p-hyvo wrote:This comes from the source which states that Vegito's Super Saiyan multiplier is equal to 2.5 times of his base form. If Vegito equals 500 "Gokus" (according to Kanzenshuu, which implies that Vegito might be superior in base than SSJ4 Goku, with a multiplier of 500) and has a SSJ multiplier of 2.5, with Goku being a 1 and having a SSJ multiplier of 50, then Gogeta who equals 144 "Gokus", has a SSJ multiplier of 7.2.
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that thing is totall bs anyway. vegetto ssj >= ssj4, not base, and moreover theres no way that :
1) base vegetto is only x500 Goku, because base vegetto> buutenks, and going by logic and by the anime/manga itself, buutenks >>>>>500x goku
2) ssj4 is x500 base in z, nor in gt or anywhere else. that is just a bs fan multiplier, did ignorining completely every official source that speaks about ssj4's strength
moreover, that changing multiplier thing is bs as well and makes no sense considering that vegettto >>> gogeta going by the manga itself
i hope i was clear on that
First and foremost, I love it when people want to debate with me! Lol
Secondly, let me provide some info as to why Vegito can be 500 times stronger than Base Goku.
According to myself and many others, Gotenks in the Buu Saga was roughly 8× times stronger than Goku in Base. If I use my theory on the different SSJ multiplier for fused beings, Gotenks' form has an almost unchanging number of 49.6× Base. Moving on, Gotenks' power level is somewhere near 25,000,000 and as such, Super Buu has a power level of almost 2.5 Billion. When he absorbed Gotenks, Piccolo and Gohan, his power skyrocketed. Piccolo wasn't very powerful by the Buu Saga (at least enough to be portrayed equal with the Saiyans) so Gohan and Gotenks gave him the true power.
By the time Vegito fought with Buu, Gotenks was separated within his body, subsequently having reduced his power as the boys' sum of their power was a fragment of Gotenks'. Gohan in his Ultimate Form was at least 2× Super Buu, meaning 2× SSJ3 Goku. Vegito was toying with Buuhan (whose power was the sum of Gohan and Super Buu, meaning 3× SSJ3 Goku) though, despite being equal to 500 "Gokus" (less than Buuhan). However, Vegito used deadly techniques and he was able to go toe-to-toe with Buuhan, but the latter proved to be a challenging opponent and Vegito went SSJ.
Now, multiplying 2.5 with 500, gives us the number of 1,250 which is superior to Buuhan's power. Now Vegito can't only toy with Buuhan, but erase him from existence, as his power is even greater. We have seen individuals with roughly the same power fighting and one of them had the upper hand at all times. This is due to many things that DB fans don't really consider, which, however, can change the tide of a battle drastically. This includes, dexterity, physical prowness, martial arts' mastery, special techniques and moves, even strategic way of thinking. Why was SSJ2 Goku able to withstand attacks from SSJ2 Caulifla (who almost seemed to be equal to Goku) and LSSJ2 Kale (who previously used a less powerful "berserk" form to bring down a supressed SSJB Goku)? Because, he was experienced and not a brawler, which was even stated by Whis.
People with lower power levels may be able to defeat beings with greater power, who lack control (and Buuhan certainly lacked that). Basically, Hit (a being whose maximum power rivals a semi-fully-powered SSJG Goku) was able to push Goku to use a SSJB Kaio Ken ×10!!!! Isn't that a good example?
Well, I made myself clear too, so you are welcome to send me your reply!
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