Question about the Freeza Race?
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Question about the Freeza Race?
My sister told me one day that Freeza and his family are abnormally strong for their race. Well I have never heard this and I know the Dragon Ball community has a huge problem with miss information. So could y'all help and tell me if is this true or another lie?
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They are mutants of the arcosians, and are in fact stronger than them all.
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Thank You.
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Your welcome!tmak01 wrote:Thank You.
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This information came from Toriyama's Super Q & A for the March 2014 issue of Saikyō Jumptmak01 wrote:My sister told me one day that Freeza and his family are abnormally strong for their race. Well I have never heard this and I know the Dragon Ball community has a huge problem with miss information. So could y'all help and tell me if is this true or another lie?
So your sister is not entirely mistaken, though it should be specified that Toriyama is speaking only of Freeza and Cold.About how many of Freeza’s race are there? Are they quite thriving, with a big population?
Freeza is what you might call a mutated life-form. Strictly speaking, Freeza’s father is a mutant with an abnormally high battle power. And, born from his father alone4, still in strong possession of the mutant traits, was Freeza.
Accordingly, even saying “Freeza’s race”, these two are the only ones who possess an abnormal [level of] battle power and cruelty.
4 It is unclear whether Toriyama means Freeza was born from only one parent, or emphasizing that only Cold carried these traits.
Their race isn't called Arcosian. Officially, Freeza's race has no name whatsoever, and Arcosian was an early Funimation dub (when they were partnered with Saban) name for a filler-only race (with no name in the original anime) that has no connection to Freeza whatsoever.Gog wrote:They are mutants of the arcosians, and are in fact stronger than them all.
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But its the only thing I have to call them besides what? Frieza race?Darkprince410 wrote:This information came from Toriyama's Super Q & A for the March 2014 issue of Saikyō Jumptmak01 wrote:My sister told me one day that Freeza and his family are abnormally strong for their race. Well I have never heard this and I know the Dragon Ball community has a huge problem with miss information. So could y'all help and tell me if is this true or another lie?
So your sister is not entirely mistaken, though it should be specified that Toriyama is speaking only of Freeza and Cold.About how many of Freeza’s race are there? Are they quite thriving, with a big population?
Freeza is what you might call a mutated life-form. Strictly speaking, Freeza’s father is a mutant with an abnormally high battle power. And, born from his father alone4, still in strong possession of the mutant traits, was Freeza.
Accordingly, even saying “Freeza’s race”, these two are the only ones who possess an abnormal [level of] battle power and cruelty.
4 It is unclear whether Toriyama means Freeza was born from only one parent, or emphasizing that only Cold carried these traits.
Their race isn't called Arcosian. Officially, Freeza's race has no name whatsoever, and Arcosian was an early Funimation dub (when they were partnered with Saban) name for a filler-only race (with no name in the original anime) that has no connection to Freeza whatsoever.Gog wrote:They are mutants of the arcosians, and are in fact stronger than them all.
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It at least would be the accurate term for them. They have no official name at all, and the race that is called Arcosian in the Funimation dub has no resemblance or connection to Freeza at all.Gog wrote:
But its the only thing I have to call them besides what? Frieza race?
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But how do they have no resemblance? There all small hooded people... Wait a minuteDarkprince410 wrote:It at least would be the accurate term for them. They have no official name at all, and the race that is called Arcosian in the Funimation dub has no resemblance or connection to Freeza at all.Gog wrote:
But its the only thing I have to call them besides what? Frieza race?
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I'm afraid you might be! The classification has no basis in official sources outside of FUNimation's interpretation. They're never named in the original conversation nor is it a reference to Freeza.
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Yeah, I know, I only use the term Arcosian to refer to them, its not their actual name, and its a total dubism, but its got the arctic pun, and I don't like to call them Frieza's race, so I'm stuck with itNejishiki wrote:I'm afraid you might be! The classification has no basis in official sources outside of FUNimation's interpretation. They're never named in the original conversation nor is it a reference to Freeza.
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Only Frieza and King Cold are mutants, though I imagine Cooler could be one because he's on their level.
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I imagine that Coola is a mutant, in that he can transform, but he aint' a prodigy, which would explain why he's so hilariously weakfloofychan333 wrote:Only Frieza and King Cold are mutants, though I imagine Cooler could be one because he's on their level.
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Cooler isn't canon and Toriyama didn't consider him at all when making that statement. If he was canon he would be the same as King Cold and Frieza. I think he would probably be more of a prodigy than Cold, but less than Frieza.Gog wrote:I imagine that Coola is a mutant, in that he can transform, but he aint' a prodigy, which would explain why he's so hilariously weakfloofychan333 wrote:Only Frieza and King Cold are mutants, though I imagine Cooler could be one because he's on their level.
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Yeah he's non canon, but from the movie, he was equal to base form Goku in his finial augmentation formdragon boss z wrote:Cooler isn't canon and Toriyama didn't consider him at all when making that statement. If he was canon he would be the same as King Cold and Frieza. I think he would probably be more of a prodigy than Cold, but less than Frieza.Gog wrote:I imagine that Coola is a mutant, in that he can transform, but he aint' a prodigy, which would explain why he's so hilariously weakfloofychan333 wrote:Only Frieza and King Cold are mutants, though I imagine Cooler could be one because he's on their level.
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How is Cooler hilariously weak? Goku was barely able to fend him off after going SSJ, just like with Frieza.Gog wrote:Yeah he's non canon, but from the movie, he was equal to base form Goku in his finial augmentation formdragon boss z wrote:Cooler isn't canon and Toriyama didn't consider him at all when making that statement. If he was canon he would be the same as King Cold and Frieza. I think he would probably be more of a prodigy than Cold, but less than Frieza.Gog wrote:
I imagine that Coola is a mutant, in that he can transform, but he aint' a prodigy, which would explain why he's so hilariously weak
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You must mean meta Coola, because in the first movie, Coola in his finial augmentation form was as strong as base form Goku, and his fifth form was as strong as kaio ken times fourfloofychan333 wrote:How is Cooler hilariously weak? Goku was barely able to fend him off after going SSJ, just like with Frieza.Gog wrote:Yeah he's non canon, but from the movie, he was equal to base form Goku in his finial augmentation formdragon boss z wrote:
Cooler isn't canon and Toriyama didn't consider him at all when making that statement. If he was canon he would be the same as King Cold and Frieza. I think he would probably be more of a prodigy than Cold, but less than Frieza.
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He might not of been at full power.Gog wrote:Yeah he's non canon, but from the movie, he was equal to base form Goku in his finial augmentation formdragon boss z wrote:Cooler isn't canon and Toriyama didn't consider him at all when making that statement. If he was canon he would be the same as King Cold and Frieza. I think he would probably be more of a prodigy than Cold, but less than Frieza.Gog wrote:
I imagine that Coola is a mutant, in that he can transform, but he aint' a prodigy, which would explain why he's so hilariously weak
And Cooler's fith form flew through Goku's times 20 kaioken kamehameha, I have no idea where you are getting he is only as strong as kaioken x4. And his supernova almost beat ssj Goku.
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No he was at full power, Coola was stated to have mastered the finial augmentation form, and Goku never once stated what level of Kaio ken he was atdragon boss z wrote:He might not of been at full power.Gog wrote:Yeah he's non canon, but from the movie, he was equal to base form Goku in his finial augmentation formdragon boss z wrote:
Cooler isn't canon and Toriyama didn't consider him at all when making that statement. If he was canon he would be the same as King Cold and Frieza. I think he would probably be more of a prodigy than Cold, but less than Frieza.
And Cooler's fith form flew through Goku's times 20 kaioken kamehameha, I have no idea where you are getting he is only as strong as kaioken x4. And his supernova almost beat ssj Goku.
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Cooler was never stated to be at full power nor was it stated he mastered his final form. Mecha Frieza also seemed to have his final form mastered and he was confirmed to not be at full power when he arrived.Gog wrote:No he was at full power, Coola was stated to have mastered the finial augmentation form, and Goku never once stated what level of Kaio ken he was atdragon boss z wrote:He might not of been at full power.Gog wrote:
Yeah he's non canon, but from the movie, he was equal to base form Goku in his finial augmentation form
And Cooler's fith form flew through Goku's times 20 kaioken kamehameha, I have no idea where you are getting he is only as strong as kaioken x4. And his supernova almost beat ssj Goku.
And if it was never stated what kaioken Goku used why would you say x4 then? That is hypocritical. I'm saying he used x20 because it is only logical he would use his strongest kaioken. At the minimum I would say he was using x10.
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Okay lets say that coola was at 50% of his full power, Goku was going toe, to toe with him in battle. No Mecha Freeza didn't have his finial form mastered, he was just at a lowered state of power.dragon boss z wrote:Cooler was never stated to be at full power nor was it stated he mastered his final form. Mecha Frieza also seemed to have his final form mastered and he was confirmed to not be at full power when he arrived.Gog wrote:No he was at full power, Coola was stated to have mastered the finial augmentation form, and Goku never once stated what level of Kaio ken he was atdragon boss z wrote:
He might not of been at full power.
And Cooler's fith form flew through Goku's times 20 kaioken kamehameha, I have no idea where you are getting he is only as strong as kaioken x4. And his supernova almost beat ssj Goku.
And if it was never stated what kaioken Goku used why would you say x4 then? That is hypocritical. I'm saying he used x20 because it is only logical he would use his strongest kaioken. At the minimum I would say he was using x10.
Because Goku likes a good fight, and he was probably using kaio ken times by seven or something. Coola was the weakling of the family