DB▪Magnum-Expert wrote:
Yeah, agreed. Basically everything except one or two things in all the DBS Anime proves that Base Goku > SsjG BoG Goku. There's still, apparently, many people who disagree, for some...... reason
The confusion started with the fact that the anime and BoG movie both stated that Goku absorbed the power of SSG into his base. He fought Beerus in space using SSJ and Beerus said that he didn't seem to lose any power. We all thought hence his base was as strong as SSG. In filler episodes of the anime, base Goku was able to fight Beerus in a Monaka costume when previously SSJ3 Goku couldn't even make Beerus move. Goku didn't even use SSG in the "anime" vs Hit. So we assumed that we would never see SSG again since Goku absorbed it into his base seemingly.
Things were pretty consistent
UNTIL the ToP where Goku suddenly used SSG against Dyspo out of nowhere with no explanation of why he didn't use the form before. Then all consistency went out of the window. The manga never had the scene where SSJ Goku fought Beerus nor any statements implying he absorbed the power of SSG. Goku also used SSG vs Hit, stating it conserves stamina rather than going full SSB from the start. Vegeta even used the strategy of switching back and forth between SSG and SSB against Black so that he could use the full power of SSB in short bursts without losing power.
So essentially, the anime did not use SSG for two arcs - the U6 tournament and the Zamasu arc, but randomly showed it against Dyspo at the ToP. Then, it was pretty prevalent that SSG is a form of its own with a considerable boost. In the anime, Goku hit Jiren in his base which did nothing and Jiren stood still. When hitting Jiren using SSG, Jiren started to block punches. Hence, there is a clear distinction between SSG and base now even in the anime.
The point at which the anime and manga diverged was the U6 tournament. I do think that Toei decided to add SSG back in the anime later after Toyotaro's manga and Toriyama's scripts for the ToP that must have included SSG. My conclusion is that the anime and BoG were retconned. The idea of Goku's base being as strong as SSG no longer holds true. The manga has been consistent to this fact while the anime has rectified itself. Based on this consistency, I'd rather use the manga's logic to scale. Additionally, we learned that SSG > 10% SSB in the manga, so we already know that from this statement, SSB = 10x SSG not 50x.
As for how strong Goku is post-ToP compared to pre-ToP, I think his base strength didn't change much. Zenkai boosts have already reached a saturation point. We can assume that the ToP acted like a 48 minute training session. What Goku accomplished in the ToP is obviously UI which he cannot consciously access. So minus UI, Goku's base strength is not that different from pre-ToP.