Uub and the 10 year time skip

[Kaiza_Toshiyuki]

If the end of Z is after the 10 years super takes place in, then why is goku going to train uub. Isn't he a bit too weak to help with any major threats? We don´t need buu level characters for god level threats, especially with vegeta and gohan around to handle them. Also, considering how much Ssj blue is shoehorned into every fight goku is in even if he doesn't need it, then we all know he would have gone blue against uub realistically.

[KBABZ]

If the end of Z is after the 10 years super takes place in, then why is goku going to train uub. Isn't he a bit too weak to help with any major threats? We don´t need buu level characters for god level threats, especially with vegeta and gohan around to handle them. Also, considering how much Ssj blue is shoehorned into every fight goku is in even if he doesn't need it, then we all know he would have gone blue against uub realistically.

I guess the way to look at it is this; Uub's power scales upwards relative to Goku's as it gets higher and higher throughout Super (it's reasonable to expect Goku already had a higher battle power at the end of Z than at the conclusion of the Buu arc). The stronger Goku gets, the stronger Uub is to match the results and actions we see at the end of Z.

It's also important to remember that any form of Super Saiyan only multiplies the base battle power, meaning it's still impressive that Uub was able to stand up to Goku even in his base form.

[theherodjl]

Oob's level is actually pretty high considering he is an Earthling boy of only 10 years of age, and he likely received the most rudimentary of martial arts training instead of the intense training methods & places that the Z Senshi subject themselves to. Imagine if they threw Oob in the ROSAT for a year while also learning how to perfectly control his Ki? After Oob got out & challenged Goku, We'd probably see a repeat of SSJ3 Goku & Pure Boo's battle with Goku needing to use SSJG to conclusively defeat Oob.

[Green_Goblin]

Maybe they want us to believe (following Frieza's E-X-T-R-E-M-E-L-Y H-U-G-E Power Up in Resurrection 'F') that Uub can tap into Kid Buu's strength, and if a pipsqueak like Frieza managed to go all the way from "somewhat rusty" in comparison to his 530,000 power level into a Super Buu level threat in his first form after 4 months of training, just think how CRAZY STRONG Uub/Kid Buu would become if he's trained properly and for greater lengths of time.

[Alruneia]

Goku vs Uub happens after all of (currently known) Super, so the stronger Goku's base form becomes, the stronger Uub becomes. It's a kind of "forwards retcon".
And that's without any proper training. What Green_Goblin mentions, the comparison between Frieza and Uub, is also a factor. They're both ridiculously strong without training, so if they do train, their strength will skyrocket. Uub inherits Kid Buu's strength, so it's not too hard to believe that he can unlock his potential and become extremely powerful if he trains under Goku. (Frieza is an ultra-prodigy, but in DB, who isn't these days?)

[Kaiza_Toshiyuki]

Maybe they want us to believe (following Frieza's E-X-T-R-E-M-E-L-Y H-U-G-E Power Up in Resurrection 'F') that Uub can tap into Kid Buu's strength, and if a pipsqueak like Frieza managed to go all the way from "somewhat rusty" in comparison to his 530,000 power level into a Super Buu level threat in his first form after 4 months of training, just think how CRAZY STRONG Uub/Kid Buu would become if he's trained properly and for greater lengths of time.

....That makes a lot of sense....

[Green_Goblin]

Maybe they want us to believe (following Frieza's E-X-T-R-E-M-E-L-Y H-U-G-E Power Up in Resurrection 'F') that Uub can tap into Kid Buu's strength, and if a pipsqueak like Frieza managed to go all the way from "somewhat rusty" in comparison to his 530,000 power level into a Super Buu level threat in his first form after 4 months of training, just think how CRAZY STRONG Uub/Kid Buu would become if he's trained properly and for greater lengths of time.

....That makes a lot of sense....

Then why the dramatic tone?

[Kaiza_Toshiyuki]

Maybe they want us to believe (following Frieza's E-X-T-R-E-M-E-L-Y H-U-G-E Power Up in Resurrection 'F') that Uub can tap into Kid Buu's strength, and if a pipsqueak like Frieza managed to go all the way from "somewhat rusty" in comparison to his 530,000 power level into a Super Buu level threat in his first form after 4 months of training, just think how CRAZY STRONG Uub/Kid Buu would become if he's trained properly and for greater lengths of time.

....That makes a lot of sense....

Then why the dramatic tone?

Just the realization of how super has been covering their bases since RoF

[PFM18]

Maybe they want us to believe (following Frieza's E-X-T-R-E-M-E-L-Y H-U-G-E Power Up in Resurrection 'F') that Uub can tap into Kid Buu's strength, and if a pipsqueak like Frieza managed to go all the way from "somewhat rusty" in comparison to his 530,000 power level into a Super Buu level threat in his first form after 4 months of training, just think how CRAZY STRONG Uub/Kid Buu would become if he's trained properly and for greater lengths of time.

....That makes a lot of sense....

it totally does. Uub is gonna be a monster when he shows up

[OhHiRenan]

Oob is an Earthling with the potential of Pure Boo. Even in light of Super, Oob is still the character with the biggest head start in the series. He’s a child with Boo’s latent power. Goku training him would naturally bring that power to light and then some.

I genuinely don’t understand how Super makes Oob’s headstart any less impressive.

[RecolorSaiyan]

When Freeza was revived by Sorbet, he was at best namek saga ssj goku level. 4 months of training (where he used tagoma as a punching bag) later, he was stronger than SSB Goku.

Uub has Kid Boo's latent power plus he and automatically be scaled up to be able to somewhat entertain DBS EoZ era Base Goku. Now imagine goku training that kid. He could potentially become GoD level in a few months

[Ssjcell]

Goku vs Uub happens after all of (currently known) Super, so the stronger Goku's base form becomes, the stronger Uub becomes. It's a kind of "forwards retcon".
And that's without any proper training. What Green_Goblin mentions, the comparison between Frieza and Uub, is also a factor. They're both ridiculously strong without training, so if they do train, their strength will skyrocket. Uub inherits Kid Buu's strength, so it's not too hard to believe that he can unlock his potential and become extremely powerful if he trains under Goku. (Frieza is an ultra-prodigy, but in DB, who isn't these days?)

I suscribe to the forward retcon theory uub just becomes strong enough to make goku's arm go numb no matter how strong that is

[Apslup]

Mostly because Gohan and Goten (he Goku tried to make his successors) don't want to fight and Goku knew him and Vegeta were getting on in years and they didn't know how much further they could push their limits, so they needed Obb to become the leader of the new generation of Z Fighters.

[KBABZ]

Mostly because Gohan and Goten (he Goku tried to make his successors) don't want to fight and Goku knew him and Vegeta were getting on in years and they didn't know how much further they could push their limits, so they needed Obb to become the leader of the new generation of Z Fighters.

I don't get that at all. Aside from guiding the next generation, Goku wanted a really great opponent for himself when he took Uub under his wing. Vegeta didn't even know about his plan until the day before the tournament!

[Apslup]

Mostly because Gohan and Goten (he Goku tried to make his successors) don't want to fight and Goku knew him and Vegeta were getting on in years and they didn't know how much further they could push their limits, so they needed Obb to become the leader of the new generation of Z Fighters.

I don't get that at all. Aside from guiding the next generation, Goku wanted a really great opponent for himself when he took Uub under his wing. Vegeta didn't even know about his plan until the day before the tournament!

Yeah I forgot to mention that lol

[Lionel]

Uub doesn't have the luxury of devising a new transformation to amplify his power with. Freeza was able to do that. His final form did receive a hefty boost up the tier listings, but it's ultimately his golden form that put him over the line and made him comparable to SSJB. Uub's foundation is considerably more potent, but I'm still a bit curious as to how he'll become an adequate challenge for a Goku who is now stronger than Hakaishin. If you wanted to portray it semi-organically then there's always god ki and Kaioken. But when does any mortal outside of Goku and Vegeta in Universe 7 make use of those tools to better themselves with?

[RecolorSaiyan]

Uub doesn't have the luxury of devising a new transformation to amplify his power with. Freeza was able to do that. His final form did receive a hefty boost up the tier listings, but it's ultimately his golden form that put him over the line and made him comparable to SSJB. Uub's foundation is considerably more potent, but I'm still a bit curious as to how he'll become an adequate challenge for a Goku who is now stronger than Hakaishin. If you wanted to portray it semi-organically then there's always god ki and Kaioken. But when does any mortal outside of Goku and Vegeta in Universe 7 make use of those tools to better themselves with?

Fighters like Hit and Jiren don't use any transformations but are able to tangle with Goku, the latter more so than the former so its already been shown to be possible