Did Jiren truly earn his strength on his own?

[Berserker1921]

I am curious, when the show said he became this powerful on his own. Does that mean he acquired God ki on his own? Does that mean he didn't train with the gods or angels? Or did they just mean he didn't have any emotional support?

[Ki Breaker]

I am curious, when the show said he became this powerful on his own. Does that mean he acquired God ki on his own? Does that mean he didn't train with the gods or angels? Or did they just mean he didn't have any emotional support?

Jiren has normal Ki, Krillin sensed his energy multiple times..
It seems like he never trained with the angels at least as of now, the manga might change some stuff up..
Being alone emotionally while being deep thing, I am not quite sure this is what they meant, my translation suggests he literally achieved this power on his own..

[Lionel]

I think unless it's clarified that Jiren was this mutant of mutants whereby his potential is considered to be the greatest of any ningen in existence, his escalation to top of the charts where not even Hakaishin can defeat him represents this unexplained quandary. Training with Belmod and Toppo would explain a lot about his condition, but surpassing them when he has no god ki of his own doesn't make sense. To be fair, less and less appears to do so as we progress further along in this modernist revival of the DB franchise.

[ToshioWrites]

Jiren doesn’t appear to have God Ki of any sort so yes it appears he got this far without divine training or god rituals . It’s not far fetched . Revival F proved God Ki is nothing special then we’ve seen beings like Hit , Rafe Trunks , Kefla , Jiren who without God Ki can reach powers beyond god forms

[PFM18]

He could still acquire strength from angels without achieving God Ki himself. And although it appears that he has nomral ki I don't believe that is 100% certain. Characters seem to be able to sense his ki but in a way everrybody can sense God ki it just isn't sensed as the same way as other ki they just feel the "pressure" that God Ki gives off so they could be referring to the extent to that "pressure"

[ToshioWrites]

He could still acquire strength from angels without achieving God Ki himself. And although it appears that he has nomral ki I don't believe that is 100% certain. Characters seem to be able to sense his ki but in a way everrybody can sense God ki it just isn't sensed as the same way as other ki they just feel the "pressure" that God Ki gives off so they could be referring to the extent to that "pressure"

I don’t think he trained with the angel. In episode 109 she wasn’t sure Jiren could beat goku that easily and belmod had to tell her about how Jiren never loses and such. I think he’s what Frieza or Gohan could be if they spent all their time training

[Sonofman]

Jiren doesn't have God ki. That's a whole different thing. Jiren's Ki is probably normal Ki, since even the earthlings can sense his presence. Just because you have God Ki doesn't mean you are almighty though. I think Jiren did earn his strength by himself, but he must have done some secret training somewhere, because Goku did many secret trainings and STILL, he wasn't able to beat Beerus; his own GoD. While, Jiren can mop the floor of Belmod, but chooses not to.

[ToshioWrites]

Jiren doesn't have God ki. That's a whole different thing. Jiren's Ki is probably normal Ki, since even the earthlings can sense his presence. Just because you have God Ki doesn't mean you are almighty though. I think Jiren did earn his strength by himself, but he must have done some secret training somewhere, because Goku did many secret trainings and STILL, he wasn't able to beat Beerus; his own GoD. While, Jiren can mop the floor of Belmod, but chooses not to.

Goku is a genius in terms of combat and learning techniques but his growth rate in power from training is far lesser than people like Freeza, Gohan, etc who are born with immense natural talent. My headcanon based on nothing is that jiren was born with high power unlike goku and training by himself allowed him to reach heights he has whereas if goku didn't meet Whis and Beerus, he never could have reached his current level within a normal lifespan of a saiyan

[blain218]

God ki as far far as I know was never stated to have anything to do with raw strength in the first place. All of the Kais naturally have God ki yet the majority of them are weaker than a Cell jr.