coming back here in a year with your "I told you so!" statement, make an effort to keep your account in good standing until then. It's beyond clear that you're not genuinely interested in having a real conversation. At least pretend to.

[JulianStyles]

his link showed there are diffrent types of humans and all are generaly called "earthlings".

so when they say krillin is the strongest earthling they mean , he is the strongest all types included.
piccolo , 18, 17 dont belong to the category "earthling" for obviouse reasons.

tien been allways part of the earthlings category.period.

Obvious reasons? Because they were enhanced by human technology? They were born on Earth and their children are human. It doesn't get any more Earthling than that. Get real. Also the link broken down different types of Earthlings. With a clear graph with a picture of Gohan in the mixed races. If Krillin was the strongest Earthling he should have been able to defeat Garlic Jr. Garlic Jr is a monster type Earthling.

[JulianStyles]

Can you please actually take the time to read your own and others' posts before hitting "submit"? This is a total mess and is getting out of hand. You keep saying the same things over and over (and, to be fair, so do the vast majority of other members in this thread), you triple-post in a row with no regard for the flow of conversation, and so on and so forth.

If this continues, strikes can and will be lodged against your account. Again, if you want the pleasure of coming back here in a year with your "I told you so!" statement, make an effort to keep your account in good standing until then.

I'm responding to post. What rules am I breaking or anyone here?

[VegettoEX]

I'm responding to post. What rules am I breaking or anyone here?

Your entire, single-minded/single-topic agenda is to be antagonistic, you make posts that border on being unintelligible, you make an excessive numbers of posts in a row (there would have been four just now had I not responded in the meantime)... again, enough is enough. If you're not willing to follow the rules you agreed to (twice) prior to registration, we're not willing to have you as a member.

I'm not sure if this is some giant, elaborate joke to waste our time, but we're getting close to its end point.

[Helios518]

Scroll down to various races. Read that all the way to the end of Earthlings.

There's still nothing that says anything about Gohan and Piccolo are Earthlings (You should quote the text that says so). For anything, it mentions how's there 3 types of Earthlings (Human,monster, and animal), the cyclops clans most likely were Earthlings under the monster category, which still makes him Tenshinhan 100% Earthling especially considering a guide refers to him as one.

As for the Cyborgs, we don't know why they aren't referred to as Earthlings but they're not considered one or at least aren't considered when mentioning that Kuririn is the strongest Earthling. Either way it doesn't help your point that you think Tenshinhan is stronger.

Garlic Jr isn't canon so that point is null.

The RoF movie is not part of the DBS anime. So that is also null.

[Akyon]

his link showed there are diffrent types of humans and all are generaly called "earthlings".

so when they say krillin is the strongest earthling they mean , he is the strongest all types included.
piccolo , 18, 17 dont belong to the category "earthling" for obviouse reasons.

tien been allways part of the earthlings category.period.

Obvious reasons? Because they were enhanced by human technology? They were born on Earth and their children are human. It doesn't get any more Earthling than that. Get real. Also the link broken down different types of Earthlings. With a clear graph with a picture of Gohan in the mixed races. If Krillin was the strongest Earthling he should have been able to defeat Garlic Jr. Garlic Jr is a monster type Earthling.

Garlic Jr isn't an Earthling if I recall rightly. Doesn't his race get powered up by an alien sun? Also tbf to Krillin he did shoot a hole through him. That would kill most people who aren't immortal, magic or have crazy regeneration. Alas Garlic Jr was immortal.

At a guess 18 and 17 are artificially enhanced and thus not included since their strength is not their own and comes almost exclusively from their cybernetic parts. Basically take away the alien parts of their human body(that's alien as in foreign to their bodies, not the other type) and it's possible even Chi Chi could kick them around.

Regardless though I don't see how 18 and 17 being Earthling or not help Tien's case of being stronger than Krillin rather than just make Tien at best third or fourth strongest earthling rather than first or second.

[Tsufuru]

Obvious reasons? Because they were enhanced by human technology? They were born on Earth and their children are human. It doesn't get any more Earthling than that. Get real. Also the link broken down different types of Earthlings. With a clear graph with a picture of Gohan in the mixed races. If Krillin was the strongest Earthling he should have been able to defeat Garlic Jr. Garlic Jr is a monster type Earthling.

born on earth does not put you in the "earthling" category.

piccolo was born on earth but he is not an earthling by race.
the cyborgs are not in the same category as krillin , tien , roshi etc.

with earthling they mean actual earthlings in this context. Ppl who are from earth born on earth not cyborgs , namekians , saiyans etc.
tien is a human from a specific race iirc.

sry for double post.

[RandomGuy96]

I see a general statement regarding the tournament itself featuring the "strongest warriors" from all 12 universes, but I don't see a specific statement saying "these are the top ten strongest fighters from Universe 10." Nothing to fuss over.

Either way, looks like Kuririn's still holding on to his title. Gotta love it.

The final paragraph.

These members who have clashed their power and skills together can truly be said to be the strongest 10 people on Earth now. It seems that Goku plans on improving his ki power and stamina by training with Kuririn in preparation to fight the strong opponents ahead. We're looking forward to Goku's further evolution.

Roshi > SS3 Gotenks confirmed

[The_Destroyer]

I highly doubt that "10 strongest fighters" line means that Roshi is stronger than Goten,Trunks, and Yamcha. I mean I guess it could see it being the case post Whis training or whatever, but still, weird statement.

[JulianStyles]

Lol the title of my topic was changed? If people want to take statements so literal with out using common sense. Then Roshi is stronger than: Yamcha,Choutzu,Yajorobi,Goten,Trunks

[Gog]

I see a general statement regarding the tournament itself featuring the "strongest warriors" from all 12 universes, but I don't see a specific statement saying "these are the top ten strongest fighters from Universe 10." Nothing to fuss over.

Either way, looks like Kuririn's still holding on to his title. Gotta love it.

The final paragraph.

These members who have clashed their power and skills together can truly be said to be the strongest 10 people on Earth now. It seems that Goku plans on improving his ki power and stamina by training with Kuririn in preparation to fight the strong opponents ahead. We're looking forward to Goku's further evolution.

Roshi > SS3 Gotenks confirmed

That lines false, as I don't see the champ leading the charge

[Lord Frieza]

I've thought about this and you know what? I really don't care who's stronger anymore.

I like them both and both of them always step up to the plate and fight to protect the world when it needs them too. I doesn't matter who stronger, their heroes and they try their best despite being so out of their depth. Thats all that matters to me.

[TheZFighter]

I've thought about this and you know what? I really don't care who's stronger anymore.

I like them both and both of them always step up to the plate and fight to protect the world when it needs them too. I doesn't matter who stronger, their heroes and they try their best despite being so out of their depth. Thats all that matters to me.

I have to say I'm very much in this camp now as well. When I began following this series as an 8/ 9/ 10/ 11 year old, I was quite into the strength debates and was pretty obsessed with power levels, but I'm 26 now. I find the whole thing pretty boring, close-minded and limiting, story-wise.

I like the Krillin character, I like Tien character more. I'd prefer it if Tien were the stronger as I think it'd be fair reward for his lifetime commitment to training and being as strong as he can be, but if he isn't, so what?

At the end of the day, we all just hope for a better, less Super Saiyan-heavy story.

[Saturnine]

I still think it's possible Tien might be stronger. Yamcha's sentiment about Krillin being the strongest Earthling was in relation to the Cell Games. No one has ever seen or interacted with Tien since, no one knows what kind of growth he underwent.

[Akyon]

I honestly just want this debate to be done with.

If Tenshinhan turns out to be stronger it's not going to make me suddenly like him more than Krillin, likewise if Krillin is stronger it's not going to make Tenshinhan fans like him more.

Probably the opposite judging by this thread!