I would include movie 8 solely for the fact that Paragus had his movie 8 appearance, and he didn’t have that appearance until after he put the mind control device on Broly. That’s the only thing we can conclude. It’s impossible to know about movie 10, so I guess the argument could be made that Janenba is stronger than M8 Broly, but M10 Zenkai Broly is more powerful than Janenba and Hatchiyack.Rakurai wrote: Does making cameos necessarily mean that it must've happened? I don't believe it. Cooler was shown being released from Hell in GT, so do we say that M5-6 must have occurred (I also take something else I said back; M5-6 were back-to-back in terms of continuity like M8, 10, & 11)? M6 cannot fit anywhere in the DBZ anime's continuity, of which GT is a sequel to. So M5 might've occurred but not M6, however M6 itself is a sequel to M5 and these timelines must be connected. This is what I mean by the film timelines being muddled and ambiguous in general.
Koyama's perception of Broly may have been shaped by modern depiction of Broly today. Marketing and all that. We can either take to the films, which we can scale Janemba > Broly, or we can take to Koyama, in which case Broly > Janemba according to his thoughts most likely. I expect most fans to follow the former.
Agree to disagree. There's really no right or wrong in this case, but I myself choose to side with the content creator's words more than anything else unless he/she contradict that statement in a later work (as much as I hate Toriyama doing it).
As you’ve probably gathered I don’t follow that, as it doesn’t make sense for me, but if somebody wants to link everything posed with Koyamas current statements this could work.
Also movie 5 fitting in Z would mean that for some reason Goku forgot how to turn SSJ, even though we know he mastered it when he returns to earth, also Gohan has that bowl cut. I feel that last point totally drives it home.
Most of the movies have some issues when trying to make them fit into the anime timeline. GT just uses whatever it wants to, I guess. Maybe in GT it’s a Cooler that actually fits in the anime timeline, and Goku wipes him out super easily as he’s mastered how to transform.
I totally see the point you’re making though, but i’ll just stick to the movies.