The 31 (or there abouts) mortal inhabited planets of the Dragon Ball World

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Re: The 31 (or there abouts) mortal inhabited planets of the Dragon Ball World

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Mar 26, 2017 6:51 pm

Neat, this means that Toriyama has had this idea for quite awhile, and just never bothered to make it obvious.
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Re: The 31 (or there abouts) mortal inhabited planets of the Dragon Ball World

Post by Marco Polo » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:17 pm

Speedster wrote:Here are all 28 planets showing in Sorbet’s simulation in episode 19 – surprising consistency for Dragonball Super! Notice also that the planets in red-orange (19-20 planets) are presumably those that are said would fall under their control once Freeza leads the force again (said they will gain control of about 70% of the universe and 19-20 planets out of 28 is 67.8-71.4%)
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Canon – still existing
1. Earth
2. New Namek – new home of Namekians
3. Yardrat
4. Planet that Beerus split in half in episode 1
5. Freeza planet 79
6. Freeza planet 448
7. Planet Wagashi - Monaka's planet
8. Metamor – home planet of Metamorians
9. Zuno’s planet
10. Planet of Darkness – Yakkon’s planet (likely uninhabited/mostly uninhabited)
11. Planet Zoon – Pui Pui’s planet (likely uninhabited/mostly uninhabited)
12. Jaco’s planet – it is implied he has a race
13. Octo planet – home-world of the Galactic king’s race

DBS filler (anime/manga) – still existing
14. Planet Snak - (DBS episode 15)
15. Planet Potaufeu (DBS episodes 43-45)
16. Planet where Jaco’s is having a break eating and criminal Watagash escapes
17. Planet Manu – Referenced by Beerus in DBS episode 25 as inhabited by giant toads whose brains are like Earth’s strawberries.
18. Freeza planet 17 – head-courters of Freeza’s army under Sorbet (Toyotaro’s Dragon Ball Z - Rebirth of F special manga)

DBZ filler – still existing
19. Fake Namek
20. Planet where the orphan kids from DBZ episode 39-40 settled.

DBGT – still existing
21. Gelbo - planet with intense seismic activity
22. Planet Imecka
23. Planet Luud
24. M-2 – Home of Dr. Myuu and the Machine Mutants
25. Planet Monmaasu
26. Pital – hospital planet
27. Rudeeze
28. Tigere

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Canon - destroyed or native population eradicated
1. Planet where Bardock was fighting in Dragonball Minus
2. Planet where Vegeta and Radditz were on when Planet Vegeta was destroyed
3. Planet where Vegeta and Nappa were on when Radditz was killed on Earth
4. Planet where Saiyans first used the fake moon technique to transform into Oozarus.
5. Planet Plant (renamed to Vegeta) – original home of Tsufurujins - DESTROYED
6. Planet Sadal - original home of Saiyans – DESTROYED
7. Original Planet Namek - DESTROYED

DBS filler - destroyed
8. Planet shown in episode 2 – DESTROYED by Beerus

DBZ filler and Bardock special – destroyed or native population eradicated
9. Tritek – Z filler – native population liked killed by the Saiyans and Saibamen
10. Planet Shikk – Z filler – native population likely eradicated by the Saiyans
11. Planet visited by Vegeta while searching for Goku in space and killed a bunch of Appule-like Freeza soldiers
12. Planet Kanassa - Bardock special – native population eradicated by the Saiyans
13. Planet Meat - Bardock special – native population killed by the Saiyans
14. Planet of origin of the orphan kids in DBZ episodes 39-40.
15. Planet Arlia - Z filler – DESTROYED
16-18. Three planets shown in DBZ episode 278 destroyed by kid Buu while searching for strong people on other planets - DESTROYED

DBGT – Destroyed
19. Eros – DESTROYED one year after the local Black star Dragonballs were used.
So is New Namek on Sorbet's map? Wasn't the reason they went after the Earth's Dragon Balls was because they couldn't find New Namek?

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Re: The 31 (or there abouts) mortal inhabited planets of the Dragon Ball World

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Mar 27, 2017 6:34 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
Speedster wrote:Here are all 28 planets showing in Sorbet’s simulation in episode 19 – surprising consistency for Dragonball Super! Notice also that the planets in red-orange (19-20 planets) are presumably those that are said would fall under their control once Freeza leads the force again (said they will gain control of about 70% of the universe and 19-20 planets out of 28 is 67.8-71.4%)
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Canon – still existing
1. Earth
2. New Namek – new home of Namekians
3. Yardrat
4. Planet that Beerus split in half in episode 1
5. Freeza planet 79
6. Freeza planet 448
7. Planet Wagashi - Monaka's planet
8. Metamor – home planet of Metamorians
9. Zuno’s planet
10. Planet of Darkness – Yakkon’s planet (likely uninhabited/mostly uninhabited)
11. Planet Zoon – Pui Pui’s planet (likely uninhabited/mostly uninhabited)
12. Jaco’s planet – it is implied he has a race
13. Octo planet – home-world of the Galactic king’s race

DBS filler (anime/manga) – still existing
14. Planet Snak - (DBS episode 15)
15. Planet Potaufeu (DBS episodes 43-45)
16. Planet where Jaco’s is having a break eating and criminal Watagash escapes
17. Planet Manu – Referenced by Beerus in DBS episode 25 as inhabited by giant toads whose brains are like Earth’s strawberries.
18. Freeza planet 17 – head-courters of Freeza’s army under Sorbet (Toyotaro’s Dragon Ball Z - Rebirth of F special manga)

DBZ filler – still existing
19. Fake Namek
20. Planet where the orphan kids from DBZ episode 39-40 settled.

DBGT – still existing
21. Gelbo - planet with intense seismic activity
22. Planet Imecka
23. Planet Luud
24. M-2 – Home of Dr. Myuu and the Machine Mutants
25. Planet Monmaasu
26. Pital – hospital planet
27. Rudeeze
28. Tigere

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Canon - destroyed or native population eradicated
1. Planet where Bardock was fighting in Dragonball Minus
2. Planet where Vegeta and Radditz were on when Planet Vegeta was destroyed
3. Planet where Vegeta and Nappa were on when Radditz was killed on Earth
4. Planet where Saiyans first used the fake moon technique to transform into Oozarus.
5. Planet Plant (renamed to Vegeta) – original home of Tsufurujins - DESTROYED
6. Planet Sadal - original home of Saiyans – DESTROYED
7. Original Planet Namek - DESTROYED

DBS filler - destroyed
8. Planet shown in episode 2 – DESTROYED by Beerus

DBZ filler and Bardock special – destroyed or native population eradicated
9. Tritek – Z filler – native population liked killed by the Saiyans and Saibamen
10. Planet Shikk – Z filler – native population likely eradicated by the Saiyans
11. Planet visited by Vegeta while searching for Goku in space and killed a bunch of Appule-like Freeza soldiers
12. Planet Kanassa - Bardock special – native population eradicated by the Saiyans
13. Planet Meat - Bardock special – native population killed by the Saiyans
14. Planet of origin of the orphan kids in DBZ episodes 39-40.
15. Planet Arlia - Z filler – DESTROYED
16-18. Three planets shown in DBZ episode 278 destroyed by kid Buu while searching for strong people on other planets - DESTROYED

DBGT – Destroyed
19. Eros – DESTROYED one year after the local Black star Dragonballs were used.
So is New Namek on Sorbet's map? Wasn't the reason they went after the Earth's Dragon Balls was because they couldn't find New Namek?
You're right. Fuck. Now we gotta chalk this up as a plot hole, unless they didn't know specifically which planet actually belonged to the Namekians. But this would make the Freeza's army incredibly stupid. But then again, the empire crumbled when Freeza died so they probably didn't have the time and resources to search the universe and go planet hopping. And even if they did find Namek, Freeza's army would their arses handed to them by the Warrior Namekians, considering what was left of Freeza's army were total scrubs that even Roshi and Jaco could easily defeat. And Sorbet's leadership was garbage.

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Re: The 31 (or there abouts) mortal inhabited planets of the Dragon Ball World

Post by Beek King » Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:43 pm

My new theory is that Toei made up this 28 planet thing by taking a glance at that shot, counting all the planets and not taking the New Namek thing into account. Because these must be all the inhabited planets in the universe and not just a random map.
I stand that this is still supreme bullshit that breaks things established before. And I don't buy the "Freeza/Buu blew most of them up" thing because they would have stated that instead of specifically singling out Sadal, Vegeta and old Namek.
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Re: The 31 (or there abouts) mortal inhabited planets of the Dragon Ball World

Post by Speedster » Mon Mar 27, 2017 9:52 pm

Marco Polo wrote:So is New Namek on Sorbet's map? Wasn't the reason they went after the Earth's Dragon Balls was because they couldn't find New Namek?
But they know that New Namek exists. It was a simulation – not a map. Purpose of the simulation was to show that with Freeza leading the force again they will get hold of 19-20 planets out of the 28 with mortal life - i.e. around 70% of the universe. Probably their simulation considered several assumptions regarding New Namek's location and the ease of it being captured - and maybe even put New Namek to be one of those 8-9 that woulnd't fall under their control. Of course one of those uncaptured 8 would be Earth too due to Goku ("who even beat Majin Buu") currently residing there.

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Re: The 31 (or there abouts) mortal inhabited planets of the Dragon Ball World

Post by Riczi » Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:20 am

What about planets destroyed by Vados and Champa while searching for Super Dragon Balls?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YudNv0bm9NQ

There's also Tech-Tech planet. Tarble met his wife there.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Mar 29, 2017 3:02 pm

Riczi wrote:What about planets destroyed by Vados and Champa while searching for Super Dragon Balls?
There's no indication that it hosted any life.
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Re: The 31 (or there abouts) mortal inhabited planets of the Dragon Ball World

Post by Marco Polo » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:01 pm

Riczi wrote:There's also Tech-Tech planet. Tarble met his wife there.
Not canon

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Post by Deathbringer » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:10 pm

How about Planet Litt, where Vegeta said the Freeza force got their stretchy uniforms from

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Re: The 31 (or there abouts) mortal inhabited planets of the Dragon Ball World

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:34 pm

A certain Planet Mayonnai was mentioned being in Universe 6, meaning that there's bound to be one on Universe 7 as well. Same with the planet shown in the Frost flashback, the one where he's holding the child on his shoulder. Has Metamor been mentioned yet?
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Re: The 31 (or there abouts) mortal inhabited planets of the Dragon Ball World

Post by nickzambuto » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:22 pm

I'm not caught up with Super, but how can there be only 31 inhabited planets in the entire universe when we know that Freeza conquered at least 400? Did he just "conquer" planets completely devoid of life?

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:23 pm

nickzambuto wrote:I'm not caught up with Super, but how can there be only 31 inhabited planets in the entire universe when we know that Freeza conquered at least 400? Did he just "conquer" planets completely devoid of life?
Did we know that? If we did, consider it a plothole.
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Post by Doctor. » Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:57 pm

nickzambuto wrote:I'm not caught up with Super, but how can there be only 31 inhabited planets in the entire universe when we know that Freeza conquered at least 400? Did he just "conquer" planets completely devoid of life?
We know he specifically wiped out the planet's sentient life so I don't see the problem.

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Post by Riczi » Fri Mar 31, 2017 6:53 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
Riczi wrote:There's also Tech-Tech planet. Tarble met his wife there.
Not canon
You have DBGT planets on this list, so...

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Post by Deathbringer » Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:15 am

nickzambuto wrote:I'm not caught up with Super, but how can there be only 31 inhabited planets in the entire universe when we know that Freeza conquered at least 400? Did he just "conquer" planets completely devoid of life?
It's possible that he may have taken the strongest warriors into his army and then killed the rest of the population. It's also possible that he may have taken over uninhabited planets so that he could take things like precious or rare resources and sell them off or use them himself. Not just this but when it's stated to only be 31 "inhabited planets" the words they actually used were "ningen"/humans/mortals so it's possible that there are loads of planets out there with non-intelligent animals on them.

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Post by nickzambuto » Sat Apr 01, 2017 11:45 am

So can we actually blame Freeza for the low mortal level of universe 7?

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:10 pm

nickzambuto wrote:So can we actually blame Freeza for the low mortal level of universe 7?
The blamed has to be shared among Kaioshin, Freeza, Beerus and Majin Boo. Ironically, I think Kaioshin deserves the least amount of blame because he couldn't oversee the universe properly as he had his hands full with tailing Babidi in his pursuit of trying to resurrect Majin Boo. But despite that, he's been shown to be incredibly uneducated about his universe. The Gods in Universe 7 are historically know to suck at their jobs and now their incompetence and lackadaisical nature of overseeing their own universe is coming back to bite them in the ass.

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Post by Deathbringer » Sat Apr 01, 2017 12:58 pm

nickzambuto wrote:So can we actually blame Freeza for the low mortal level of universe 7?
We can also blame the Saiyans by extension because they were able to send off their babies to wipe out whole populations.

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Re: The 31 (or there abouts) mortal inhabited planets of the Dragon Ball World

Post by Ozotto » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:15 am

At any point, any of these known planets could have suffered a natural disaster or catastrophe, which eliminated or killed off all living being on that planet.
So if they don't appear in Super, that'll be my head canon, even though it's more likely the writers just forgot.

Also I don't have a problem with U7 only having 28 planets with mortal sapiens.
I have nothing to compare the scale to, in real life the only planet I know with sapient life is Earth.
Mathematic probability equations aside... All I know is that I know nothing... For all I know the 28 mortal planets is accurate.
Even if it isn't accurate... there's no reason to compare a fictional universe to a real one... or to expect them to be composed of the same celestial population densities..

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