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What if the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai wasn’t interrupted?

Post by MasenkoHA » Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:23 pm

As we know the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai was interrupted while underway and half the competitors abandon the tournament for more urgent manners leading to a Battle Royale were Android 18 threw the match to Mr.Satan for double the prize money. But what if it hadn’t been interrupted? How do you think it would have panned out ?For a reminder.

1. Krillin vs Pintar. Winner: Krillin
2. Piccolo vs East Kaioshin Winner: East Kaioshin
3. Videl vs Spopovich Winner: Spopobich
4. Gohan vs Kibito Unfinished
5. 18 vs Mr. Satan
6. Goku vs Vegeta
7. Mighty Mask (secretly Goten and Trunks) vs Killa
8. Jewel vs Yamu

Here’s how I think it would have turned out

Gohan vs Kibito: Gohan would win

18 vs Mr. Satan: With no reason to throw the match 18 would bitch slap Mr. Satan off the plateau and take the victory

Goku vs. Vegeta: Goku would win

“Mighty Mask” vs Killa: “Mighty Mask” would win

Jewel vs Yamu. Yamu wins and bloodies up Jewel

Quarter Finals
Krillin vs East Kaioshin= East Kaioshin wins but unlike Piccolo Krillin doesn’t forfeit

Gohan vs Spopovich = Gohan wins after going Super Saiyan

18 vs Goku= Goku wins

“Mighty Mask” vs Yamu= Mighty Mask but the Z Warriors notice something off about golden light emanating from him

Semi-finals
Gohan vs East Kaioshin= Gohan wins

Goku vs “Mighty Mask”= Goku exposes the true idenity
of Mighty Mask and Goten and Trunks are disqualified. Goku wins by default

Finals
Goku vs Gohan= Gohan loses to Goku and Gohan realizes he needs to start training


ETA: Fixing typo meant Gohan loses not Goku oops
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Re: What if the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai wasn’t interrupted?

Post by Ssjcell » Thu Nov 22, 2018 2:48 pm

First off Gohan wouldn't need super say to beat spopovich base saiyans are probably well above semi perfect cell at this point
Same with goten and trunks I put their base forms at least at or above frieza level
And second off Goku beats Gohan although I suppose their base forms might not be that far off from each other and it would be funny to see them all ignore babidi's plans for the tournament

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Re: What if the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai wasn’t interrupted?

Post by TobyS » Thu Nov 22, 2018 4:19 pm

Theres no way base saiyans are semi cell level when bog base Goku was weaker than namek Freeza.

Kibito was stated to be a good match for base Gohan so he might be forced to transform to win.

18 kos Mr Satan. Forfeiting to him at this stage guarantees her nothing as he might lose later.

Goku beats vegeta either both in base or both in SS2 without Majin mark he's weaker in the same form.
They might both leave to have a better battle. Goku would entrust Gohan to win Chichi some prize money.

Mighty mask wins his and Yamu wins his match.

Shin beats Kuririn

Gohan owns spocovitch is base, probably has to ring him out because of hax regen weirdness.

18 wins on 3 conditions.
1. If Goku forfeited to run off with Vegeta,
2. If he fought vegeta in base and/or reverts to the base rule after breaking it for Geets.
3. Or if he doesn't heal after fighting Vegeta she might be able to beat his weakened state.

Mighty mask owns Yamu in Base by ring out.

Gohan beats Kaioshin if he's either willing to transform, or if Kaioshin bows out because he's seen enough of their power, and/or Gohan promises to help him after the tourney.

18 beats mask as in canon.

Gohan beats 18 if he's willing to go super or she agrees to split the money 50/50 he's willing willingness to lose in base.

Everyone goes home hapoy, Vegeta let's go of his grudge knowing he tried his best.

Goku and co. Hang out for the rest of the day, Goku shows them SS3 after explaining it'll use all his remaining time right at the end, Vegeta isn't as mad because he lost at the same level anyway.

Alternatively they all stomp Babidi together, Vegeta might not want to be majinised hours after losing even ifnjebjas a better chance.

Things go better because they probably have Yamcha and 18 with them to roshambo over minions so butterfly effect might mean they never see vegeta flip out and have the idea to possess him. Maybe vegeta stomped off and never gets invited to fight babidi in the first place.

Yamcha probably gets stoned instead of Piccolo and 18 and Piccolo can kill babidi while Gohan fights dabra.

Gohan his his mojo back a little more after a tourneys worth of fights, 3 ssj2s working together can probably beat Buu anyway. IMO.

Things just go the same or better basically.
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Re: What if the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai wasn’t interrupted?

Post by p-hyvo » Thu Nov 22, 2018 6:09 pm

[quote="MasenkoHA"]As we know the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai was interrupted while underway and half the competitors abandon the tournament for more urgent manners leading to a Battle Royale were Android 18 threw the match to Mr.Satan for double the prize money. But what if it hadn’t been interrupted? How do you think it would have panned out ?For a reminder.

1. Krillin vs Pintar. Winner: Krillin
2. Piccolo vs East Kaioshin Winner: East Kaioshin
3. Videl vs Spopovich Winner: Spopobich
4. Gohan vs Kibito Unfinished
5. 18 vs Mr. Satan
6. Goku vs Vegeta
7. Mighty Mask (secretly Goten and Trunks) vs Killa
8. Jewel vs Yamu

Gohan wins against kibito after an hard fight if it Is only base gohan

18 slaps satan

Goku not by much

Mighty mask

Yamu easily

quarter finals

Crillin vs shin = shin stomps

Gohan vs spopobitch = Gohan stomps and revenges videl

Goku vs 18 = goku wins no diff in base

Mighty mask vs yamu = mighty mask in base

Semi finals

Gohan vs shin = shin wins no diff against base Gohan

Goku vs mighty mask = goku easily wins and unmasks the kids

Final

Goku vs shin = goku wins, then revives the second place prize too from shin

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Re: What if the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai wasn’t interrupted?

Post by Ssjcell » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:11 pm

TobyS wrote:Theres no way base saiyans are semi cell level when bog base Goku was weaker than namek Freeza.

Kibito was stated to be a good match for base Gohan so he might be forced to transform to win.

18 kos Mr Satan. Forfeiting to him at this stage guarantees her nothing as he might lose later.

Goku beats vegeta either both in base or both in SS2 without Majin mark he's weaker in the same form.
They might both leave to have a better battle. Goku would entrust Gohan to win Chichi some prize money.

Mighty mask wins his and Yamu wins his match.

Shin beats Kuririn

Gohan owns spocovitch is base, probably has to ring him out because of hax regen weirdness.

18 wins on 3 conditions.
1. If Goku forfeited to run off with Vegeta,
2. If he fought vegeta in base and/or reverts to the base rule after breaking it for Geets.
3. Or if he doesn't heal after fighting Vegeta she might be able to beat his weakened state.

Mighty mask owns Yamu in Base by ring out.

Gohan beats Kaioshin if he's either willing to transform, or if Kaioshin bows out because he's seen enough of their power, and/or Gohan promises to help him after the tourney.

18 beats mask as in canon.

Gohan beats 18 if he's willing to go super or she agrees to split the money 50/50 he's willing willingness to lose in base.

Everyone goes home hapoy, Vegeta let's go of his grudge knowing he tried his best.

Goku and co. Hang out for the rest of the day, Goku shows them SS3 after explaining it'll use all his remaining time right at the end, Vegeta isn't as mad because he lost at the same level anyway.

Alternatively they all stomp Babidi together, Vegeta might not want to be majinised hours after losing even ifnjebjas a better chance.

Things go better because they probably have Yamcha and 18 with them to roshambo over minions so butterfly effect might mean they never see vegeta flip out and have the idea to possess him. Maybe vegeta stomped off and never gets invited to fight babidi in the first place.

Yamcha probably gets stoned instead of Piccolo and 18 and Piccolo can kill babidi while Gohan fights dabra.

Gohan his his mojo back a little more after a tourneys worth of fights, 3 ssj2s working together can probably beat Buu anyway. IMO.

Things just go the same or better basically.
Look I know beerus says that Goku is less than frieza but AT is for forgetfull and it inconsistent thats why he did that I hate to not be in universe but by cell games it's obvious base Saiyans are way above frieza

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:47 pm

There's nothing to stop Mr. Satan from bribing 18 again.
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Re: What if the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai wasn’t interrupted?

Post by p-hyvo » Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:20 am

Ssjcell wrote:
TobyS wrote:Theres no way base saiyans are semi cell level when bog base Goku was weaker than namek Freeza.

Kibito was stated to be a good match for base Gohan so he might be forced to transform to win.

18 kos Mr Satan. Forfeiting to him at this stage guarantees her nothing as he might lose later.

Goku beats vegeta either both in base or both in SS2 without Majin mark he's weaker in the same form.
They might both leave to have a better battle. Goku would entrust Gohan to win Chichi some prize money.

Mighty mask wins his and Yamu wins his match.

Shin beats Kuririn

Gohan owns spocovitch is base, probably has to ring him out because of hax regen weirdness.

18 wins on 3 conditions.
1. If Goku forfeited to run off with Vegeta,
2. If he fought vegeta in base and/or reverts to the base rule after breaking it for Geets.
3. Or if he doesn't heal after fighting Vegeta she might be able to beat his weakened state.

Mighty mask owns Yamu in Base by ring out.

Gohan beats Kaioshin if he's either willing to transform, or if Kaioshin bows out because he's seen enough of their power, and/or Gohan promises to help him after the tourney.

18 beats mask as in canon.

Gohan beats 18 if he's willing to go super or she agrees to split the money 50/50 he's willing willingness to lose in base.

Everyone goes home hapoy, Vegeta let's go of his grudge knowing he tried his best.

Goku and co. Hang out for the rest of the day, Goku shows them SS3 after explaining it'll use all his remaining time right at the end, Vegeta isn't as mad because he lost at the same level anyway.

Alternatively they all stomp Babidi together, Vegeta might not want to be majinised hours after losing even ifnjebjas a better chance.

Things go better because they probably have Yamcha and 18 with them to roshambo over minions so butterfly effect might mean they never see vegeta flip out and have the idea to possess him. Maybe vegeta stomped off and never gets invited to fight babidi in the first place.

Yamcha probably gets stoned instead of Piccolo and 18 and Piccolo can kill babidi while Gohan fights dabra.

Gohan his his mojo back a little more after a tourneys worth of fights, 3 ssj2s working together can probably beat Buu anyway. IMO.

Things just go the same or better basically.
Look I know beerus says that Goku is less than frieza but AT is for forgetfull and it inconsistent thats why he did that I hate to not be in universe but by cell games it's obvious base Saiyans are way above frieza
People often fails to know what power suppression is kek
He was training in that distance, he wasn't going all out. Plus, beerus is doubtful of goku beating freezer even after seeing ssj goku in that scene KEK

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Post by MasenkoHA » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:45 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:There's nothing to stop Mr. Satan from bribing 18 again.
He didn’t bribe her. SHE bribed him “Give me double the prize money and I’ll take a dive so you can keep your title and fame.” Given that there was no way she could have promised him that (even if she took a dive Goku or Vegeta would have knocked him out in the Quarterfinals) she would have no reason to offer him that incentive

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Ssjcell wrote:Look I know beerus says that Goku is less than frieza but AT is for forgetfull and it inconsistent thats why he did that I hate to not be in universe but by cell games it's obvious base Saiyans are way above frieza
Not really. It is left completely ambiguous where they stand compared to Freeza. Beerus clarified it for us, and it doesn't contradict anything. Any contentions usually have just boiled down to conjecture and speculation

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Post by Ssjcell » Fri Nov 23, 2018 10:50 pm

PFM18 wrote:Not really. It is left completely ambiguous where they stand compared to Freeza. Beerus clarified it for us, and it doesn't contradict anything. Any contentions usually have just boiled down to conjecture and speculation
Then how is a regular super saiyan Goku fighting cell number who is leagues above piccolo 17 and of course frieza . The difference of strength between cell and frieza is mind boggling probably way above 50 times stronger than frieza.

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Post by PFM18 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:12 am

Ssjcell wrote:
PFM18 wrote:Not really. It is left completely ambiguous where they stand compared to Freeza. Beerus clarified it for us, and it doesn't contradict anything. Any contentions usually have just boiled down to conjecture and speculation
Then how is a regular super saiyan Goku fighting cell number who is leagues above piccolo 17 and of course frieza . The difference of strength between cell and frieza is mind boggling probably way above 50 times stronger than frieza.
Uhhh what? I have no idea what you're saying in that first part

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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Nov 24, 2018 12:21 am

PFM18 wrote:
Ssjcell wrote:
PFM18 wrote:Not really. It is left completely ambiguous where they stand compared to Freeza. Beerus clarified it for us, and it doesn't contradict anything. Any contentions usually have just boiled down to conjecture and speculation
Then how is a regular super saiyan Goku fighting cell number who is leagues above piccolo 17 and of course frieza . The difference of strength between cell and frieza is mind boggling probably way above 50 times stronger than frieza.
Uhhh what? I have no idea what you're saying in that first part
It also annoys me when people come up with random multipliers like that. We have absolutely no way of knowing how much stronger Cell was than Freeza.
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Post by p-hyvo » Sat Nov 24, 2018 2:27 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
PFM18 wrote:
Ssjcell wrote: Then how is a regular super saiyan Goku fighting cell number who is leagues above piccolo 17 and of course frieza . The difference of strength between cell and frieza is mind boggling probably way above 50 times stronger than frieza.
Uhhh what? I have no idea what you're saying in that first part
It also annoys me when people come up with random multipliers like that. We have absolutely no way of knowing how much stronger Cell was than Freeza.

Be just grave a random multiplier to try guess How much, i don't think he literally means 50 times , even because it's like nothing and cellyil much more than x50 freezer imo

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Post by Darkprince410 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:49 am

Ssjcell wrote:
Look I know beerus says that Goku is less than frieza but AT is for forgetfull and it inconsistent thats why he did that I hate to not be in universe but by cell games it's obvious base Saiyans are way above frieza
There's nothing during the Cell arc or beyond that makes it "obvious" that the base Saiyans are above Freeza, even the common "facts" people bring up during the Buu arc regarding Pui Pui and Kaioushin.
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People often fails to know what power suppression is kek
He was training in that distance, he wasn't going all out. Plus, beerus is doubtful of goku beating freezer even after seeing ssj goku in that scene KEK
He's not doubtful at all about Goku's ability to beat Freeza after going Super Saiyan though. He readily indicates that he understands why Goku was able to beat him, but then later states that it's basically the best he could see Goku being able to do at that level, which just means that, out of all the powerful individuals that Beerus knew, Goku was strong enough to take out Freeza, but no one higher.
Beerus: “You’re pretty good. I can see how you managed to defeat Freeza. But if this is all you’ve got, defeating Freeza would probably be the best you’re capable of.”
It's only bad fan-subs that ever had Beerus indicating that Goku would have had trouble or couldn't have beaten Freeza while transformed.

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Post by Bebi Hatchiyack » Sat Nov 24, 2018 9:21 am

Here is how I see things remember Dragon Ball is something who play with humour.

1. Kuririn vs Pintar. Winner: Kuririn
2. Piccolo vs East Kaioshin Winner: East Kaioshin
3. Videl vs Spopovich Winner: Spopovich
4. Gohan vs Kibito Winner: Gohan by not much in base.
5. 18 vs Mr. Satan Winner: Mr. Satan by 18 bribing him.
6. Goku vs Vegeta Winner: Goku by not much in base.
7. Mighty Mask (secretly Goten and Trunks) vs Killa Winner: Mighty Mask
8. Jewel vs Yamu Winner: Yamu.

Quarter final is as follow:

1. Kuririn vs Eash Kaioshin Winner: East Kaioshin
2. Gohan vs Spopovich: Gohan in base
3. Mr Satan vs Goku: Mr Satan win after being aware of 18 Bribing benefiting all Z-Warrior.
4. Mighty Mask vs Yamu: Mighty Mask win

Demi Final is as follow:

1. Gohan vs East Kaioshin: Gohan win yet again not by much
2. Mighty Mask vs Mr. Satan: Mighty Mask win but the kids are being over joyous and are being exposed thus they are being disqualified so Mr. Satan win by default

Final is as follow:

1. Gohan vs Mr. Satan: Mr. Satan win but he need to pay everyone a certain amount of money lol

:lol: If written by Toriyama I would have seen something like that with a good amount of jokes around that.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:43 am

Bebi Hatchiyack wrote:Here is how I see things remember Dragon Ball is something who play with humour.

1. Kuririn vs Pintar. Winner: Kuririn
2. Piccolo vs East Kaioshin Winner: East Kaioshin
3. Videl vs Spopovich Winner: Spopovich
4. Gohan vs Kibito Winner: Gohan by not much in base.
5. 18 vs Mr. Satan Winner: Mr. Satan by 18 bribing him.
6. Goku vs Vegeta Winner: Goku by not much in base.
7. Mighty Mask (secretly Goten and Trunks) vs Killa Winner: Mighty Mask
8. Jewel vs Yamu Winner: Yamu.

Quarter final is as follow:

1. Kuririn vs Eash Kaioshin Winner: East Kaioshin
2. Gohan vs Spopovich: Gohan in base
3. Mr Satan vs Goku: Mr Satan win after being aware of 18 Bribing benefiting all Z-Warrior.
4. Mighty Mask vs Yamu: Mighty Mask win

Demi Final is as follow:

1. Gohan vs East Kaioshin: Gohan win yet again not by much
2. Mighty Mask vs Mr. Satan: Mighty Mask win but the kids are being over joyous and are being exposed thus they are being disqualified so Mr. Satan win by default

Final is as follow:

1. Gohan vs Mr. Satan: Mr. Satan win but he need to pay everyone a certain amount of money lol

:lol: If written by Toriyama I would have seen something like that with a good amount of jokes around that.
This is probably how it would happen.
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Post by PFM18 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:39 pm

If the Saiyans end up not using SSJ, then Kaioshin wins. If they do use SSJ, then Goku wins.

Or in reality Satan would still win by bribing whoever he is up against.

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Post by dario03 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:36 pm

PFM18 wrote:If the Saiyans end up not using SSJ, then Kaioshin wins. If they do use SSJ, then Goku wins.

Or in reality Satan would still win by bribing whoever he is up against.
They never banned Kaio-Ken which might be enough to beat Kaioshin. Was actually always something I found odd when they came up with the no SS rule.

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Post by PFM18 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:41 pm

dario03 wrote:
PFM18 wrote:If the Saiyans end up not using SSJ, then Kaioshin wins. If they do use SSJ, then Goku wins.

Or in reality Satan would still win by bribing whoever he is up against.
They never banned Kaio-Ken which might be enough to beat Kaioshin. Was actually always something I found odd when they came up with the no SS rule.
Yeah that's a really good point. Although I question if Goku cares enough about the outcome of this tournament at that stage in his life to use Kaioken.

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Post by dario03 » Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:49 pm

PFM18 wrote:
dario03 wrote:
PFM18 wrote:If the Saiyans end up not using SSJ, then Kaioshin wins. If they do use SSJ, then Goku wins.

Or in reality Satan would still win by bribing whoever he is up against.
They never banned Kaio-Ken which might be enough to beat Kaioshin. Was actually always something I found odd when they came up with the no SS rule.
Yeah that's a really good point. Although I question if Goku cares enough about the outcome of this tournament at that stage in his life to use Kaioken.
He likes having good fights. Also KK shouldn't be a big deal for him at that point unless he has to go with a very high level of it.

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