Does Jiren have god ki?
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Does Jiren have god ki?
IIRC in the manga it was stated that Toppo had god ki even before becoming a Hakaishin, but what about Jiren?
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Re: Does Jiren have god ki?
I guess so, I can't recall a moment where a normal Ki user like Roshi, Krillin, or Tenshinhan stated that they could sense Jiren's Ki so I guess he's got some Godly power.
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Re: Does Jiren have god ki?
Well in Toppo's case its understandable, he's been training to become a GoD, Even if he dose not have his transformation in the manga it makes sense for him to have access to god ki.
Jiren on the other hand has never been stated to have trained with Marcarita or possess any kind of god power. Also he's not the first mortal to have god level power without god ki. Frieza, #17, Kefla, Koichiarator, Aniraza, Hit, Bergamo and a few others have displayed power that rivels, equals or surpasses that possessed by those who have god ki. Jiren is just the most extreme example.
God Ki may grant a a big power boost but like transformation its not a thing someone has to have to be that strong.
Jiren on the other hand has never been stated to have trained with Marcarita or possess any kind of god power. Also he's not the first mortal to have god level power without god ki. Frieza, #17, Kefla, Koichiarator, Aniraza, Hit, Bergamo and a few others have displayed power that rivels, equals or surpasses that possessed by those who have god ki. Jiren is just the most extreme example.
God Ki may grant a a big power boost but like transformation its not a thing someone has to have to be that strong.
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Re: Does Jiren have god ki?
Naw. He has regular ki. Perfect Organism
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Re: Does Jiren have god ki?
Its hard to tell cause apparently now anyone can read god ki considering piccolo could tell how strong UI omen goku and compare him to LSSJ2 Kefla. If I had to guess I would say yes since one of the kai's did say Jirens level of power can't be achieved through normal training and the fact that Belmod knows so much about him makes me think Yes
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Re: Does Jiren have god ki?
I don't think he has god ki. There is however, a distinction between having it and also sensing it. From a logical perspective it would make sense that not anyone can access god ki, no matter how hard you train, it is either a trait from a transformation or from a title (god of destruction e.g.). Coincidentally, Goku and Vegeta just needed the SSJG transformation to become stronger, and as the name implies it comes with god ki and the ability to sense it as well. There have been numerous examples of individuals who have incredible power without god ki, Freeza, Trunks with his rage boost, and even Gohan who somehow has gotten a lot stronger without the SSJG transformation. Jiren is just incredibly strong, you don't need god ki to become this strong, it is just a different type of ki. Gods of destruction are just that much stronger because they train under their angel. I personally think that this is a shitty progression, the show started out showing that god ki is this amazing thing with amazing potential. But much like the Freeza arc from DBZ, it introduced a massive powercreep, so in order to not make everyone irrelevant again, they had to nerf it and imply that god ki is not a crutch to reach certain heights, merely a shortcut if you could say.
Re: Does Jiren have god ki?
I'd probably say no, he does not have God Ki. We don't even know how Jiren was able to gain that much power, even surpassing his own GoD. But, the anime does show his aura to be similar to SSB and UI. So, I'm not sure. There's hardly any evidence at all for him having Godly Ki... I wouldn't be surprised if he did or didn't since he is so OP.
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Re: Does Jiren have god ki?
I'm pretty sure Jiren does not have god ki. Caulifla asks Kale if she "feels that" I assumed that was his energy, and I don't think Caulifla can sense God ki.
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