Which would be more impressive to have access to? Super Saiyan: Kaioken or Super Saiyan 2?

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Which would be more impressive to have access to? Super Saiyan: Kaioken or Super Saiyan 2?

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:44 pm

Between these 2 methods of surpassing the basic Super Saiyan transformation, which 1 do you believe would have been much more of an immediate attention-grabber at first glance?

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Re: Which would be more impressive to have access to? Super Saiyan: Kaioken or Super Saiyan 2?

Post by CTAkuma » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:39 pm

Super Kaioken because it looks cooler, practically speaking SS2 is the better choice though

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Re: Which would be more impressive to have access to? Super Saiyan: Kaioken or Super Saiyan 2?

Post by mcdjbeatz » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:39 am

Visually Super Kaioken is far more impressive as the visual difference between Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 is so minuscule that it has caused numerous debates regarding their usage by characters. However, from a practicality standpoint and/or the perspective of someone who understands both forms Super Saiyan 2 is more impressive due to not placing such a detrimental strain on the body when using it like the Super Kaioken and because it is harder to gain access to.

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Re: Which would be more impressive to have access to? Super Saiyan: Kaioken or Super Saiyan 2?

Post by Lionel » Tue Oct 23, 2018 5:07 am

Agreed with the others. One could argue that the Super Kaioken is a more complicated investment since the user is having to strike a balance between the transformation he's currently attempting to maintain and a technique that requires precise ki control, lest their body become overwhelmed and start breaking apart as a result. Truth be told, I would have been interested to see whether or not Goku could semi-normalise the combinational state for longer than just a single strike.

Super Saiyan 2 is the more practical investment but fundamentally it's just another transformation, right? Or was it the same one just with a higher power increase (according to Toriyama)?

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Re: Which would be more impressive to have access to? Super Saiyan: Kaioken or Super Saiyan 2?

Post by ankokudaishogun » Tue Oct 23, 2018 7:12 am

I agree with everybody else.

Super Kaiohken is much more impressive, especially because it leaves space to higher multipliers(this is an error made by Super, starting with Kaiohken Blue x10)
It doesn't help that SS2 is almost identical in look to SS1, except for Kid Gohan.
So, from a purery show-off POV, Kaiohken is much better.


From a PRACTICAL PoV, SS2 is much better with his extremely lower body stress.
? Or was it the same one just with a higher power increase (according to Toriyama)?
All Super Saiyan transformations, Grades and Numbers, are just "tweaks" on the basic transformation.

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Re: Which would be more impressive to have access to? Super Saiyan: Kaioken or Super Saiyan 2?

Post by Hulk10 » Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:37 pm

I agree with the others, visually Super Saiyan Kaioken is more impressive, but Super Saiyan 2 is more practical and thus more useful.
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