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Future Zamasu choosing to become Vegeta Black instead of gaining Immortality...

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Tue Oct 23, 2018 3:25 pm

Through the use of the Future Super Dragon Balls, how would this big change have been dealt with in your personal opinion in the Future Trunks Saga of the Dragon Ball Super Manga if it had been implemented by the Successor of Akira Toriyama to have made a rather unique take in differentiating from the DBS Anime?

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Re: Future Zamasu choosing to become Vegeta Black instead of gaining Immortality...

Post by TobyS » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:14 pm

Steven Bloodriver wrote:Through the use of the Future Super Dragon Balls, how would this big change have been dealt with in your personal opinion in the Future Trunks Saga of the Dragon Ball Super Manga if it had been implemented by the Successor of Akira Toriyama to have made a rather unique take in differentiating from the DBS Anime?
Steven Bloodriver wrote:Through the use of the Future Super Dragon Balls, how would this big change have been dealt with in your personal opinion in the Future Trunks Saga of the Dragon Ball Super Manga if it had been implemented by the Successor of Akira Toriyama to have made a rather unique take in differentiating from the DBS Anime?
There'd be no one to heal them after their fights with SS2 Trunks and they die the first time.

Anime only Vegeta probably kills his opponent when they follow Trunks to the present because he doesn't fuck around like Goku.
Manga wise Our Veggetto beats their Veggeto with mastered blue which the other doesn't have.
Yamcha almost certainly did not cheat on Bulma:
He was afraid of Women, Bulma was the flirty one.
Yamcha wanted to get married (it was his gonna be his wish)
He suggested they settle down in the Trunks saga.
Alternate future Trunks is not a reliable source.
Toriyama wanted new SSJ Kids and not make new characters.

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Re: Future Zamasu choosing to become Vegeta Black instead of gaining Immortality...

Post by Lionel » Tue Oct 23, 2018 4:24 pm

None of the self-imposed inadequacies of being the odd one out for lacking Saiyan genes would have existed. Vegeta Black does lack the psychic and magic abilities of Zamasu, though. The sensu beans which were destroyed should still be available for the group to use. Unless the Black duo are able to appropriate these sensu for personal use then they're not going to have the means for exploiting zenkais. Both of them are either going to be forced into retreating or they're both killed during the initial battle. I'm leaning towards the latter. Trunks is awkwardly showed up in a relatively uneventful one-sided beatdown. His healing abilities will have never been discovered in this arc.

Since the Dragon Balls on Earth are no longer usable and no one seems to want to attempt to reach New Namek, Trunks' world has become much bleaker as a result. It should still be relatively in-tact, but now Earth's population has dwindled down even more and the only close loved one Trunks has left is Mai (presuming that he doesn't keep in contact with Roshi or Popo). Good luck rebuilding after that. Does Trunks have the academic know-how to manage Capsule Corp or the time machine? The loss of Bulma could have far reaching implications for this timeline. If he doesn't brush up on the DB universe's physics behind time travel then the next catastrophe to reach his world could be the last as he won't have anyone else to help him.

Now for our heroes, Goku is going to end up having formed quite the gap between himself and Vegeta since I'm assuming he still discovers the completed blue state. Vegeta is going to have an even harder time catching up as a result. If he isn't made aware of the completed blue state by the time of the TOP's planning stages then the likelihood of him going into the actual event without it seem much higher. Goodness knows what that means for the tournament itself.

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Re: Future Zamasu choosing to become Vegeta Black instead of gaining Immortality...

Post by SupremeKai25 » Wed Oct 24, 2018 1:24 am

But why? Goku Black already ultimate strength. No one could stand against him. When he was setback, he always found a way to emerge stronger from his errors and grow in power even more. Black's possessed ultimate strength, that was enough. But what is ultimate strength, if you do not have the opportunity to unleash it? If you die instantly because you are too frail, ultimate strength will be to no avail. Hence why Future Zamasu wished for Immortality, to be the "shield" of Black, an immortal deity who would parry every single incoming attack, allowing Black to remain unscathed and safely unleash his overwhelming ultimate power.

Furthermore, Goku had personally humiliated and defeated Zamasu, showing him that he was not a supreme God, so he had a personal grudge against him. But Zamasu never interacted with Vegeta, in fact Black had never seen Vegeta before coming to the Present timeline.

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Re: Future Zamasu choosing to become Vegeta Black instead of gaining Immortality...

Post by Steven Bloodriver » Wed Oct 24, 2018 7:17 am

SupremeKai25 wrote:But why? Goku Black already ultimate strength. No one could stand against him. When he was setback, he always found a way to emerge stronger from his errors and grow in power even more. Black's possessed ultimate strength, that was enough. But what is ultimate strength, if you do not have the opportunity to unleash it? If you die instantly because you are too frail, ultimate strength will be to no avail. Hence why Future Zamasu wished for Immortality, to be the "shield" of Black, an immortal deity who would parry every single incoming attack, allowing Black to remain unscathed and safely unleash his overwhelming ultimate power.

Furthermore, Goku had personally humiliated and defeated Zamasu, showing him that he was not a supreme God, so he had a personal grudge against him. But Zamasu never interacted with Vegeta, in fact Black had never seen Vegeta before coming to the Present timeline.
SupremeKai25. Let us say Son Goku and Vegeta had went together with both Hakaishin Beerus and Whis to visit Present Zamasu and the Veteran Kaioshin known as Gowasu, how would YOU think things have played out if the very own father of the Time-Traveler known as Future Trunks had went and tagged along with the son of Bardock, the God of Destruction of Universe 7, and the Guide Angel of God of Destruction Beerus?

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