Why is Goku bored?

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Why is Goku bored?

Post by Doctor. » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:46 pm

Let's think about it. By the time the arc starts, he's still weaker than Merged Zamasu and Black (and Monaka, as far as he knows), and is on the same level as Vegeta and Hit. Zamasu and Black are dead, so let's cross them off. Let's assume he figured out Monaka is a fraud. And Kaioken takes care of Hit and Vegeta, fine. However, he has yet to surpass Beerus and Whis, let alone the Grand Priest or the Omni-King. Beerus alone should provide him with all the entertainment he needs (and Beerus himself would love to fight a strong Goku, that's the entire point of BoG). So, what gives? Is Goku just easily bored all of the sudden and he needs a constant stream of different, powerful opponents coming at him?

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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by Gog » Sun Mar 19, 2017 9:53 pm

Doctor. wrote: Is Goku just easily bored all of the sudden and he needs a constant stream of different, powerful opponents coming at him?

That's the most likely explanation. It's probably a case of Goku wants something new, he's a thrill seeker of sorts, Vegeta's old news, Beerus and Whis are no fun, Monaka's too dangerous, and Hit's shinctk is getting old.

He wants new, he wants exciting.

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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by Ki Breaker » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:21 pm

He probably knows he can't surpass berrus anytime soon so he is trying to find opponents he can surpass and learn from resulting in him finally surpassing berrus..
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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:50 pm

Gog wrote:
Doctor. wrote: Is Goku just easily bored all of the sudden and he needs a constant stream of different, powerful opponents coming at him?

That's the most likely explanation. It's probably a case of Goku wants something new, he's a thrill seeker of sorts, Vegeta's old news, Beerus and Whis are no fun, Monaka's too dangerous, and Hit's shinctk is getting old.

He wants new, he wants exciting.
Goku is like a drug addict when it comes to fighting. He always need his fix or he gets agitated.

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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:55 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Gog wrote:
Doctor. wrote: Is Goku just easily bored all of the sudden and he needs a constant stream of different, powerful opponents coming at him?

That's the most likely explanation. It's probably a case of Goku wants something new, he's a thrill seeker of sorts, Vegeta's old news, Beerus and Whis are no fun, Monaka's too dangerous, and Hit's shinctk is getting old.

He wants new, he wants exciting.
Goku is like a drug addict when it comes to fighting. He always need his fix or he gets agitated.
Which is why I really wanna see a story where he runs out of them and Oob fails to satisfy him, kind of like GT but with a darker twist.
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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by Gog » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:56 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Gog wrote:

That's the most likely explanation. It's probably a case of Goku wants something new, he's a thrill seeker of sorts, Vegeta's old news, Beerus and Whis are no fun, Monaka's too dangerous, and Hit's shinctk is getting old.

He wants new, he wants exciting.
Goku is like a drug addict when it comes to fighting. He always need his fix or he gets agitated.
Which is why I really wanna see a story where he runs out of them and Oob fails to satisfy him, kind of like GT but with a darker twist.
So he turns into Beerus 2.0 then? Traveling through the stars searching for worthy opponents at any cost.

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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:59 pm

Gog wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: Goku is like a drug addict when it comes to fighting. He always need his fix or he gets agitated.
Which is why I really wanna see a story where he runs out of them and Oob fails to satisfy him, kind of like GT but with a darker twist.
So he turns into Beerus 2.0 then? Traveling through the stars searching for worthy opponents at any cost.
I would be so down for a show like. Travelling the universe, while causing unnecessary destruction in an attempt to satisfy his battle boner.

Oh, wait. There is a show like that: it's called Dragon Ball Z.

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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:59 pm

Gog wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote: Goku is like a drug addict when it comes to fighting. He always need his fix or he gets agitated.
Which is why I really wanna see a story where he runs out of them and Oob fails to satisfy him, kind of like GT but with a darker twist.
So he turns into Beerus 2.0 then? Traveling through the stars searching for worthy opponents at any cost.
Probably with some Perfect Cell thrown in where he'd intentionally antagonize people. It could even get more interesting with the DBs so he could rationalize any casualties he makes as pointless since he can always deus ex machina everything back to normal.
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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:04 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Gog wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote: Which is why I really wanna see a story where he runs out of them and Oob fails to satisfy him, kind of like GT but with a darker twist.
So he turns into Beerus 2.0 then? Traveling through the stars searching for worthy opponents at any cost.
Probably with some Perfect Cell thrown in where he'd intentionally antagonize people. It could even get more interesting with the DBs so he could rationalize any casualties he makes as pointless since he can always deus ex machina everything back to normal.
Real talk: I'd love it if Super took the idea of Goku going from a classical hero to an outright anti-villain with what they're setting up in the Universal Survival arc. A lot fans may not like that idea, but I would find it very interesting and a great way to spice up Goku's character.

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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:12 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:
Gog wrote:
So he turns into Beerus 2.0 then? Traveling through the stars searching for worthy opponents at any cost.
Probably with some Perfect Cell thrown in where he'd intentionally antagonize people. It could even get more interesting with the DBs so he could rationalize any casualties he makes as pointless since he can always deus ex machina everything back to normal.
Real talk: I'd love it if Super took the idea Goku going from classical hero to an outright anti-villain with what they're setting up in the Universal Survival arc. A lot fan may not like that idea, but I would find it very interesting and great way to spice up Goku's character.
Which is precisely why it won't happen ;)

Toriyama's got no juice left in the creative tank, Toyotaro is the most generic thing ever and the Toei staff might have some good ideas but the production & Toriyama are gonna screw whatever ideas they have.
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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by Captain Strawberry » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:17 am

After thinking about it, I think it's just for the sake of story. There's a likely chance that the word "Strong" will come out of Goku's mouth and that I guess is what sort of drives the story.
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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by TheMikado » Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:25 am

Was Goku bored prior to the Saiyan arc? Goku seemed pretty content there. I'm not sure why finding out he's from a battle hungry warrior race would change something he's already achieved. I don't think there's an in-universe explanation for it and really just comes done to driving the plot forward for the sake of making new stories.

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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:16 pm

[quote="Lord Beerus]I would be so down for a show like. Travelling the universe, while causing unnecessary destruction in an attempt to satisfy his battle boner.

Oh, wait. There is a show like that: it's called Dragon Ball Z.[/quote]
You sure about that? I thought you were talking about Super.... man. IIRC in Z, Goku always avoided causing as much collateral damage as possible.

Anyways, he's bored cause Chi-Chi won't give him that chichi.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: Why is Goku bored?

Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Mar 22, 2017 4:26 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:I would be so down for a show like. Travelling the universe, while causing unnecessary destruction in an attempt to satisfy his battle boner.

Oh, wait. There is a show like that: it's called Dragon Ball Z.
You sure about that? I thought you were talking about Super.... man. IIRC in Z, Goku always avoided causing as much collateral damage as possible.

Anyways, he's bored cause Chi-Chi won't give him that chichi.
Why is why instead of preventing the androids from being activated, Goku decides to train instead because he wants to fight and why Goku choose not to use SSJ3 to defeat Majin Boo or Vegeta easily when he could have.

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