Krillin the planet buster?
Moderators: General Help, Kanzenshuu Staff
- Lord Beerus
- Namekian Warrior
- Posts: 21389
- Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:20 pm
- Location: A temple on a giant tree
- Contact:
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
At this stage, Krillin just powering up should reduce the Earth to space dust considering what Vegeta was able to do when he just powered up back in the Saiyan arc.
EDIT: To be more specific, after Krillin got his potential released by Guru on Namek, I believe he crossed into the threshold of "planet destroying" power.
EDIT: To be more specific, after Krillin got his potential released by Guru on Namek, I believe he crossed into the threshold of "planet destroying" power.
Last edited by Lord Beerus on Sat Apr 29, 2017 6:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Spoiler:
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
I'd wager Saiyan Saga Krllin could do it.ekrolo2 wrote:Krillin's been able to blow up a planet since Namek.
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
I doubt it, Vegeta needed 18k to do it and Krillin is over ten times weaker than him. The safest bet is to say that post-Guru Krillin can break a planet.precita wrote:I'd wager Saiyan Saga Krllin could do it.ekrolo2 wrote:Krillin's been able to blow up a planet since Namek.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
To vaporize a planet u need 531 k PL min. To shatter a planet into many pieces you need 18 k min, well that is proly what Vegeta was aiming at doing TBH.
-
- Regular
- Posts: 746
- Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:59 am
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
I agree with this. It seems the most likely case.ekrolo2 wrote:I doubt it, Vegeta needed 18k to do it and Krillin is over ten times weaker than him. The safest bet is to say that post-Guru Krillin can break a planet.precita wrote:I'd wager Saiyan Saga Krllin could do it.ekrolo2 wrote:Krillin's been able to blow up a planet since Namek.
531,000 minimum required to vaporize? Not sure about that, considering that 18,000 alone can shatter the planet. I'd say about 35,000+ can vaporize planets with the size and mass of Earth. Maybe even a little lower than that.buutenks wrote:To vaporize a planet u need 531 k PL min. To shatter a planet into many pieces you need 18 k min, well that is proly what Vegeta was aiming at doing TBH.
Also, who's power level are you referencing anyway? I thought it was first form Frieza but a quick search doesn't indicate that. Could be wrong though.
If it is Frieza, then you're likely using the destruction of Planet Vegeta.
As such, that planet likely required a higher power level as it had more mass as indicated by the fact that it's gravity was 10X that of Earth.
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
Not every planet has the GBE of Earth, but yeah Krillin could probably bust something Earth-sized by the Namek Saga
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
First form Freeza has a PL of 531 k. He says in the manga his exact power level.cheddarsword wrote:I agree with this. It seems the most likely case.ekrolo2 wrote:I doubt it, Vegeta needed 18k to do it and Krillin is over ten times weaker than him. The safest bet is to say that post-Guru Krillin can break a planet.precita wrote:
I'd wager Saiyan Saga Krllin could do it.
531,000 minimum required to vaporize? Not sure about that, considering that 18,000 alone can shatter the planet. I'd say about 35,000+ can vaporize planets with the size and mass of Earth. Maybe even a little lower than that.buutenks wrote:To vaporize a planet u need 531 k PL min. To shatter a planet into many pieces you need 18 k min, well that is proly what Vegeta was aiming at doing TBH.
Also, who's power level are you referencing anyway? I thought it was first form Frieza but a quick search doesn't indicate that. Could be wrong though.
If it is Frieza, then you're likely using the destruction of Planet Vegeta.
As such, that planet likely required a higher power level as it had more mass as indicated by the fact that it's gravity was 10X that of Earth.
And I'm simply going by what is shown. Since that is all there is.
-
- Regular
- Posts: 746
- Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:59 am
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
Fair enough but I still say Frieza overdid it there.buutenks wrote:First form Freeza has a PL of 531 k. He says in the manga his exact power level.cheddarsword wrote:I agree with this. It seems the most likely case.ekrolo2 wrote: I doubt it, Vegeta needed 18k to do it and Krillin is over ten times weaker than him. The safest bet is to say that post-Guru Krillin can break a planet.
531,000 minimum required to vaporize? Not sure about that, considering that 18,000 alone can shatter the planet. I'd say about 35,000+ can vaporize planets with the size and mass of Earth. Maybe even a little lower than that.buutenks wrote:To vaporize a planet u need 531 k PL min. To shatter a planet into many pieces you need 18 k min, well that is proly what Vegeta was aiming at doing TBH.
Also, who's power level are you referencing anyway? I thought it was first form Frieza but a quick search doesn't indicate that. Could be wrong though.
If it is Frieza, then you're likely using the destruction of Planet Vegeta.
As such, that planet likely required a higher power level as it had more mass as indicated by the fact that it's gravity was 10X that of Earth.
And I'm simply going by what is shown. Since that is all there is.
Also, First Form Frieza evaporates Planet Vegeta, but Final Form Frieza is only able to destabilize Namek's core... Even if he was holding back, what the hell?
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
Simple, the blast he fired at Namek was barely in the tens of thousands range.cheddarsword wrote:Fair enough but I still say Frieza overdid it there.buutenks wrote:First form Freeza has a PL of 531 k. He says in the manga his exact power level.cheddarsword wrote:
I agree with this. It seems the most likely case.
531,000 minimum required to vaporize? Not sure about that, considering that 18,000 alone can shatter the planet. I'd say about 35,000+ can vaporize planets with the size and mass of Earth. Maybe even a little lower than that.
Also, who's power level are you referencing anyway? I thought it was first form Frieza but a quick search doesn't indicate that. Could be wrong though.
If it is Frieza, then you're likely using the destruction of Planet Vegeta.
As such, that planet likely required a higher power level as it had more mass as indicated by the fact that it's gravity was 10X that of Earth.
And I'm simply going by what is shown. Since that is all there is.
Also, First Form Frieza evaporates Planet Vegeta, but Final Form Frieza is only able to destabilize Namek's core... Even if he was holding back, what the hell?
-
- Banned
- Posts: 346
- Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:40 pm
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
Yes. Even Yamcha and Choutzu reached planet busting potential. 18,000 is the bench mark set by Vegeta. Krillin at the end of Namek was 75,000. Yamcha and Choutzu far surpassed 18,000 by the time they were revived.
-
- Regular
- Posts: 746
- Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:59 am
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
Okay, where does it say that? If i'm not mistaken, the only time they actually did anything in Z was during the Saiyan saga and all they did was die in explosions!JulianStyles wrote:Yes. Even Yamcha and Choutzu reached planet busting potential. 18,000 is the bench mark set by Vegeta. Krillin at the end of Namek was 75,000. Yamcha and Choutzu far surpassed 18,000 by the time they were revived.
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
What does them dying have anything to do with how powerful they became? They trained under King Kai, Yamcha also likely got at least a little stronger during the Cell era before he capped off.cheddarsword wrote:Okay, where does it say that? If i'm not mistaken, the only time they actually did anything in Z was during the Saiyan saga and all they did was die in explosions!JulianStyles wrote:Yes. Even Yamcha and Choutzu reached planet busting potential. 18,000 is the bench mark set by Vegeta. Krillin at the end of Namek was 75,000. Yamcha and Choutzu far surpassed 18,000 by the time they were revived.
-
- Regular
- Posts: 746
- Joined: Wed Jan 25, 2017 10:59 am
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
It's just that he said they were planet busters after they revived but considering that the Saiyan saga was the last time they were seen actually fighting until Cell became a daddy and that was a loosing battle no less.precita wrote:What does them dying have anything to do with how powerful they became? They trained under King Kai, Yamcha also likely got at least a little stronger during the Cell era before he capped off.cheddarsword wrote:Okay, where does it say that? If i'm not mistaken, the only time they actually did anything in Z was during the Saiyan saga and all they did was die in explosions!JulianStyles wrote:Yes. Even Yamcha and Choutzu reached planet busting potential. 18,000 is the bench mark set by Vegeta. Krillin at the end of Namek was 75,000. Yamcha and Choutzu far surpassed 18,000 by the time they were revived.
I WILL say however, that GOKU didn't even get THAT strong training with King Kai, and he's a saiyan!
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
Ehhh, it's always either no feats or no statements. Too many people can't accept that just one of these is generally sufficient, and if not, you can induce that Krillin is capable of said feat, just like you wrote above.Pantalones wrote:That's ridiculous.According to the story, so far he is not one, yet. There's no onscreen feat of that.
Krillin knows the Kamehameha, a technique that we know can destroy heavenly bodies if enough power is put behind it -- the same move Roshi used to destroy the moon, and what Cell was going to wipe out Earth and the whole solar system with. And we know that his power level has been above Vegeta's initial 18,000 ever since the Ginyu-in-Goku's-body fight (and it's only gone up since then -- 75,000 by the end of the Freeza battle, and then there were three years of training for the Androids after that, and a possibility that he's kept up training since then.)
So... we know that Krillin knows at least one technique that can destroy planets, and we know he's more powerful than the weakest known "planet buster," at least several times more powerful, probably far beyond that. Knowing that, it's just plain dumb to claim Krillin can't destroy a planet because "durrrr no featz."
When people refer to characters being "planet busters," they don't mean "someone who HAS blown up a planet," they mean "someone who COULD."
- Neo-Makaiōshin
- I Live Here
- Posts: 2333
- Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:31 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Contact:
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
There's a reason why scientific theories remain as such and only turn into facts once there's positive experiments that can verify them.
In Dragon Ball context:
Theory: X character (Krillin here) being something buster based on statements/power scalling (Krilling being a planet buster).
Positive Experiment: Feats of said character performing successfully what the theory states (Krilling busting a planet/something similar to one).
In Dragon Ball context:
Theory: X character (Krillin here) being something buster based on statements/power scalling (Krilling being a planet buster).
Positive Experiment: Feats of said character performing successfully what the theory states (Krilling busting a planet/something similar to one).
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.
- Roronoa-pt
- Beyond Newbie
- Posts: 249
- Joined: Thu Sep 10, 2015 2:03 pm
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
This.JulianStyles wrote:Yes. Even Yamcha and Choutzu reached planet busting potential. 18,000 is the bench mark set by Vegeta. Krillin at the end of Namek was 75,000. Yamcha and Choutzu far surpassed 18,000 by the time they were revived.
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
Yamcha has to be at least as strong as the Ginyu Force, around Recoome/Burter/Jeice level by the time he stopped fighting. If they can destroy a planet so could he.
- Neo-Makaiōshin
- I Live Here
- Posts: 2333
- Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2014 8:31 pm
- Location: Argentina
- Contact:
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
That's still not a feat of Krilling busting planet.Roronoa-pt wrote:This.JulianStyles wrote:Yes. Even Yamcha and Choutzu reached planet busting potential. 18,000 is the bench mark set by Vegeta. Krillin at the end of Namek was 75,000. Yamcha and Choutzu far surpassed 18,000 by the time they were revived.
Dragon Ball was always a kid series and fans should stop being in denial.
-
- Banned
- Posts: 346
- Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:40 pm
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
Look it up. V jump magazine its not hard to find.cheddarsword wrote:Okay, where does it say that? If i'm not mistaken, the only time they actually did anything in Z was during the Saiyan saga and all they did was die in explosions!JulianStyles wrote:Yes. Even Yamcha and Choutzu reached planet busting potential. 18,000 is the bench mark set by Vegeta. Krillin at the end of Namek was 75,000. Yamcha and Choutzu far surpassed 18,000 by the time they were revived.
Plot demands how strong a character gets. Gomu trained with Kami for 4 years and only games 200 points in PL. Krillin,Yamcha,Tenshinhan in less than a year with Kami gained 1,500 roughly points in PL. Goku PL after less than a year with king kai was less than 10,000. Yet Piccolo in 6 days was revived with an estimate based on what Nail said anywhere between 40,000-50,000. Also King Kai in the Manga and series said they were all progressing faster than Goku. In six days everyone was over 8cheddarsword wrote:It's just that he said they were planet busters after they revived but considering that the Saiyan saga was the last time they were seen actually fighting until Cell became a daddy and that was a loosing battle no less.precita wrote:What does them dying have anything to do with how powerful they became? They trained under King Kai, Yamcha also likely got at least a little stronger during the Cell era before he capped off.cheddarsword wrote:
Okay, where does it say that? If i'm not mistaken, the only time they actually did anything in Z was during the Saiyan saga and all they did was die in explosions!
I WILL say however, that GOKU didn't even get THAT strong training with King Kai, and he's a saiyan!
9,000!
-
- Banned
- Posts: 346
- Joined: Fri Dec 30, 2016 2:40 pm
Re: Krillin the planet buster?
But is reasonable deduction. We have never seen Piccolo do anything planet busting. Yet itll be dumb to think he doesnt have that power since he passed Freeza by the Android saga. Again the weakest PL we know that it takes to blow up a planet ia 18,000. Krillin is far beyond that.Neo-Makaiōshin wrote:That's still not a feat of Krilling busting planet.Roronoa-pt wrote:This.JulianStyles wrote:Yes. Even Yamcha and Choutzu reached planet busting potential. 18,000 is the bench mark set by Vegeta. Krillin at the end of Namek was 75,000. Yamcha and Choutzu far surpassed 18,000 by the time they were revived.