Dr Gero deserves respect.

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Dr Gero deserves respect.

Post by Professor Freeza » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:42 am

Aniraza aside, 17 is the most powerful Artificial creation.

He's basically SSG tier and now Dr Gero's creation is taking on a literal GoD.

Cell can fuck himself, 17 is the ultimate android.

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Post by TheShadowEmperor8055 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:17 am

Professor Freeza wrote:Aniraza aside, 17 is the most powerful Artificial creation.

He's basically SSG tier and now Dr Gero's creation is taking on a literal GoD.

Cell can fuck himself, 17 is the ultimate android.
Channeling Birdman: Put sum respek on 17's name.

I understand androids/cyborgs/artificial humans have infinite energy and whatnot, but seriously, what type of training did 17 go through to become this strong?

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Post by precita » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:21 am

Ironic that Dr. Gero created Androids for the sole purpose of killing Goku, and yet they turn out to be some of the saviors of Earth.

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Post by Professor Freeza » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:24 am

TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:
Professor Freeza wrote:Aniraza aside, 17 is the most powerful Artificial creation.

He's basically SSG tier and now Dr Gero's creation is taking on a literal GoD.

Cell can fuck himself, 17 is the ultimate android.
Channeling Birdman: Put sum respek on 17's name.

I understand androids/cyborgs/artificial humans have infinite energy and whatnot, but seriously, what type of training did 17 go through to become this strong?

I have a hypothesis that Ki itself can be strong/weak.

Think it like X Ray radiation. GoD's and Jiren and Goku and Vegeta has the strongest Ki's. Akin to the HIGHEST energy X Ray photons. Limited. But Super Strong.

Now Krillin Roshi Piccolo etc have less strong Ki. But again Limited.

17 and 18 has Unlimited ki. But its only at one strength. Like a middle power x ray photon stream. Lower energy. But Unlimited stream of it.




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Re: Dr Gero deserves respect.

Post by sunsetshimmer » Sun Jan 28, 2018 6:57 am

"17 is the ultimate android"

It's not like Gero didn't say it in GT.
Super 17 was ultimate machine.
Hell Fighter 17 alone was much stronger than Cell
Cell isn't anything special anymore. He wasn't even anything special in Buu saga.
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Post by Nickolaidas » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:01 am

Frieza, Cooler and Dr Gero are my favorite villains. Nuff said.

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Post by Grimlock » Sun Jan 28, 2018 7:35 am

sunsetshimmer wrote:"17 is the ultimate android"

It's not like Gero didn't say it in GT.
Super 17 was ultimate machine.
Hell Fighter 17 alone was much stronger than Cell
Cell isn't anything special anymore. He wasn't even anything special in Buu saga.
This isn't a fair comparison, you know. Android 17 is what he is now because he got a chance to come back and do something, after Cell saga, Cell doesn't appear anymore (no, Dragon Ball GT doesn't count, as Freeza was also mistreated there, but he also came back and is what he is now because of Movie 15 and Dragon Ball Super).

Can't say Cell isn't/can't be special if he doesn't get a chance to appear again and be treated as fairly as Android 17.
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Post by dbs fanboy » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:24 am

Cell's still the ultimate android, hands down. The only reason 17 is this strong is the fact that he's been training over a decade. Imagine what would happen if Cell did the very same, now remember that this guy has both saiyan's DNA and Freeza's (the one who became really powerful after training four months).
TheShadowEmperor8055 wrote:, what type of training did 17 go through to become this strong?
Use your imagination, there's plenty he could have done. For all we know, he could have travelled to the center of the planet and use his barrier to withstand it's pressure for an entire year without resting.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jan 28, 2018 12:40 pm

dbs fanboy wrote:Use your imagination, there's plenty he could have done. For all we know, he could have travelled to the center of the planet and use his barrier to withstand it's pressure for an entire year without resting.
How would that be useful? He already has infinite stamina.
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Post by Doctor. » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:28 pm

I think FighterZ does more to cement Gero's status as a brilliant scientist than #17's admittedly impressive performance in the ToP.

In FighterZ, Gero:
- has his supercomputer working on Android 21 and implanted her with Boo DNA somehow
- has multiple laboratories around the world
- developed a machine capable of suppressing the Ki of any fighter on Earth; the stronger you are, the more you feel its effect
- developed a linking mechanism capable of transferring a soul onto a foreign body, presumably to control #17 and #18
- created artificial souls

Very impressive stuff.

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Post by PerhapsTheOtherOne » Sun Jan 28, 2018 1:45 pm

Yeah, if Gero wasn't so preoccupied with MURDER REVENGEANCE! and whatnot, he probably could've easily overtaken Capsule Corporation with his technology.

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Post by DragonBallFoodie » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:50 pm

Looking at what he has achieved with the Androids - creating beings of infinite power that could rival a Super Saiyan - he certainly does.

The curious thing IMO is, he seems to be an evil version of Dr Slump, another android maker. Toriyama took an early concept and twisted it to create a formidable mad scientist/villain who created two unstoppable machines.
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Post by dbs fanboy » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:01 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
dbs fanboy wrote:Use your imagination, there's plenty he could have done. For all we know, he could have travelled to the center of the planet and use his barrier to withstand it's pressure for an entire year without resting.
How would that be useful? He already has infinite stamina.
To strenghten his barrier, i dunno, this was a really silly example to be honest :lol:
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Post by kn83 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:08 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote:"17 is the ultimate android"

It's not like Gero didn't say it in GT.
Super 17 was ultimate machine.
Hell Fighter 17 alone was much stronger than Cell
Cell isn't anything special anymore. He wasn't even anything special in Buu saga.
Both 17 and 21 are far beyond Cell at this point.

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:37 pm

kn83 wrote:
sunsetshimmer wrote:"17 is the ultimate android"

It's not like Gero didn't say it in GT.
Super 17 was ultimate machine.
Hell Fighter 17 alone was much stronger than Cell
Cell isn't anything special anymore. He wasn't even anything special in Buu saga.
Both 17 and 21 are far beyond Cell at this point.
Although Cell could have the potential to unlock SSJB and Golden Freeza forms.
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Post by theherodjl » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:42 pm

Polyphase Avatron wrote:Although Cell could have the potential to unlock SSJB and Golden Freeza forms.
Blue + Gold, so....Emerald Cell? He'd look the same as his Perfect form but he'd look irradiated.
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Post by Neo-Makaiōshin » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:03 am

Doctor. wrote:I think FighterZ does more to cement Gero's status as a brilliant scientist than #17's admittedly impressive performance in the ToP.

In FighterZ, Gero:
- has his supercomputer working on Android 21 and implanted her with Boo DNA somehow
- has multiple laboratories around the world
- developed a machine capable of suppressing the Ki of any fighter on Earth; the stronger you are, the more you feel its effect
- developed a linking mechanism capable of transferring a soul onto a foreign body, presumably to control #17 and #18
- created artificial souls

Very impressive stuff.
I think his most impressive invention (that's completely ignored by the characters and fans) was creating a source of that generates INFINITE energy! In scientific terms this is mindblowing and paradigm breaking.
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Post by TheMikado » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:28 am

Professor Freeza wrote:Aniraza aside, 17 is the most powerful Artificial creation.

He's basically SSG tier and now Dr Gero's creation is taking on a literal GoD.

Cell can fuck himself, 17 is the ultimate android.
So GT redeemed? :lol:

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Post by Professor Freeza » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:43 am

TheMikado wrote:
Professor Freeza wrote:Aniraza aside, 17 is the most powerful Artificial creation.

He's basically SSG tier and now Dr Gero's creation is taking on a literal GoD.

Cell can fuck himself, 17 is the ultimate android.
So GT redeemed? :lol:
not remotely what i meant

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Post by Grimlock » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:52 am

And what exactly did you mean?
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