I already explained thoroughly why it is perfectly rational to compare characters to SSJ3 Vegetto.Hugo Boss wrote:There is nothing in my post that suggest that I’m ridiculing anyone. A gross exaggeration is just what it is, there is nothing to infer from that. Comparing a character that actually exists to another that is only fan-idealized isn’t aiming for accuracy at all. Also, there is nothing established about SS being stronger than SSG. If anything this idea doesn’t hold any water in the Survival Arc.PFM18 wrote:You say this isn't about pointing fingers and then you go on to ridicule people that have a different opinion than you and call their deductions "gross exaggerations”Hugo Boss wrote: This is not about pointing fingers. To be more clear, I have saw on this thread and in other similar ones some gross exaggerations like “Base Goku is stronger than a hypothetical super strong character that never existed in Dragon Ball story”. That strikes me as a bad sign of extrapolation that isn’t expected from a Kanzenshuu member.
The entirety of episodes 13 and 14 make it clear that SSJ>SSG. Theres quite the laundry list of tjings that illustrate this. This increase of Goku's SSJ form to this dramatically higher level allows him to:
1. Defeat Final Form Freeza in Base who is atleast a hundred times stronger than the First Form Freeza who dominated everybody else.
2. Compete with Beerus in the Monaka Suit in his base form.
3. Shown to be far above SSJ3 Gotenks.
4. Play around and fighting evenly with a powered up Majin Buu.
And this is all after Base Golu was established to be weaker than Namek full power Freeza. There is no way that a boost capable of achieving the aforementioned feats would be possible if Goku didnt Infuse the SSG power within him.