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The Scenarios Game Thread

Post by nickzambuto » Mon May 15, 2017 11:36 pm

What ifs are a very popular topic in Dragon Ball fandom, but almost every single one of them has the same result; one tiny change results in everybody dying. That's boring.

So for the sake of this thread, instead of answering what if questions from an in-universe perspective, think of them out-of-universe. The story still has to have a happy ending with the villain being defeated. So think of this as a writing exercise. Pretend that you are Akira Toriyama writing Dragon Ball. If one of these elements were changed, how would you write the story to adapt and reach the same conclusion?

I'll go first with an easy one: what if Goku didn't release Raditz's tail, and Piccolo killed Raditz with Goku remaining alive?

Again, think of this from an out of universe perspective. Obviously within the canon, Goku training on Earth would only reach a BP of maybe Nappa level at best, giving him the benefit of the doubt. But as the author of Dragon Ball, you aren't going to write such an anticlimactic ending as "Goku is no match and the saiyans kill everyone and the series ends." Right? How do the heroes succeed with this plot development?

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Upon hearing about the incoming Saiyans who are coming to Earth Goku, and Piccolo both go to God to seek help on how to surpass them. God tells them about Kaio who is an even greater God than himself, taking the two to the Afterlife Goku, and Piccolo both run the Snake Way, and train at Kaio's place. Goku and Piccolo both get the Kaio Ken technique, and using that they both defeat Vegeta, and Nappa who Piccolo both kills.

Once on Namek the two super powered Warriors face off against Freeza, who uses half of his power to kill of Piccolo, upon Piccolo dying Goku ascends to the legendary state of Super Saiyan.

Events proceed the same except Piccolo is more useful.

What if Freeza killed SSJ Goku on Namek?

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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed May 17, 2017 7:55 am

Gog wrote:Upon hearing about the incoming Saiyans who are coming to Earth Goku, and Piccolo both go to God to seek help on how to surpass them. God tells them about Kaio who is an even greater God than himself, taking the two to the Afterlife Goku, and Piccolo both run the Snake Way, and train at Kaio's place. Goku and Piccolo both get the Kaio Ken technique, and using that they both defeat Vegeta, and Nappa who Piccolo both kills.

Once on Namek the two super powered Warriors face off against Freeza, who uses half of his power to kill of Piccolo, upon Piccolo dying Goku ascends to the legendary state of Super Saiyan.

Events proceed the same except Piccolo is more useful.

What if Freeza killed SSJ Goku on Namek?
1) Dear God... This scenario has happened so many times in video games, but the Cosmic Emperor would have been beaten by Super Saiyan Gohan.

2 What if was Frieza had been reincarnated into Cell?

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Steven Bloodriver wrote: 2 What if was Frieza had been reincarnated into Cell?
Everything resumes as normal. ROF is simply ROC now.

What if?

Super Saiyan 3 Goku never existed?

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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed May 17, 2017 7:41 pm

Gog wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: 2 What if was Frieza had been reincarnated into Cell?
Everything resumes as normal. ROF is simply ROC now.

What if?

Super Saiyan 3 Goku never existed?
1) Without the Super Saiyan 3 transformation at his beck and call, Goku would have used his brain to Instant Transmit to make a quick trip to Capsule Corporation, transporting everyone there to the safety of The Lookout, before giving Bulma her Dragon Radar, and then taking himself and others such as Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for several hours of training. Only needing to teach Trunks and Goten to flawlessly fuse into Gotenks and transform the three boys into Super Saiyan 2s to make them suitable enough sparring partners, both Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Piccolo would have improved enough to make a difference in the battle against Majin Buu. As with nearly a day of both training and discipline in their belt, Super Saiyan 2 Goku, Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks, and Piccolo would have left the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, ask Dende to heal them, thank him, and go out to challenge the evil duo of Babidi and Majin Buu with Goku's Instant Transmission. The Warlock would be the first to be killed by the Z Warriors as his Pink Demon pet would follow suit after being worn down by the two Ascended Super Saiyans and Super Namekian.

2) What if Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Golden Frieza were equals during Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F? How would their rematch play out if the two had also been completely serious in just their battle?

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Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Gog wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: 2 What if was Frieza had been reincarnated into Cell?
Everything resumes as normal. ROF is simply ROC now.

What if?

Super Saiyan 3 Goku never existed?
1) Without the Super Saiyan 3 transformation at his beck and call, Goku would have used his brain to Instant Transmit to make a quick trip to Capsule Corporation, transporting everyone there to the safety of The Lookout, before giving Bulma her Dragon Radar, and then taking himself and others such as Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for several hours of training. Only needing to teach Trunks and Goten to flawlessly fuse into Gotenks and transform the three boys into Super Saiyan 2s to make them suitable enough sparring partners, both Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Piccolo would have improved enough to make a difference in the battle against Majin Buu. As with nearly a day of both training and discipline in their belt, Super Saiyan 2 Goku, Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks, and Piccolo would have left the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, ask Dende to heal them, thank him, and go out to challenge the evil duo of Babidi and Majin Buu with Goku's Instant Transmission. The Warlock would be the first to be killed by the Z Warriors as his Pink Demon pet would follow suit after being worn down by the two Ascended Super Saiyans and Super Namekian.

2) What if Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Golden Frieza were equals during Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F? How would their rematch play out if the two had also been completely serious in just their battle?
Goku defeats Freeza who still has his stamina drain, events play out near identically.

What if Piccolo never turned to the side of good?

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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Thu May 18, 2017 7:38 am

Gog wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Gog wrote:
Everything resumes as normal. ROF is simply ROC now.

What if?

Super Saiyan 3 Goku never existed?
1) Without the Super Saiyan 3 transformation at his beck and call, Goku would have used his brain to Instant Transmit to make a quick trip to Capsule Corporation, transporting everyone there to the safety of The Lookout, before giving Bulma her Dragon Radar, and then taking himself and others such as Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for several hours of training. Only needing to teach Trunks and Goten to flawlessly fuse into Gotenks and transform the three boys into Super Saiyan 2s to make them suitable enough sparring partners, both Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Piccolo would have improved enough to make a difference in the battle against Majin Buu. As with nearly a day of both training and discipline in their belt, Super Saiyan 2 Goku, Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks, and Piccolo would have left the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, ask Dende to heal them, thank him, and go out to challenge the evil duo of Babidi and Majin Buu with Goku's Instant Transmission. The Warlock would be the first to be killed by the Z Warriors as his Pink Demon pet would follow suit after being worn down by the two Ascended Super Saiyans and Super Namekian.

2) What if Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Golden Frieza were equals during Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F? How would their rematch play out if the two had also been completely serious in just their battle?
Goku defeats Freeza who still has his stamina drain, events play out near identically.

What if Piccolo never turned to the side of good?
1) The end of Dragon Ball, all of Dragon Ball Z, then Dragon Ball GT, and even in Dragon Ball Super would have King Piccolo as a major antagonist after being revived by his reincarnation, Piccolo Junior, as the two would go into hiding deep within Yunzabit Heights to prepare themselves for Goku and his friends until they would briefly return to the outside world to kidnap young Gohan when the son of Goku was just born. Then, from the start of Dragon Ball Z, King Piccolo, Piccolo Junior, and Son Gohan would be ones to deal with every threat to the Earth to prevent their foes from gaining new allies and getting stronger. With the son of Son Goku under the tutelage of the Demon King and his successor, Gohan would have been raised as the very legendary warrior he should have been, which would give King Piccolo and Piccolo Junior further incentive to improve themselves. Upon the awakening of Beerus, Gohan would have made himself known to the Gods themselves by taking down one of the Gods of Destruction and Attendants in his Super Saiyan 4 form. Leading to the events of Dragon Ball GT and Dragon Ball Super coinciding with one another.

However, with King Piccolo, Piccolo Junior, and Son Gohan being stronger than the very Gods of the Universe at the beginning, Akira Toriyama and Toyotarō would have to watch in shock as their very poorly-executed comeback is replaced by actual storytelling as Dragon Ball Super is thrown to the wayside and destroyed permanently. Then with the threats outside Earth dealt with, especially the snide Goku Black, the three Demon Clansmen turn their attention both to Goku and the Z Fighters...

2) What if Goku had learned and perfected Instant Transmission and the Dragon Fist during his fight with Frieza on Planet Namek? If he had learned to suddenly, use those techniques in his ascension?

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Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Gog wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) Without the Super Saiyan 3 transformation at his beck and call, Goku would have used his brain to Instant Transmit to make a quick trip to Capsule Corporation, transporting everyone there to the safety of The Lookout, before giving Bulma her Dragon Radar, and then taking himself and others such as Piccolo, Trunks, and Goten to the Hyperbolic Time Chamber for several hours of training. Only needing to teach Trunks and Goten to flawlessly fuse into Gotenks and transform the three boys into Super Saiyan 2s to make them suitable enough sparring partners, both Super Saiyan 2 Goku and Piccolo would have improved enough to make a difference in the battle against Majin Buu. As with nearly a day of both training and discipline in their belt, Super Saiyan 2 Goku, Super Saiyan 2 Gotenks, and Piccolo would have left the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, ask Dende to heal them, thank him, and go out to challenge the evil duo of Babidi and Majin Buu with Goku's Instant Transmission. The Warlock would be the first to be killed by the Z Warriors as his Pink Demon pet would follow suit after being worn down by the two Ascended Super Saiyans and Super Namekian.

2) What if Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Golden Frieza were equals during Dragon Ball Z: Resurrection F? How would their rematch play out if the two had also been completely serious in just their battle?
Goku defeats Freeza who still has his stamina drain, events play out near identically.

What if Piccolo never turned to the side of good?
1) The end of Dragon Ball, all of Dragon Ball Z, then Dragon Ball GT, and even in Dragon Ball Super would have King Piccolo as a major antagonist after being revived by his reincarnation, Piccolo Junior, as the two would go into hiding deep within Yunzabit Heights to prepare themselves for Goku and his friends until they would briefly return to the outside world to kidnap young Gohan when the son of Goku was just born. Then, from the start of Dragon Ball Z, King Piccolo, Piccolo Junior, and Son Gohan would be ones to deal with every threat to the Earth to prevent their foes from gaining new allies and getting stronger. With the son of Son Goku under the tutelage of the Demon King and his successor, Gohan would have been raised as the very legendary warrior he should have been, which would give King Piccolo and Piccolo Junior further incentive to improve themselves. Upon the awakening of Beerus, Gohan would have made himself known to the Gods themselves by taking down one of the Gods of Destruction and Attendants in his Super Saiyan 4 form. Leading to the events of Dragon Ball GT and Dragon Ball Super coinciding with one another.

However, with King Piccolo, Piccolo Junior, and Son Gohan being stronger than the very Gods of the Universe at the beginning, Akira Toriyama and Toyotarō would have to watch in shock as their very poorly-executed comeback is replaced by actual storytelling as Dragon Ball Super is thrown to the wayside and destroyed permanently. Then with the threats outside Earth dealt with, especially the snide Goku Black, the three Demon Clansmen turn their attention both to Goku and the Z Fighters...

2) What if Goku had learned and perfected Instant Transmission and the Dragon Fist during his fight with Frieza on Planet Namek? If he had learned to suddenly, use those techniques in his ascension?
The fight with Freeza is far easier with the abilities Goku had gained upon ascending. He takes Freeza off of Namek with him to Earth were he becomes an Anti - Hero due to Goku's good influences, The Androids are effortlessly erased by the Emperor's might, and since he killed them there's no future time line to be found. Cell upon finding out the destruction of his perfection finds Dr Geros lab and adsorbs his present version making him perfect. Deciding to train Cell eventually reaches Freeza's tier of power.

The two battle with Freeza just barely coming out on top. Eventually the Mighty Majin Buu comes along, and gets erased. Beerus comes to Earth and fights Freeza. Goku and Vegeta eventually get Super Saiyan Blue in the quest to stay relevant. The Universal Tournament happens and it progresses relatively the same except Freeza and Vegeta both get taken out by Hit.

Since there's no time machines Goku Black never happens, and the Tournament happens with Freeza a main part of the team from the start.

What if Bulma never found Goku?

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Post by Steven Bloodriver » Thu May 18, 2017 7:28 pm

Gog wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Gog wrote:
Goku defeats Freeza who still has his stamina drain, events play out near identically.

What if Piccolo never turned to the side of good?
1) The end of Dragon Ball, all of Dragon Ball Z, then Dragon Ball GT, and even in Dragon Ball Super would have King Piccolo as a major antagonist after being revived by his reincarnation, Piccolo Junior, as the two would go into hiding deep within Yunzabit Heights to prepare themselves for Goku and his friends until they would briefly return to the outside world to kidnap young Gohan when the son of Goku was just born. Then, from the start of Dragon Ball Z, King Piccolo, Piccolo Junior, and Son Gohan would be ones to deal with every threat to the Earth to prevent their foes from gaining new allies and getting stronger. With the son of Son Goku under the tutelage of the Demon King and his successor, Gohan would have been raised as the very legendary warrior he should have been, which would give King Piccolo and Piccolo Junior further incentive to improve themselves. Upon the awakening of Beerus, Gohan would have made himself known to the Gods themselves by taking down one of the Gods of Destruction and Attendants in his Super Saiyan 4 form. Leading to the events of Dragon Ball GT and Dragon Ball Super coinciding with one another.

However, with King Piccolo, Piccolo Junior, and Son Gohan being stronger than the very Gods of the Universe at the beginning, Akira Toriyama and Toyotarō would have to watch in shock as their very poorly-executed comeback is replaced by actual storytelling as Dragon Ball Super is thrown to the wayside and destroyed permanently. Then with the threats outside Earth dealt with, especially the snide Goku Black, the three Demon Clansmen turn their attention both to Goku and the Z Fighters...

2) What if Goku had learned and perfected Instant Transmission and the Dragon Fist during his fight with Frieza on Planet Namek? If he had learned to suddenly, use those techniques in his ascension?
The fight with Freeza is far easier with the abilities Goku had gained upon ascending. He takes Freeza off of Namek with him to Earth were he becomes an Anti - Hero due to Goku's good influences, The Androids are effortlessly erased by the Emperor's might, and since he killed them there's no future time line to be found. Cell upon finding out the destruction of his perfection finds Dr Geros lab and adsorbs his present version making him perfect. Deciding to train Cell eventually reaches Freeza's tier of power.

The two battle with Freeza just barely coming out on top. Eventually the Mighty Majin Buu comes along, and gets erased. Beerus comes to Earth and fights Freeza. Goku and Vegeta eventually get Super Saiyan Blue in the quest to stay relevant. The Universal Tournament happens and it progresses relatively the same except Freeza and Vegeta both get taken out by Hit.

Since there's no time machines Goku Black never happens, and the Tournament happens with Freeza a main part of the team from the start.

What if Bulma never found Goku?
1) You wanted Frieza to avoid being obliterated by Goku didn't you?

2) Lady Bulma would be kidnapped and possibly tortured by a talking Pterodactyl.

3) What if Future Gohan and Future Trunks had learned Super Saiyan Blue before they challenged the cruel Androids of the Future together for the first time in the Dragon Ball Z: History of Trunks TV Special? But the Trunks Saga still happens later?

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Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Gog wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote: 1) The end of Dragon Ball, all of Dragon Ball Z, then Dragon Ball GT, and even in Dragon Ball Super would have King Piccolo as a major antagonist after being revived by his reincarnation, Piccolo Junior, as the two would go into hiding deep within Yunzabit Heights to prepare themselves for Goku and his friends until they would briefly return to the outside world to kidnap young Gohan when the son of Goku was just born. Then, from the start of Dragon Ball Z, King Piccolo, Piccolo Junior, and Son Gohan would be ones to deal with every threat to the Earth to prevent their foes from gaining new allies and getting stronger. With the son of Son Goku under the tutelage of the Demon King and his successor, Gohan would have been raised as the very legendary warrior he should have been, which would give King Piccolo and Piccolo Junior further incentive to improve themselves. Upon the awakening of Beerus, Gohan would have made himself known to the Gods themselves by taking down one of the Gods of Destruction and Attendants in his Super Saiyan 4 form. Leading to the events of Dragon Ball GT and Dragon Ball Super coinciding with one another.

However, with King Piccolo, Piccolo Junior, and Son Gohan being stronger than the very Gods of the Universe at the beginning, Akira Toriyama and Toyotarō would have to watch in shock as their very poorly-executed comeback is replaced by actual storytelling as Dragon Ball Super is thrown to the wayside and destroyed permanently. Then with the threats outside Earth dealt with, especially the snide Goku Black, the three Demon Clansmen turn their attention both to Goku and the Z Fighters...

2) What if Goku had learned and perfected Instant Transmission and the Dragon Fist during his fight with Frieza on Planet Namek? If he had learned to suddenly, use those techniques in his ascension?
The fight with Freeza is far easier with the abilities Goku had gained upon ascending. He takes Freeza off of Namek with him to Earth were he becomes an Anti - Hero due to Goku's good influences, The Androids are effortlessly erased by the Emperor's might, and since he killed them there's no future time line to be found. Cell upon finding out the destruction of his perfection finds Dr Geros lab and adsorbs his present version making him perfect. Deciding to train Cell eventually reaches Freeza's tier of power.

The two battle with Freeza just barely coming out on top. Eventually the Mighty Majin Buu comes along, and gets erased. Beerus comes to Earth and fights Freeza. Goku and Vegeta eventually get Super Saiyan Blue in the quest to stay relevant. The Universal Tournament happens and it progresses relatively the same except Freeza and Vegeta both get taken out by Hit.

Since there's no time machines Goku Black never happens, and the Tournament happens with Freeza a main part of the team from the start.

What if Bulma never found Goku?
1) You wanted Frieza to avoid being obliterated by Goku didn't you?

2) Lady Bulma would be kidnapped and possibly tortured by a talking Pterodactyl.

3) What if Future Gohan and Future Trunks had learned Super Saiyan Blue before they challenged the cruel Androids of the Future together for the first time in the Dragon Ball Z: History of Trunks TV Special? But the Trunks Saga still happens later?
1) Possibly...

2) It has to be a scenario where they win.

3) With their superior might the Androids are easily destroyed by the two SSBs. Due to their overwhelming power Trunks and Gohan grow lazy in the following years of peace, and Cell enraged with the fact that his one chance of perfection is out of reach in a fit of rage adsorbs Gohan. Trunks heart broken manages to barely escape this Super God Cell.

Bulma goes hard on work creating a time machine for Trunks to use so he can go back in time. Once in the past he effortlessly kills Android 19, and 20. He trains with Goku and Vegeta and goes back to the future. Cell upon finding out about the time machine, and Trunks new found power hides, kills Trunks, and leaves for the future were he adsorbs the Androids 18 and 17.

Now in his Perfect Form the Heroes are finally forced to use the Mafuba to seal him forever.

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Gog wrote:
Steven Bloodriver wrote:
Gog wrote:
The fight with Freeza is far easier with the abilities Goku had gained upon ascending. He takes Freeza off of Namek with him to Earth were he becomes an Anti - Hero due to Goku's good influences, The Androids are effortlessly erased by the Emperor's might, and since he killed them there's no future time line to be found. Cell upon finding out the destruction of his perfection finds Dr Geros lab and adsorbs his present version making him perfect. Deciding to train Cell eventually reaches Freeza's tier of power.

The two battle with Freeza just barely coming out on top. Eventually the Mighty Majin Buu comes along, and gets erased. Beerus comes to Earth and fights Freeza. Goku and Vegeta eventually get Super Saiyan Blue in the quest to stay relevant. The Universal Tournament happens and it progresses relatively the same except Freeza and Vegeta both get taken out by Hit.

Since there's no time machines Goku Black never happens, and the Tournament happens with Freeza a main part of the team from the start.

What if Bulma never found Goku?
1) You wanted Frieza to avoid being obliterated by Goku didn't you?

2) Lady Bulma would be kidnapped and possibly tortured by a talking Pterodactyl.

3) What if Future Gohan and Future Trunks had learned Super Saiyan Blue before they challenged the cruel Androids of the Future together for the first time in the Dragon Ball Z: History of Trunks TV Special? But the Trunks Saga still happens later?
1) Possibly...

2) It has to be a scenario where they win.

3) With their superior might the Androids are easily destroyed by the two SSBs. Due to their overwhelming power Trunks and Gohan grow lazy in the following years of peace, and Cell enraged with the fact that his one chance of perfection is out of reach in a fit of rage adsorbs Gohan. Trunks heart broken manages to barely escape this Super God Cell.

Bulma goes hard on work creating a time machine for Trunks to use so he can go back in time. Once in the past he effortlessly kills Android 19, and 20. He trains with Goku and Vegeta and goes back to the future. Cell upon finding out about the time machine, and Trunks new found power hides, kills Trunks, and leaves for the future were he adsorbs the Androids 18 and 17.

Now in his Perfect Form the Heroes are finally forced to use the Mafuba to seal him forever.
1) Young Goku would accidentally kill the talking Pterodactyl during one of his training sessions and the slightly older Bulma, having seen this for herself, would have escaped her confinement, and then made her way over to thank Goku. The two would have a closer relationship than in canon, as Bulma would have right away told Goku about how he had saved her life from a very fearsome Pterodactyl.

2) The scenario you presented never would have happened, Future Gohan and Future Trunks would have had kept on training to preserve the peace.

3) What if Ascended Super Saiyan was discovered by Goku and Future Trunks just before the events of Dragon Ball Z: Super Android 13! had taken place?

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3) What if Ascended Super Saiyan was discovered by Goku and Future Trunks just before the events of Dragon Ball Z: Super Android 13! had taken place?
Goku and Trunks would have been able to finish off the androids without Vegeta's help. That's really all I can say.

What if Goku was able to fight the androids before getting the heart virus?
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floofychan333 wrote:
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3) What if Ascended Super Saiyan was discovered by Goku and Future Trunks just before the events of Dragon Ball Z: Super Android 13! had taken place?
Goku and Trunks would have been able to finish off the androids without Vegeta's help. That's really all I can say.

What if Goku was able to fight the androids before getting the heart virus?
1) Would Android 13, Android 14, Android 15, and Super Android 13 have stood any chance against Ascended Super Saiyan Goku or Ascended Super Saiyan Future Trunks if together the evil Androids attacked the two newly Ascended Super Saiyans?

2) If he had stayed healthy, Super Saiyan Goku would have been enough to molly-whop Android 19, while Super Saiyan Vegeta would have been the one to have molly-whopped Android 20 before the demented Scientist could escape. Super Saiyan Goku would be challenged by Super Saiyan Vegeta, but the two rivals would postpone their rematch as soon as Future Trunks would arrive to the battle, before the Z Fighters would have found out from Bulma about the location of Dr. Gero's Lab deep in the Northern Mountains and then Instant Transmit there with the help of an eager Goku. But ever a Super Saiyan, Vegeta would have been the one to blast the door open with a Big Bang Cannon and after waking up the Androids one at a time, challenge the Twin Terrors at long last. However, Super Saiyan Vegeta would have needed the help of Super Saiyan Goku and Super Saiyan Future Trunks just to even fight Android 18. Nonetheless, they would have to stop their fighting and then activate Android 17 and Android 16. As Imperfect Cell would have tried to ambush them right after being drawn to their battle. Goku would have discovered Ascended Super Saiyan, Gohan would have become a Super Saiyan, and Future Trunks would have followed suit with ascending as well to Ascended Super Saiyan. With the jealous as hell Super Saiyan Vegeta would have been striving toward being the one to have thrown the finishing blow to Imperfect Cell. Which the very cocky Saiyan Prince would do with his Super Galick Gun.

The Androids Saga would come to an end on a high note, as the Z Warriors and Androids would have bonded together in battle against a common enemy, and would have strived to protect their only home from others like Cell. Also, the massive Super Computer working on the Present Cell underneath them would have malfunctioned from being damaged, and would in turn cause the young Bio-Android to turn into a future ally when he would be needed the most to bring hope.

3) What if Trunks and Goten had the same seriousness as Future Trunks right when they were born?

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What if Freeza killed SSJ Goku on Namek?
Freeza's power doesn't run out with time. Eventually, he outlasts Goku and defeats him after several hours of battle. He doesn't destroy Namek, and leaves the planet. Eventually, goku is brought back and arrives on earth. Years later, androids wreak havoc and no one can stop them, except kamiccolo can match one of them. Cell eventually becomes perfect. Freeza soon arrives on the scene to conquer earth, and helps Z fighters defeat cell because he can't withstand someone being stronger than himself. He leaves earth and promises that he will not invade again, but will kill anyone if they cross paths with him again.
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Steven Bloodriver wrote: 3) What if Trunks and Goten had the same seriousness as Future Trunks right when they were born?
They proceed to suck on the nipples aggressively..
Seriously, what did you expect? :P

They will probably train hard after they passed the age and chewed off their moms fully, goten will have surpassed or came near gohan around the time he shows gohan his SS, they help fight majin buu better but ultimately are still useless in most battled afterwards, they come back to help in TOP lastly..

- What if piccolo could match the Saiyans power just by training, aka in every point in the series piccolo is as strong as Goku
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Post by floofychan333 » Sat May 20, 2017 4:37 pm

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Steven Bloodriver wrote: 3) What if Trunks and Goten had the same seriousness as Future Trunks right when they were born?
They proceed to suck on the nipples aggressively..
Seriously, what did you expect? :P

They will probably train hard after they passed the age and chewed off their moms fully, goten will have surpassed or came near gohan around the time he shows gohan his SS, they help fight majin buu better but ultimately are still useless in most battled afterwards, they come back to help in TOP lastly..

- What if piccolo could match the Saiyans power just by training, aka in every point in the series piccolo is as strong as Goku
That would be brilliant. We would see all the great techniques Toriyama created for Piccolo actually used and he could have stuck around in the Buu arc.
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Post by Gog » Sun May 21, 2017 6:41 pm

What if King Cold transformed, and his second form was as strong as Finial Form Freeza?

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Post by Xeogran » Fri May 26, 2017 3:19 am

Gog wrote:What if King Cold transformed, and his second form was as strong as Finial Form Freeza?
Wouldn't that make no difference to Trunks? I mean, he had no problems with Mecha Frieza who was stronger than before.

What if Fat Buu turns Goku into a chocolate during their fight? Would there even be any way of the good side winning, if that happened? I feel like Goku was reckless risking that happening (though, he didn't knew of this ability too, I think?)

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Post by Gog » Fri May 26, 2017 5:43 am

Xeogran wrote: What if Fat Buu turns Goku into a chocolate during their fight? Would there even be any way of the good side winning, if that happened? I feel like Goku was reckless risking that happening (though, he didn't knew of this ability too, I think?)
Then Goku would have pummeled Buu and Buu would have turned him back. Not much would change besides that.

What if Vegeta had been killed by Kuririn?

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