So SSJ3 can be gained
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So SSJ3 can be gained
some people thought you only can gain it in the after life or in form of a magical fusion to explain Vegeta's failure to ever gain the form.
Now Caulifla shows some talent and Goku can see her gaining it mid fight.
LOL Vegeta... but now you have Blue to compensate your failure.
You can be glad GT is non canon
Now Caulifla shows some talent and Goku can see her gaining it mid fight.
LOL Vegeta... but now you have Blue to compensate your failure.
You can be glad GT is non canon
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Re: So SSJ3 can be gained
I think that it’s always been achievable, for her and Vegeta. But it’s so draining on energy that it’s so much easier to do in otherworld. If she had done it mid fight then I think it would have been detrimental to her as she wouldn’t be used to it yet and Goku would defeat her easily.
She’s not privy to all this so she would’ve just been eager to to do it and get on a more equal footing. Though if Goku thought about the disadvantage it would give her it might give him pause as he prefers a challenge
She’s not privy to all this so she would’ve just been eager to to do it and get on a more equal footing. Though if Goku thought about the disadvantage it would give her it might give him pause as he prefers a challenge
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It's always been gainable, no where in any official product says otherwise.
In terms of Vegeta, he went from Ssj2 to SsjB so somewhere along the way he would've had to be able to use Ssj3 as well. Him and Goku both surpass what's required for Ssj3 so they can probably use it without their energy being drained.
In terms of Vegeta, he went from Ssj2 to SsjB so somewhere along the way he would've had to be able to use Ssj3 as well. Him and Goku both surpass what's required for Ssj3 so they can probably use it without their energy being drained.
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where the hell did you get the idea it wasnt attainable?Kishido wrote:some people thought you only can gain it in the after life or in form of a magical fusion to explain Vegeta's failure to ever gain the form.
Now Caulifla shows some talent and Goku can see her gaining it mid fight.
LOL Vegeta... but now you have Blue to compensate your failure.
You can be glad GT is non canon
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He says that in his first line.mahakaishin1991 wrote:where the hell did you get the idea it wasnt attainable?Kishido wrote:some people thought you only can gain it in the after life or in form of a magical fusion to explain Vegeta's failure to ever gain the form.
Now Caulifla shows some talent and Goku can see her gaining it mid fight.
LOL Vegeta... but now you have Blue to compensate your failure.
You can be glad GT is non canon
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I certainly can be. But it would be best to ask Goku how he did it.
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Re: So SSJ3 can be gained
Makes it all the more odd how Vegeta didn't achieve it..
Probably something else needs to be done which goku can teach and the kids figured out by themselves..
Probably something else needs to be done which goku can teach and the kids figured out by themselves..
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Vegeta probably realized he'd never need SSJ3 if he could use SSJ2 as effectively as Trunks does.
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Super Saiyan 3 I can imagine looks ridiculous in Vegeta’s eyes and I think unless there was a dire situation that called for the transformation (much like his hand being forced with the potara fusion) I don’t think he’d bother.
Of course he doesn’t need it now with super Saiyan blue but still. I think he’d be more intrigued by the “Super Saiyan Anger” that Trunks transformed into..
As for anyone else they could achieve it with training I believe though in the show now I think more blues would be more likely
Of course he doesn’t need it now with super Saiyan blue but still. I think he’d be more intrigued by the “Super Saiyan Anger” that Trunks transformed into..
As for anyone else they could achieve it with training I believe though in the show now I think more blues would be more likely
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Re: So SSJ3 can be gained
And yet, where has there been any sources outside of headcanon to support it. Just because some people think it doesnt mean there's anything official to support it.dbgtFO wrote:He says that in his first line.mahakaishin1991 wrote:where the hell did you get the idea it wasnt attainable?Kishido wrote:some people thought you only can gain it in the after life or in form of a magical fusion to explain Vegeta's failure to ever gain the form.
Now Caulifla shows some talent and Goku can see her gaining it mid fight.
LOL Vegeta... but now you have Blue to compensate your failure.
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Indeed, which is why it's nice to finally put it to rest(okay well not until she actually does achieve it, I suppose, but still).mahakaishin1991 wrote: And yet, where has there been any sources outside of headcanon to support it. Just because some people think it doesnt mean there's anything official to support it.
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Caulifla is so broken; girl needs a nerf in the next patch.
SSJ3 seems doable, but it's such a useless form. Outside of selling merch and fan service I can't think of a logical reason to ever use it again, let alone show someone it can be reached.
Caulifla should ask Champa for training similar to Vegeta and Goku.
SSJ3 seems doable, but it's such a useless form. Outside of selling merch and fan service I can't think of a logical reason to ever use it again, let alone show someone it can be reached.
Caulifla should ask Champa for training similar to Vegeta and Goku.
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Vegeta already proved he doesn't need it and ssj3 is the most useless form ever lol and why go ssj3 when you have a stronger form
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I still don't get why Super's version of the my Bulma scene didn't have Vegeta use ssj3, wasted opportunity. Could of been the first and last time we saw him use it and I would of been satisfied.
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Because of style and for the fans? Characters always use stuff they don't need to use.Dragonballgod19 wrote:Vegeta already proved he doesn't need it and ssj3 is the most useless form ever lol and why go ssj3 when you have a stronger form
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SSJ3 looks ridiculous on anyone outside of Goku, so I hope Caulifa never goes it.
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No doubt in my mind Vegeta could go SSJ3 if he desired. Remember that scene with Trunks where he asks if Vegeta can do it and he just smirks because he has Blue now. That tells me that Vegeta has no need for SSJ3 anymore so he won't be bothered with the transformation.
There's also the whole thing about how Trunks SSJ2 is close to SSJ3 Goku (this might be manga only and I'm getting my wires crossed though). Either way I'm sure Vegeta would be able to but has no use for the form now thanks to it's drawbacks and the level of power of his opponents. SSJ3 while my favourite form has always been flawed unfortunately.
There's also the whole thing about how Trunks SSJ2 is close to SSJ3 Goku (this might be manga only and I'm getting my wires crossed though). Either way I'm sure Vegeta would be able to but has no use for the form now thanks to it's drawbacks and the level of power of his opponents. SSJ3 while my favourite form has always been flawed unfortunately.
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I don't know, it could have been a throw away line saying she might have been talented enough to achieve it without fusion or being dead because she gained SSJ2 so fast. If she gains SSJ3 then Gohan and everyone else should have had it in their explosive rage, no matter how talented she is. Vegeta and Gohan are fighting geniuses both mentally, tatically, and physically. I think giving her SSJ3 would be the wrong way to go about things or even Blue and would make the main cast look worse then they are are being made out to look thanks to Universe 6's Saiyans.
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It's implied that Vegeta's "My Bulma" rage boost was permanent, so his SSJ2 is already stronger than Goku's SSJ3 and Future Trunks' Full Powered SSJ2.Bulma's Foot Masseur wrote:Vegeta probably realized he'd never need SSJ3 if he could use SSJ2 as effectively as Trunks does.
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Mind to say where it was "implied"?Zeru14 wrote:It's implied that Vegeta's "My Bulma" rage boost was permanent